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Post by hondobrode on Nov 15, 2014 23:36:27 GMT -5
And of course as I've complained before, Ambien has about as much effect on me as lemon drops, & for quite awhile there I was having hideous sleep problems. Glad it works for you, though, hondo. I've got the full 10 mgs and take mine with booze, but not in any kind of Hollywood way. Not recommending that for anyone else mind you. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 23:54:42 GMT -5
Back then -- circa 1998-2000 -- I was trying just about anything to lull myself to sleep ... Ambien (no idea what strength I was prescribed), Valerian root, St. John's Wort, alcohol (I could drink back then, though I never had a taste for the hard stuff), etc. Would sleep OK for about an hour, then jolt awake & be unable to get back to sleep. Even gave up caffeine (not that I drink much now -- the equivalent of about one cup of coffee in the morning 95 percent of the time) for a couple of years.
Got to the point that I was coming thisclose to nodding off at my desk at work. Not good.
Finally got put on an antidepressant, Trazodone, for its off-label sleep-assisting properties, & that worked pretty OK. Had to discontinue it, though, when I was put on a different type of antidepressant a year or so later. It's always something ...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 23:57:32 GMT -5
Back then -- circa 1998-2000 -- I was trying just about anything to lull myself to sleep ... Ambien (no idea what strength I was prescribed), Valerian root, St. John's Wort, alcohol (I could drink back then, though I never had a taste for the hard stuff), etc. Would sleep OK for about an hour, then jolt awake & be unable to get back to sleep. Even gave up caffeine (not that I drink much now -- the equivalent of about one cup of coffee in the morning 95 percent of the time) for a couple of years. Got to the point that I was coming thisclose to nodding off at my desk at work. Not good. Finally got put on an antidepressant, Trazodone, for its off-label sleep-assisting properties, & that worked pretty OK. Had to discontinue it, though, when I was put on a different type of antidepressant a year or so later. It's always something ... If I had known you then I could have sent you a copy of my master's thesis tracing the development of medieval banking back from the Templars to its origins to read...it's a sure cure for insomnia  -M |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 0:00:37 GMT -5
Bah! Sleeping is for cowards.
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 16, 2014 0:06:15 GMT -5
So speaketh the young.
I used to get by on 4-6 hours or sleep.
I hate it, but I require 8 hours minimum now and sometimes more.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 0:08:58 GMT -5
When in college I used to say sleep is for the weak and sickly..well now I am the weak and sickly so let me sleep darn it all....
-M
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 0:13:18 GMT -5
Bah! Sleeping is for cowards. Not with the dreams/nightmares I have, bud. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 8:32:17 GMT -5
And what's so good about it? *grumble grumble grumble*
In light of my post right before this, I had a really worrying dream about being arrested twice in three days for some absurdly trumped-up reasons, with at least a day behind bars pretty much assured in light of the second time, & I couldn't get my lawyer (a guy I knew IRL in Little Rock, though now I can't remember who it was) on the phone. I was a kid in my early 20s in the dream, & my mother had just been packed off to the mental hospital in Little Rock (as actually did happen IRL at least, I believe, 3 times from my mid-teens through my early 20s), & I was also infiltrating a cadre of young fascists who would've warmed the cockles of Steve Ditko's heart, & IRL during all this I was cold as hell (note to self: the comforter alone ain't getting it done), too much so to make my way the 10 feet or so to the bathroom to take my bedtime meds, & ...
Yeah. Good morning, anyway. Hope the night was infinitely better for everyone else.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 16, 2014 8:33:19 GMT -5
Back then -- circa 1998-2000 -- I was trying just about anything to lull myself to sleep ... Ambien (no idea what strength I was prescribed), Valerian root, St. John's Wort, alcohol (I could drink back then, though I never had a taste for the hard stuff), etc. Would sleep OK for about an hour, then jolt awake & be unable to get back to sleep. Even gave up caffeine (not that I drink much now -- the equivalent of about one cup of coffee in the morning 95 percent of the time) for a couple of years. Got to the point that I was coming thisclose to nodding off at my desk at work. Not good. Finally got put on an antidepressant, Trazodone, for its off-label sleep-assisting properties, & that worked pretty OK. Had to discontinue it, though, when I was put on a different type of antidepressant a year or so later. It's always something ... I can't get to sleep anymore without help, usually alcohol, as it's already a habit and probably a good reason why I drink each night. I'll take melatonin with a small amount if alcohol or if I have no alcohol. But once I'm asleep I'm usually good for the night. I've tried trazodone when I worked nights back in late '11 and early '12 and that __it knocks me out worse than a 12 pack of beer or bottle of wine. Do not care for it. Even taking a 1/4 of a pill will help me get to sleep but I still feel drugged in the morning. As I've said my body has never done well with pills. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 8:39:20 GMT -5
