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Post by impulse on Oct 27, 2023 5:55:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw that news yesterday, too. I figured it would happen eventually as it nearly always does with these legacy groups, but this one seemed out of nowhere. I feel bad for Mangini, but with his talent I'm sure he'll land somewhere.
I've never been huge into DT or prog metal in general, but they have their moments, and from what I've read, DT fans are just as happy, if not more so, for Portnoy's arrangement and songwriting direction as drumming as he was apparently the glue and driving force there.
I tell you what. I probably wouldn't have listened to any new Dream Theater, but now I will probably check out the first one they do with him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 21:32:47 GMT -5
This came out in 2000, but I only discovered it a few years ago. How did a duet between Halford and Dickinson not make world-wide headline news? Human society baffles me.
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Post by impulse on Nov 1, 2023 23:22:52 GMT -5
This came out in 2000, but I only discovered it a few years ago. How did a duet between Halford and Dickinson not make world-wide headline news? Human society baffles me. Did you hear that when it came out they got fined? They violated the international standard for how much leather is allowed to be in one room. It was so much leather. PETA had a FIT.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 23:45:47 GMT -5
This came out in 2000, but I only discovered it a few years ago. How did a duet between Halford and Dickinson not make world-wide headline news? Human society baffles me. Did you hear that when it came out they got fined? They violated the international standard for how much leather is allowed to be in one room. It was so much leather. PETA had a FIT. I explained to my daughter the other day about the origins of leather in the metal aesthetic - Rob Halford bringing it in from '70s gay culture (I'm not sure if it's a proven fact, but it scans). She will always humor me in my ramblings, but this seemed to be a genuine revelation for her - "That explains so much!" Add to this that I learned my pop-music-only, metal-disinterested wife can identify Sabbath Bloody Sabbath right away, and I'm seeing that my efforts to bring culture to this family are paying off more than I realized. They should keep these things to themselves. It only encourages me. I refrained from insisting my wife play "Name that metal tune" with me, but if she demonstrates any more acumen in the subject, she might regret it. |
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Post by impulse on Nov 2, 2023 13:26:57 GMT -5
Good for keeping the true education going across generations. My wife isn't into metal, but she appreciates some of the vocalists and is a singer herself with some opera experience. To tie in with the weather getting colder, she put in Nightwish. I need to explore them more, but my general process went the same.
Which is to say I enjoyed for a while, but it wasn't heavy enough, so after she was done listening with me, I switched to Nevermore and Symphony X. Close enough but with 30% more metal for free!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2023 17:39:56 GMT -5
Which is to say I enjoyed for a while, but it wasn't heavy enough, so after she was done listening with me, I switched to Nevermore and Symphony X. Close enough but with 30% more metal for free! I was just listening to Michael Romeo's Dark Chapter album, still love that as the "prototype" for Symphony X. I know Michael looks at it as more of a demo, but honestly it beats the first Symphony X album for me, maybe even the second even though Russell Allen was on board by that point. From the 3rd Symphony X album on though, just incredible. One of my all-time favorite bands and guitar players (and inspirations at that). I'm sure I've told this story before, but Symphony X and Nevermore were my dream ticket for a concert, and it was supposed to happen for me at the Best Buy Theatre in NYC in 2011. Less than 2 weeks before the show, Nevermore dropped off the tour and then broke up. And then with Warrel passing, tragically the hope for a reunion was lost. Still crushed to this day that show never happened.  |
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Post by impulse on Nov 3, 2023 8:29:30 GMT -5
