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Post by commond on Nov 12, 2023 21:13:11 GMT -5
If I’m not mistaken, The Pitt and The Draft were released while the ongoing titles were still being published. The War was published after the regular books were cancelled.
Speaking of cancellations, I forgot to mention that Ditko’s Speedball only made it to issue #10. I believe that was the first of the new line of books to meet its maker.
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Post by commond on Nov 13, 2023 17:36:21 GMT -5
September 1989
All of the main books cost a buck now.
Uncanny X-Men is penciled by Jim Lee. This issue blew me away as a kid. I thought Lee was unbelievable. I liked Silvestri, but I definitely wasn't sad when Lee returned for Acts of Vengeance and took over as the regular penciler with Silvestri moving to Wolverine. What I didn't realize at the time was that this was the beginning of the end for Claremont. Looking at the art, I think it holds up. I've been exposed to a lot more comic book art since then, but it still strikes me as solid monthly superhero art.
Wolverine gets a Saga book this month, so you can catch up on his entire history and Marvel can have an excuse to publish yet another Wolverine book. These Saga books were quite useful to me as a kid as a new fan who had a lot to learn. The price tag was a bit hefty, though, and I may have spent more time skimming through them at the store than purchasing the things.
There's another Punisher graphic novel, this time by Baron and Reinhold. I quite liked their pairing on the regular series, so there might be some merit to the graphic novel other than Marvel having half a dozen books on the shelves to coincide with the film release that wasn't. They're pushing Punisher so hard they're even doing separate reprint mags in the US and the UK. Marvel originally solicited the first issue of the Punisher mag as an adaptation of the film by Carl Potts and Brent Anderson, but that wouldn't be released until 1990.
Captain America goes bi-weekly over the summer, which I'm not sure the sales called for (perhaps it was an effort to drum up sales on the book?) It did introduce us to probably the coolest new character of the year, Crossbones. I wish the Captain America/Diamondback relationship had lasted longer, as that was one of the more interesting things happening in Marvel at the time.
There's yet another new title out -- Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. -- with Quasar on the way the following month.
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Post by spoon on Nov 13, 2023 20:39:06 GMT -5
September 1989All of the main books cost a buck now. Uncanny X-Men is penciled by Jim Lee. This issue blew me away as a kid. I thought Lee was unbelievable. I liked Silvestri, but I definitely wasn't sad when Lee returned for Acts of Vengeance and took over as the regular penciler with Silvestri moving to Wolverine. What I didn't realize at the time was that this was the beginning of the end for Claremont. Looking at the art, I think it holds up. I've been exposed to a lot more comic book art since then, but it still strikes me as solid monthly superhero art. Although I think as I kid I bought most of my comics from comic book shops, I distinctly remember my twin brother bought Uncanny X-Men #248 when we were at the supermarket. I was so blown away by Lee's art and the story. Not too long after (maybe the supermarkets comics were a little older), I went to a comic book stall and picked up Uncanny #249, 250, 251. Though the art was by Silvestri rather than Lee, I was really caught up in the story. This was when I actually began buying X-Men pretty often. My twin brother was more of the Wolverine fan, so I think he was the one who bought this. But he bought all 4 issues, and I read them a lot. This was another big factor in getting me interested in X-Men. Even though Wolverine was the focus, that necessarily involved imparting a lot about X-Men stories. Like Marvel Saga, Wolverine Saga had panels from prior comics interspersed with explanatory text describing the characters' histories. On the last page of each issue, it listed all the comics by issue number that were sources for the included material, but it didn't specify which issue corresponded with which panel of art. So in those pre-internet days, there was a lot of detective work trying to match these issues up. This made me really interested in the Brood Saga, and it was so cool when I got Uncanny X-Men #166 for Christmas one year.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 13, 2023 21:43:11 GMT -5
I desperately wanted that Nick Fury to be good, especially after I found Nick Fury vs SHIELD to be a very mixed bag.............
and...........
....it was okay. Not anywhere near as good as the Steranko run (visually or plots), not as fun as Tony Isabella's use of SHIELD in Daredevil (where Silvermane started a new HYDRA, with super villain lieutenants) or Marv Wolfman's in a couple of MTIO issues or even their appearance in The Micronauts. The new characters introduced were kind of dull and nothing really cool happened, nor was it a great espionage thriller or serious threats. There was some brief life, when HYDRA and Baron Strucker were revived, but it never really went anywhere. Visually, it was pretty middle-of-the-road.
