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Post by badwolf on Nov 26, 2014 17:32:08 GMT -5
Yeah, Sentry should have "returned" to obscurity after his miniseries.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 17:41:30 GMT -5
The Vision was amazing in Avengers, particularly for his romance with Wanda. Yes, YES, YESSSSSSSSSSSS. Take, THAT, FuzzyBlueElf! Vision and Wanda, together, are amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 18:03:00 GMT -5
Yes, YES, YESSSSSSSSSSSS. I'll have what she's having!
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Post by fuzzyblueelf on Nov 26, 2014 18:11:27 GMT -5
The Vision was amazing in Avengers, particularly for his romance with Wanda. Yes, YES, YESSSSSSSSSSSS. Take, THAT, FuzzyBlueElf! Vision and Wanda, together, are amazing. Here's the best use of Simon's clone: I would hate this character a lot less if he wasn't an allegory for POC because that is a stupid ass comparison.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 5, 2016 9:32:52 GMT -5
Green Lantern also bores me. Ditto for Aquaman. Over at Marvel, I would have to say that the Hulk is the most boring for me. Hulk smash. Again, I am more about him if he is making a cameo or appears for part of a story. Hulk hasn't been , Hulk Smash in 30 years.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 5, 2016 9:40:23 GMT -5
As I recall, the story was even conceived without doppelgängers, using the actual Charlton heroes. DC then decided they wanted to use those heroes (the rights for which they had bought) for something else… and so Captain Atom became Dr. Manhattan, Blue Beetle Night Owl and so on. Kind of. Moore actually started working out Watchmen with the MLJ heroes, The Mighty Crusaders, in mind. Obviously they weren't available and this was still at the initial idea gestation phase. Then DC bought the Charlton heroes as a gift for Dick Giordano and they were worked into the plot. However, Dick didn't want his toys messed up so Moore created the dopplegangers. This is per Moore's interview with John B. Cooke in Comic Book Artist #9. And I'll go ahead and be pedantic (not toward you, Ben) and point out that The Watchmen aren't characters. That name never existed as a team. It's the name of the book. Using there Charlton Heroes would have been the best thing to ever happen to them. Giordano dropped the ball.
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Post by coke & comics on Mar 5, 2016 15:10:57 GMT -5
It's tempting to quote dozens of people in this thread just to disagree, but who has the time.
So many awesome characters described as boring.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 5, 2016 17:18:03 GMT -5
This guy from Eclipse Comics. Even though he looks like me
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 6, 2016 3:00:52 GMT -5
It's tempting to quote dozens of people in this thread just to disagree, but who has the time. So many awesome characters described as boring. It is quite depressing.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 6, 2016 7:18:10 GMT -5
It's just a subject like any other in this forum. Not that serious.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Mar 6, 2016 15:55:27 GMT -5
Green Lantern also bores me. Ditto for Aquaman. Over at Marvel, I would have to say that the Hulk is the most boring for me. Hulk smash. Again, I am more about him if he is making a cameo or appears for part of a story. Hulk hasn't been , Hulk Smash in 30 years.
Well that's the time period I collect so makes sense why everything I have tried was Hulk Smash. I enjoyed World War Hulk...it was essentially still Hulk Smash but better written. I am sure there are good stories and perhaps my generalization is based on the Hulk of the 60's and 70's. If the 80's on are better, I am sure one day I will try to get into it. As it stands, there are just so many other characters from the 60's and 70's that I do love and enjoy reading so that is where I focus my collecting.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 6, 2016 17:28:53 GMT -5
It's funny, but I grew up with the Hulk smash version too and I keep waiting for that one to return. After the Movie they placed him in the Avengers book and he stopped being the Hulk to me.
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Post by dupersuper on Mar 8, 2016 6:21:10 GMT -5
Kind of. Moore actually started working out Watchmen with the MLJ heroes, The Mighty Crusaders, in mind. Obviously they weren't available and this was still at the initial idea gestation phase. Then DC bought the Charlton heroes as a gift for Dick Giordano and they were worked into the plot. However, Dick didn't want his toys messed up so Moore created the dopplegangers. This is per Moore's interview with John B. Cooke in Comic Book Artist #9. And I'll go ahead and be pedantic (not toward you, Ben) and point out that The Watchmen aren't characters. That name never existed as a team. It's the name of the book. Using there Charlton Heroes would have been the best thing to ever happen to them. Giordano dropped the ball. It depends what's more important to you. It may have been good for those characters, but I prefer the story as is.
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Post by foxley on Mar 8, 2016 7:18:57 GMT -5
If Moore had been allowed to use the Charlton characters, we never would have got Denny O'Neil/Denys Cowan's amazing Question series, and that would have been a tragedy. I think Giordano made the right call.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 8, 2016 23:49:39 GMT -5
Little Dot- She liked dots. She thought of dots, wore dots, fixated on dots.Dots all. Just dots.Lasted about 33 years. Dots a long time.226 issues in 2 separate series. Dots a long box worth. One joke. Dots boring
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