Which is to say I enjoyed for a while, but it wasn't heavy enough, so after she was done listening with me, I switched to Nevermore and Symphony X. Close enough but with 30% more metal for free! I was just listening to Michael Romeo's Dark Chapter album, still love that as the "prototype" for Symphony X. I know Michael looks at it as more of a demo, but honestly it beats the first Symphony X album for me, maybe even the second even though Russell Allen was on board by that point. From the 3rd Symphony X album on though, just incredible. One of my all-time favorite bands and guitar players (and inspirations at that). I'm sure I've told this story before, but Symphony X and Nevermore were my dream ticket for a concert, and it was supposed to happen for me at the Best Buy Theatre in NYC in 2011. Less than 2 weeks before the show, Nevermore dropped off the tour and then broke up. And then with Warrel passing, tragically the hope for a reunion was lost. Still crushed to this day that show never happened. Man, what a loss. I'm sorry to hear that, and that would have been one hell of a show. Similar story but not quite bucket list, more dead-on theming and checking off a checklist from my youth. I was going with some friends to see Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie on Halloween weekend before we had kids. Could not have planned a better ticket. It was an outdoor show. A storm was coming through and it was too windy to be safe, so they cancelled it. We pity drank in the bar instead, but it was pretty upsetting. Knowing what I know now, though, Manson would probably have been a dud by then. He was already way too deep into his drugged and washed up phase. Still, it sucked at the time. I had a similar near miss. Megadeth came through when I was into the band, but I skipped since I had no one to go with. Then Dave messed up his arm and they disbanded. They've obviously gotten back together since and I've seen them several times, thankfully. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2023 8:42:38 GMT -5
I was just listening to Michael Romeo's Dark Chapter album, still love that as the "prototype" for Symphony X. I know Michael looks at it as more of a demo, but honestly it beats the first Symphony X album for me, maybe even the second even though Russell Allen was on board by that point. From the 3rd Symphony X album on though, just incredible. One of my all-time favorite bands and guitar players (and inspirations at that). I'm sure I've told this story before, but Symphony X and Nevermore were my dream ticket for a concert, and it was supposed to happen for me at the Best Buy Theatre in NYC in 2011. Less than 2 weeks before the show, Nevermore dropped off the tour and then broke up. And then with Warrel passing, tragically the hope for a reunion was lost. Still crushed to this day that show never happened. Man, what a loss. I'm sorry to hear that, and that would have been one hell of a show. Similar story but not quite bucket list, more dead-on theming and checking off a checklist from my youth. I was going with some friends to see Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie on Halloween weekend before we had kids. Could not have planned a better ticket. It was an outdoor show. A storm was coming through and it was too windy to be safe, so they cancelled it. We pity drank in the bar instead, but it was pretty upsetting. Knowing what I know now, though, Manson would probably have been a dud by then. He was already way too deep into his drugged and washed up phase. Still, it sucked at the time. I had a similar near miss. Megadeth came through when I was into the band, but I skipped since I had no one to go with. Then Dave messed up his arm and they disbanded. They've obviously gotten back together since and I've seen them several times, thankfully. Aw man, that's a bummer as well, especially being Halloween weekend! And yeah, I think we were all thinking Megadeth was done for at that point, the arm thing sounded really serious. Nothing can keep Megadave down!! That reminds me back in the 80's when Yngwie Malmsteen got in a really bad car accident, not only was he in a coma for like a week but he got nerve damage in his picking hand. He had to "re-learn" a lot, and when you think of how technical his playing is, it's really amazing he recovered to the level he did. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2023 8:47:10 GMT -5
My sob story is missing Motorhead in the mid-90s. They were the second act before the headliner Sabbath came on. We had an extra ticket (the guy who it was intended for was caught embezzling and had to skip town). The day of, the rest of our group was determined to find someone to take his place. The search took too long, so we missed Morbid Angel (who?) and Motorhead. It was a small venue (the vocalist was Tony Martin, so "Sabbath" didn't draw Sabbath-size crowds), and I was thrilled to be so close to Tony and Geezer. Wish I could say the same for Motorhead. Oh well, I caught them later with Dio and Maiden.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2023 8:52:51 GMT -5