I looked at a couple of Jim Lee X-Men issues, but the story didn't really pull me in much, other than that flashback to WW2, with Captain America and Wolverine. His stuff was a bit cleaner, a bit more dynamic (though prone to posing every other panel, and lots of stock poses), but I never really read a story that he illustrated that I thought was that different or deep. Nothing wrong with that; but, I was bored with that kind of material, by that stage and was branching more and more into more alternative works and more unique storytellers, or someone who did something really interesting with something old.
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Post by commond on Nov 14, 2023 7:22:12 GMT -5
October 1989
June 1989 was an incredibly important month for the comic book industry as a whole as Tim Burton's Batman became the smash hit of the summer and the direct market fully embraced the Batmania that ensured. Comic retailers had been aware of the film and its potential to be a success long before the film's advertising campaign began in May and merchandise had been shipping in large qualities prior to the film's release. However, nothing could have quite braced retailers for how popular the film would become. Batman vaulted past Uncanny X-Men in sales, and the film adaptation, which had a difficult production history and almost didn't make it onto the stands, matched X-Men for dollars earned. Legends of the Dark Knight #1 would go on to be the biggest selling book of the year with pre-orders so high that shipments had to be broken up over several weeks with different variant covers. This revival in the direct market led in no small part to the speculator boom of the early 90s.
Marvel, interestingly, did little in the way to counter the film's success. To be fair, Marvel still published the vast majority of the top 50 selling books, but they appeared to pay much more attention to the direct market when they launched Spider-Man #1 the following year. In June 1989, Uncanny X-Men #250 wasn't even a double-sized spectacular. It was part of a bi-weekly storyline that didn't even have a name. It was called Dissolution and Rebirth in advertisements, which I believe was used for a collected edition later on, but the covers and the issues themselves didn't feature a name.
Marvel's creators were certainly interested in the Batman film as they referenced it in comics throughout the year.
The launch of Mark Gruenwald's Quasar series goes a long way to highlighting the difference between Shooter and DeFalco. Gruenwald had long desired to write a Quasar series, but Shooter had been adamant that there wasn't an audience for it. DeFalco not only greenlit it, but brought over the entire D.P. 7 creative team from the defunct book. Granted, Gruenwald was his right hand man, but DeFalco published virtually anything during this period. In this same month, there's a Shadowmasters limited series spin-off from Punisher War Journal, which itself had only just spun off from the main Punisher book. Quasar was the type of book I enjoyed whenever I stumbled upon it as a kid, but it was basically Gruenwald exploring the obscure corners of the Marvel Universe, ploughing through the handbook for ideas, and mixing it a little New Universe realism. There was also the legacy of him screwing over Roger Stern and his Captain Marvel character in favor of Quasar which leaves a bitter taste n the mouth.
The biggest curiosity from this month, however, is the Nightmare on Elm Street magazine (with a story by Steve Gerber, no less) that was cancelled after two issues because people like Martin Goodman and Jim Galton were opposed to it morally. There was a backlash against violence in comics at the time, and Freddy toys, but my question is, were Goodman and Galton reading the other comics Marvel were putting out at the time?
Claremont has left Wolverine at this point and Peter David writes the bi-weekly storyline. After that, the book is shuffled through a few different hands, Archie Goodwin and Jo Duffy most notably, before the beginning of Larry Hama's run. You have to wonder why no-one was interested in landing one of the highest selling books in the company. Curious.
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Post by MDG on Nov 14, 2023 10:54:02 GMT -5
October 1989June 1989 was an incredibly important month for the comic book industry as a whole as Tim Burton's Batman became the smash hit of the summer and the direct market fully embraced the Batmania that ensured. Comic retailers had been aware of the film and its potential to be a success long before the film's advertising campaign began in May and merchandise had been shipping in large qualities prior to the film's release. However, nothing could have quite braced retailers for how popular the film would become. Batman vaulted past Uncanny X-Men in sales, and the film adaptation, which had a difficult production history and almost didn't make it onto the stands, matched X-Men for dollars earned. Legends of the Dark Knight #1 would go on to be the biggest selling book of the year with pre-orders so high that shipments had to be broken up over several weeks with different variant covers. This revival in the direct market led in no small part to the speculator boom of the early 90s.... And--and please correct me if I'm wrong--this was the last time a successful comic book movie significantly boosted comic sales as a whole. IIRC, Marvel expected the fiorst X-Men movie to do it, but it never did.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 14, 2023 12:52:24 GMT -5
October 1989June 1989 was an incredibly important month for the comic book industry as a whole as Tim Burton's Batman became the smash hit of the summer and the direct market fully embraced the Batmania that ensured. Comic retailers had been aware of the film and its potential to be a success long before the film's advertising campaign began in May and merchandise had been shipping in large qualities prior to the film's release. However, nothing could have quite braced retailers for how popular the film would become. Batman vaulted past Uncanny X-Men in sales, and the film adaptation, which had a difficult production history and almost didn't make it onto the stands, matched X-Men for dollars earned. Legends of the Dark Knight #1 would go on to be the biggest selling book of the year with pre-orders so high that shipments had to be broken up over several weeks with different variant covers. This revival in the direct market led in no small part to the speculator boom of the early 90s.... And--and please correct me if I'm wrong--this was the last time a successful comic book movie significantly boosted comic sales as a whole. IIRC, Marvel expected the fiorst X-Men movie to do it, but it never did. Directly, yeah, pretty much. V For Vendetta made more people aware of the original comic work and sales of it took off, as a result, despite the box office not being that spectacular. Political events helped, too.
