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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 26, 2023 19:01:40 GMT -5
What is this volume 1 that people keep mentioning? Love and Rockets has been collected in so many different ways that it confuses me which collection is which. That’s one of the reasons I said to just pick a volume at random from the library. I’m not sure it matters that much where you start. My favorite Jamie story, after all these years, is still 400 Rooms. My favorite Gilbert story - That’s a bit tougher. Duck Feet was my favorite for a long time. But the serialized story “Love and Rockets X” (from the first volume #31 to #39) has long been a much-loved story. My first issue was #33 and I quickly bought the previous two issues to read what I’d missed. (And then I bought the next previous two issues to get the beginning of Poison River.) But I recently read Human Disastrophism, and that’s a contender. |
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Post by shaxper on Dec 26, 2023 19:28:52 GMT -5
I own and have read the first five volumes, and I can say I definitely like it. I never feel compelled to read more, and yet some of Gilbert's stuff has positively stuck with me. There are moments and storylines I will never ever forget. So why don't I feel compelled to read more? I have no idea.
At the very least, I can say that as possibly the least enthusiastic fan of Love & Rockets in this community, I'm still better off for having read what I've read of it. And I'll almost certainly end up going back for more.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 26, 2023 21:18:06 GMT -5
Thanks for the opinions guys! I've often been one of those people that 'don't get it' when people start talking about 'literature'. To me, the phrase means 'stuff other people told me to like'. But so many people seem to have genuine love I feel like I should check it out. I'll see what the library has.
The internet tells me to start with Maggie the Mechanic, and that 1/2 of things sounds more up my alley (I don't really get Punk in general, I fear. No angst in my life I guess). I'll definitely let everyone know if I get it!
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 26, 2023 22:15:09 GMT -5
Chronologically, these are the volumes in the series, as Fantagraphics collected them:
1.) Music for Mechanics
2.) Chelo's Burden
3.) Las Mujeres Perdidas
4.) Tears From Heaven
5.) House of Raging Women
6.) Duck Feet
7.) The Death of Speedy
8.) Blood of Palomar
9.) Flies on the Cieling
10.) Love & Rockets X
11.) Wigwam Bam
12.) Poison River
13.) Chester Square
That took it to the end of the original comic magazine. Then, they started putting out new material, solo and together.
14.) Luba Conquers The World
15.) Hernandez Satyricon
16.) Whoa Nellie!
17.) Fear of Comics
18.) Locas in Love
19.) Luba in America
20.) Dicks and Deedees
21.) The Book of Ofelia
22.) Ghost of Hoppers
23.) Three Daughters
24.) The Education of Hopey Glass
25.) High Soft Lisp
26.) God and Science: The Return of the Ti-Girls
27.) Julio's Day
28.) The Children of Palomar
29.) The Love Bunglers
30.) Is This How You See Me?
31.) Tonta
32.) Maria M
There are omnibus editions, collecting the Locas stories and the Palomar stories:
1.) Maggie the Mechanic (Locas Bk 1)
2) The Girkl From HOPPERS (Locas Bk 2)
3.) Perla is Loca (Locas Bk 3)
4.) Heartbreak Soup (Palomar Bk 1)
5.) Human Diastrophism (Palomar Bk 2)
6.) Beyond Palomar (Palomar Bk 3)
7.) Amor Y Cohetes (Non-Locas & Palomar stories)
8.) Penny Century (Locas bk 4: minis Whoa Nellie, Maggie & Hopey Color fun Comics and Penny Century)
9.) Esperanza (Locas Bk 5)
10.) Luba & Her Family (Luba Bk 1)
11.) Ofelia (Luba Bk 2)
12.) Comics Dementia (non-Locas and Palomar)
13.) Angels and Magpies (Locas Bk 6)
14.) Three Sisters (Luba Bk 3)
15.) Children of Palomar & Other Stories (Palomar Bk 5 and uncollected stories)
There are the hardcovers:
Locas 1: The Maggie and Hopey Stories
Locas 2: Maggie, Hopey and Ray
Palomar: The Heartbreak Soup Stories
Luba
There are annual volumes of The New Stories
and more.