Speaking of Nevermore, I was tracking down the other works of some ex-Megadeth guitarists (thanks impulse) and came across Nevermore. Not too much grabbed me, though. "The Final Product", "The Learning", and "I am The Dog" made it to my playlist. What else do they have that is guitar-highlighting? The vocalist doesn't do anything for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2023 8:54:30 GMT -5
My sob story is missing Motorhead in the mid-90s. They were the second act before the headliner Sabbath came on. We had an extra ticket (the guy who it was intended for was caught embezzling and had to skip town). The day of, the rest of our group was determined to find someone to take his place. The search took too long, so we missed Morbid Angel (who?) and Motorhead. It was a small venue (the vocalist was Tony Martin, so "Sabbath" didn't draw Sabbath-size crowds), and I was thrilled to be so close to Tony and Geezer. Wish I could say the same for Motorhead. Oh well, I caught them later with Dio and Maiden. That's a bummer for sure But seeing them with Dio and Maiden sounds like a heck of a consolation prize! That's a great ticket too. Back on Sabbath, Tony Martin era is so underrated. Not only a fine vocalist, but Iommi was cranking out some really good material during that time, something I wish I had discovered much sooner. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2023 8:56:06 GMT -5
Speaking of Nevermore, I was tracking down the other works of some ex-Megadeth guitarists (thanks impulse ) and came across Nevermore. Not too much grabbed me, though. "The Final Product", "The Learning", and "I am The Dog" made it to my playlist. What else do they have that is guitar-highlighting? The vocalist doesn't do anything for me. Try "Narcosynthesis". I could recommend plenty more, but if that one doesn't do it for you, Nevermore may not be fully your cup of tea! |
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Post by impulse on Nov 3, 2023 9:26:48 GMT -5
Speaking of Nevermore, I was tracking down the other works of some ex-Megadeth guitarists (thanks impulse ) and came across Nevermore. Not too much grabbed me, though. "The Final Product", "The Learning", and "I am The Dog" made it to my playlist. What else do they have that is guitar-highlighting? The vocalist doesn't do anything for me. Try "Narcosynthesis". I could recommend plenty more, but if that one doesn't do it for you, Nevermore may not be fully your cup of tea! You took the words out of my mouth. Narcosynthesis the song in particular, and if you like it, the rest of the album. That was my gateway to them. |
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Post by impulse on Nov 3, 2023 9:35:37 GMT -5
Speaking of Nevermore, I was tracking down the other works of some ex-Megadeth guitarists (thanks impulse) and came across Nevermore. Not too much grabbed me, though. "The Final Product", "The Learning", and "I am The Dog" made it to my playlist. What else do they have that is guitar-highlighting? The vocalist doesn't do anything for me. Good man. You might also like Chris Poland's Metalopolis album, Marty Friedman's solo album Dragon's Kiss and his project with Jason Becker, Cacaphony. Pure 80s shred goodness. His album Music for Speeding might be up your alley, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2023 9:59:23 GMT -5
My sob story is missing Motorhead in the mid-90s. They were the second act before the headliner Sabbath came on. We had an extra ticket (the guy who it was intended for was caught embezzling and had to skip town). The day of, the rest of our group was determined to find someone to take his place. The search took too long, so we missed Morbid Angel (who?) and Motorhead. It was a small venue (the vocalist was Tony Martin, so "Sabbath" didn't draw Sabbath-size crowds), and I was thrilled to be so close to Tony and Geezer. Wish I could say the same for Motorhead. Oh well, I caught them later with Dio and Maiden. That's a bummer for sure But seeing them with Dio and Maiden sounds like a heck of a consolation prize! That's a great ticket too. Back on Sabbath, Tony Martin era is so underrated. Not only a fine vocalist, but Iommi was cranking out some really good material during that time, something I wish I had discovered much sooner. I've heard Martin called Dio-lite, but I don't think that's fair. That's some huge shoes to fill, and he was fine. You can't knock a guy for not being Dio (or Ozzy, or Gillan) There were some poopy-heads chanting "Dio! Dio!" at the show. Reminds me of the stories of the audience chanting "Ozzy! Ozzy!" on the Heaven And Hell tour. |
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