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Post by Rob Allen on Nov 14, 2023 14:37:33 GMT -5
I recently discovered a New Universe book from another publisher. An interesting marketing ploy by Marvel.
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Post by commond on Nov 15, 2023 7:04:55 GMT -5
Tom DeFalco Year Two
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly:
DeFalco's second year in charge was another year of expansion. The Andrews Group bought Marvel in January of 1989, and their operating profit soared from $2.5 million a year when Andrews took over to about $20 million by the time they went public in '91 thanks to big increases in advertising and licensing revenue. There was a concerted effort within the company to elevate Wolverine and The Punisher to franchise level characters on par with Spider-Man and the X-Men. Judging by sales, they were largely successful. DeFalco also oversaw the lunch of several other titles, but none of them can be said to have been as successful as the Wolverine and Punisher spinoffs, and none of them made a lasting impact. More worrying, perhaps, was the lack of originality. Most of the new titles were reboots of previously cancelled series, and there weren't a lot of successful new characters.
Marvel finally pulled the plug on The New Universe, and Archie Goodwin left Marvel for DC due to his dissatisfaction with DeFalco insisting upon more superheroes in the Epic line. Goodwin's departure wasn't immediately felt as his right hand man, Carl Potts, took over the line, but the Andrews Group made it clear from the get-go that they weren't happy with the sales on Epic books.
DeFalco kept the door open for anyone who'd left due to Shooter, and the most high profile returnee was John Byrne. Even though he opted to work on relatively minor titles instead of one of the big name books, both She-Hulk and West Coast Avengers became two of Marvel's top 10 selling books in the direct market thanks to Byrne's star power. DeFalco made it clear that when it came to creative differences, he would always side with editorial, which led to some creative strife during year two and veteran talent like Simonson and Byrne quitting books in protest. Other vets like Mantlo and Englehart would eventually be forced out.
There were still a number of solid Marvel style books being produced. The talent struggled at producing mature readers material that was as good as DC books, or even the reprints of foreign material that Epic book out. One of the biggest positives, IMO, were the much maligned Image creators, who produced a lot of solid work doing guest spots on books. That was largely due to the fact that they were working within the Marvel system with experienced writers, inkers, and editors, but their artwork was extremely exciting for young readers such as myself. I can imagine an alternative reality where the Image guys never leave and comics continue as they always had without a speculator boom. I'm not sure about the impact on the comics industry as a whole, but I think Marvel would have been much better off through the course of the 90s if the young artists had stayed.
The Ugly part had to be the Punisher movie, especially when they saw what happened with Batman.
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Post by commond on Nov 15, 2023 7:31:17 GMT -5
November 1989
Love that Silvestri X-Men cover aping the classic Conan story where he's crucified in the desert. I'm not sure if it's a false memory or not, but I believe that was one of the first books I bought from a comic book store. I do remember the cover popping the first time I laid eyes on it. The X-Men at this time reminds me of one of those experimental seasons of a television show that some people love and the majority hate.
Speaking of Conan, Conan the King is laid to rest this month.
There's a Captain Marvel special by Dwayne McDuffie and Mark Bright that feels like it's testing the waters for a future series. I know the chances were slim, but I've gotta say, a well-written Captain Marvel series would have been a hell of a lot better than most of the new books Marvel was putting out. Probably would have worked out in the 21st Century. Not so sure about 1989.
Marvel messes with the cover dates for November and December in an effort to follow DC's lead in being only two months ahead of the publication date. It makes it seem like they were double-shipping every comic for two months, but I don't remember any confusion on the newsstands.
The biggest curiosity from this month is Marvel's effort to expand their black and white magazine line with The Destroyer, Remo Williams. That sounds cool, but God knows what the results were like.