And what's so good about it? *grumble grumble grumble* In light of my post right before this, I had a really worrying dream about being arrested twice in three days for some absurdly trumped-up reasons, with at least a day behind bars pretty much assured in light of the second time, & I couldn't get my lawyer (a guy I knew IRL in Little Rock, though now I can't remember who it was) on the phone. I was a kid in my early 20s in the dream, & my mother had just been packed off to the mental hospital in Little Rock (as actually did happen IRL at least, I believe, 3 times from my mid-teens through my early 20s), & I was also infiltrating a cadre of young fascists who would've warmed the cockles of Steve Ditko's heart, & IRL during all this I was cold as hell (note to self: the comforter alone ain't getting it done), too much so to make my way the 10 feet or so to the bathroom to take my bedtime meds, & ... Yeah. Good morning, anyway. Hope the night was infinitely better for everyone else. And I thought my nightmare of ghostly demons grabbing me with their long, dead, bony hands and fingers from under the bed, was a scary nightmare to have the other night.  I'm sorry you had such an awful nightmare (not that ANY nightmare isn't awful, but.). Do you eat before bed? Sometimes I find that if I wake up in the middle of the night and my brain stays awake too long, and THEN I fall back asleep, that is when I have the most vivid dreams/nightmares. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 16, 2014 8:39:46 GMT -5
And what's so good about it? *grumble grumble grumble* In light of my post right before this, I had a really worrying dream about being arrested twice in three days for some absurdly trumped-up reasons, with at least a day behind bars pretty much assured in light of the second time, & I couldn't get my lawyer (a guy I knew IRL in Little Rock, though now I can't remember who it was) on the phone. I was a kid in my early 20s in the dream, & my mother had just been packed off to the mental hospital in Little Rock (as actually did happen IRL at least, I believe, 3 times from my mid-teens through my early 20s), & I was also infiltrating a cadre of young fascists who would've warmed the cockles of Steve Ditko's heart, & IRL during all this I was cold as hell (note to self: the comforter alone ain't getting it done), too much so to make my way the 10 feet or so to the bathroom to take my bedtime meds, & ... Yeah. Good morning, anyway. Hope the night was infinitely better for everyone else. I had a nightmare Friday night/ Saturday morning that woke up my wife cause I audibly screamed out right before I myself woke up. Dolls with faces like Bava's dead ( Black Sabbath) reaching for me with creepy little doll hands and they're evil faces closing in on me. Moving/talking dolls/stuffed animals creep me out (when that's the intention not like Toy Story, though the third movie was boderline evil) really bad. My wife left me alone in the bed to get me a pain pill and a scooted (in pain) to as much of the center of the bed I could. I could just see their little fingers appearing at the edges of the bed. Felt like a five year old not a grown man then. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 8:41:35 GMT -5
Did someone say "drugged"? Lysergically wishing everyone ...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 8:49:49 GMT -5
I'm sorry you had such an awful nightmare (not that ANY nightmare isn't awful, but.). Do you eat before bed? Sometimes I find that if I wake up in the middle of the night and my brain stays awake too long, and THEN I fall back asleep, that is when I have the most vivid dreams/nightmares. I rarely eat before bed. I don't think I ate anything after about 1 p.m. yesterday, in fact -- just wasn't hungry. Actually, I really enjoy (at least in hindsight, after I wake up) my nightmares that feature scenarios straight from horror movies, like what you & adam describe above. But the ones that are too close to reality, like last night ... no. No, thank you. And then there are the dreams that contain echoes & references to other, previous dreams, not to mention the dreams in which I'm telling someone about something I'd dreamed that same night, & at least a couple of times in which I'm telling someone about my dream of telling someone about something I'd dreamed earlier that night ... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 8:56:07 GMT -5
I'm sorry you had such an awful nightmare (not that ANY nightmare isn't awful, but.). Do you eat before bed? Sometimes I find that if I wake up in the middle of the night and my brain stays awake too long, and THEN I fall back asleep, that is when I have the most vivid dreams/nightmares. I rarely eat before bed. I don't think I ate anything after about 1 p.m. yesterday, in fact -- just wasn't hungry. Actually, I really enjoy (at least in hindsight, after I wake up) my nightmares that feature scenarios straight from horror movies, like what you & adam describe above. But the ones that are too close to reality, like last night ... no. No, thank you. And then there are the dreams that contain echoes & references to other, previous dreams, not to mention the dreams in which I'm telling someone about something I'd dreamed that same night, & at least a couple of times in which I'm telling someone about my dream of telling someone about something I'd dreamed earlier that night ... That is a LOT of brain activity. Wow! Do you have the dreams where you are doing whatever in the dream, but you either make note to someone in the dream about a limited amount of time for the dream to continue because your alarm is going to go off, or you just make that note to yourself in the dream? Because I have done that. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 16, 2014 9:01:57 GMT -5
When will then be now and when can I post in this thread and not be off topic...inquiring minds want to know...my definition of morning is just after I wake up no matter what time the clock says... -M I just caught this post reading through the thread and when I worked nights I found that people are easily conformed to what they are told. Especially if say I didn't plan well and had no beer at home when I get off from working all night and would stop at the connivence store by my job then and buy some. Yeah people are always quick to assume because I'm fairly sure at the core the human race is all demons trying to escape these meat bags they're in. Anyway I also came to this conclusion too at the revelation that most people (the day crew) just assumed I went home and slept and then got up hours before work. I had to ask, when you go home at 5pm do you go to sleep for 8 hours and then get up at 2am when you don't have to go to work till 7am? |
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