So, Volume 1 is Maggie The Mechanic.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 26, 2023 22:21:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the opinions guys! I've often been one of those people that 'don't get it' when people start talking about 'literature'. To me, the phrase means 'stuff other people told me to like'. But so many people seem to have genuine love I feel like I should check it out. I'll see what the library has. The internet tells me to start with Maggie the Mechanic, and that 1/2 of things sounds more up my alley (I don't really get Punk in general, I fear. No angst in my life I guess). I'll definitely let everyone know if I get it! House of Raging Women, Chester Square and Whoa Nellie! all feature pro wrestling action, from Maggie's aunt Vicky Glory and Rena Titanon (Lady's world champion), Diablo Blanco (male masked luchador) and Maggie's cousin Xochitl and her partner Gina Bravo. Best depiction of pro wrestling you will ever find, from real fans, as Los Bros grew up with Los Angeles wrestling, Dick Lane, Goliath & Black Gordman, The Destroyer, Mil Mascaras, Roddy Piper, Chavo Guerrero and Keith Franks aka Adrian Adonis. |
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Post by commond on Dec 26, 2023 23:02:48 GMT -5
If Maggie the Mechanic is the collection I’m thinking of, it only contains Jaime’s work. To me, the joy of reading Love and Rockets was reading each brother’s contribution to the latest issue. IIRC, they printed a collection of the first 50 issues.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 27, 2023 1:10:17 GMT -5
If Maggie the Mechanic is the collection I’m thinking of, it only contains Jaime’s work. To me, the joy of reading Love and Rockets was reading each brother’s contribution to the latest issue. IIRC, they printed a collection of the first 50 issues. Well, the original vol 1, Music For Mechanics, has Jaime, Gilbert and Mario. The omnibus vol 1, Maggie the Mechanic (I screwed up at the end, above) has just Jaime's Locas stories. The original collections were mix, for a while, then they started doing separate collections to get their storylines under one roof. |
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Post by MDG on Dec 27, 2023 9:09:44 GMT -5
What got me into it that folks might want to try, is the three-issue color Mechanicsmini series. (Which I just realized is 40 years old and may not be the easiest thing to find).
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 27, 2023 9:10:42 GMT -5
I own and have read the first five volumes, and I can say I definitely like it. I never feel compelled to read more, and yet some of Gilbert's stuff has positively stuck with me. There are moments and storylines I will never ever forget. So why don't I feel compelled to read more? I have no idea. At the very least, I can say that as possibly the least enthusiastic fan of Love & Rockets in this community, I'm still better off for having read what I've read of it. And I'll almost certainly end up going back for more. Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. |
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Post by MDG on Dec 27, 2023 9:24:25 GMT -5
Pick the answer you like best: Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. Like Silver Age comics. Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. Like Claremont's X-Men. Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. Like life. |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 27, 2023 9:54:50 GMT -5
Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. Like Claremont's X-Men. Yeah, calling B.S. on this one. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 27, 2023 10:51:06 GMT -5
Pick the answer you like best: Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. Like Silver Age comics. Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. Like Claremont's X-Men. Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. Like life. Not so fast there, the SA Marvel had events that tied together issue after issue. DC , not so much, that’s why DC got steam rolled by Marvel after a while. |
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Post by spoon on Dec 27, 2023 11:26:29 GMT -5
I haven't read any of Love & Rockets, but I do have the Maggie the Mechanic and Heartbreak Soup Omnibi in my backlog of unread TPBs. I bought a while back based on all the praise.
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Post by commond on Dec 27, 2023 17:32:23 GMT -5
I own and have read the first five volumes, and I can say I definitely like it. I never feel compelled to read more, and yet some of Gilbert's stuff has positively stuck with me. There are moments and storylines I will never ever forget. So why don't I feel compelled to read more? I have no idea. At the very least, I can say that as possibly the least enthusiastic fan of Love & Rockets in this community, I'm still better off for having read what I've read of it. And I'll almost certainly end up going back for more. Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. With all due respect, you only read the first volume. There are several story arcs within Locas and Palomar that tie together as linear narratives. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 27, 2023 18:15:21 GMT -5
Maybe you’re not compelled to keep reading because the stories don’t tie together in a linear narrative. It seems the stories jump around without any reason. With all due respect, you only read the first volume. There are several story arcs within Locas and Palomar that tie together as linear narratives. I believe I've read more than the first volume over the years. I have the Penny century mini and have read many L@R on digital. It just doesn't resonate with me. |
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