I did not know that John Byrne penciled Archie Goodwin's run on Wolverine. By run, I pretty much mean story since it was a six partner that was published after he'd left the company. That had to have been a bit awkward, Byrne working on the Wolverine book that Claremont had just left. That said, he's not writing it per se, and he says in interviews that he was deliberately trying to draw with a looser style and experiment with being the artist on a book instead of the writer-artist. I might have to check this out as it ticks a lot of my fan interest boxes.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 15, 2023 8:01:46 GMT -5
I liked how the cover of that Wolverine issue was signed "John never say never again Byrne"!
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 15, 2023 10:18:57 GMT -5
I never paid attention to Byrne on Wolverine either. But getting into Wolverine was early on in my collecting/buying and my decisions were made mostly out of the story itself or the characters, not the people working on it. (Not that it would have mattered I wouldn't have recognized 99% of them anyway.) If I had noticed Byrne's name on it I might have been hesitant to buy it being the the first thing I saw of his was the 1994 Aliens: Earth Angel. Which both in art and writing were not flattering to him.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Nov 15, 2023 14:52:18 GMT -5
The biggest curiosity from this month, however, is the Nightmare on Elm Street magazine (with a story by Steve Gerber, no less) that was cancelled after two issues because people like Martin Goodman and Jim Galton were opposed to it morally. There was a backlash against violence in comics at the time, and Freddy toys, but my question is, were Goodman and Galton reading the other comics Marvel were putting out at the time? Did Martin Goodman retain much influence at Marvel after he ceased to be publisher in 1972 and went on to launch the short lived rival company Atlas/Seaboard?
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Post by commond on Nov 15, 2023 16:38:41 GMT -5
The biggest curiosity from this month, however, is the Nightmare on Elm Street magazine (with a story by Steve Gerber, no less) that was cancelled after two issues because people like Martin Goodman and Jim Galton were opposed to it morally. There was a backlash against violence in comics at the time, and Freddy toys, but my question is, were Goodman and Galton reading the other comics Marvel were putting out at the time? Did Martin Goodman retain much influence at Marvel after he ceased to be publisher in 1972 and went on to launch the short lived rival company Atlas/Seaboard? Not sure. The Goodman reference was from Buzz Dixon, who may have gotten his wires crossed.
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Post by commond on Nov 15, 2023 18:05:22 GMT -5
December 1989
Acts of Vengeance -- the crossover even the creators thought was dumb. Well, to be fair, some of them had fun with it, but I vividly remember Peter David rubbishing it in the fan press. Byrne took credit for the idea in Marvel Age, but he's always been adamant that he pitched his Immortus storyline instead, and when he carried on with it in Avengers West Coast, DeFalco got upset and Byrne quit the book in protest. Different writers took different approaches. Claremont and Nocenti got weird with it. Gruenwald was geeky, as you'd expect. Baron had fun. I absolutely hated Spider-Man getting cosmic powers during the crossover. To this very day, it's the worst Spider-Man storyline that I've ever read.
The Acts of Vengeance did introduce us to the New Warriors, which was the most promising new idea that Marvel had produced under the DeFalco tenure, and it came from his own word processor. It also gave us a second Damage Control limited series.
Byrne is already off She-Hulk and will soon shimmy from the Avengers titles. It must have been fun having him back.
They're still flogging us to death with the Punisher. There's another reprint comic out, a guest appearance in Moon Knight, and he even has his own special UK mag.
David Michelinie and Bob Layton end their second Iron Man run with a sequel to their classic Dr. Doom/Iron Man story. In many ways, this run ending signals the end of classic Bronze Age Marvel. It was one of the last holdouts a bygone era.
By contrast, Walt Simonson jumps on Fantastic Four this month to take the book into the 90s with some awesome, Simonson-esque storytelling that I absolutely loved at the time, but was cut short when Simonson followed Claremont out the door. If Simonson had continued on the book, it may have gone down as a run equal to his work on Thor and just as good as Byrne's run. If you're at all interested in a run where Simonson is allowed to go bonkers on a title, I highly recommend it.
There's a new Strikeforce Morituri limited series though I can't speak to its quality. Claremont and Art Adams have an Excalibur special out, but it's a Mojo story and I was never that into Claremont's Mojo stories. It does feature the X-Babies, however, who are always kind of fun.
As far as curiosities go, Marvel's Direct Sales Project Manager, Kurt Busiek, has a science fiction anthology series out called Open Space. It appears that the stories were written by sci-fi writers whom Busiek knew from his literary agent days. It warms my heart that Marvel was still putting out these odd little projects on the fringes of their monthly solicitations.
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