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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 5, 2024 7:42:54 GMT -5
People are protesting that Thanos was right ? Probably not because his plan made no damn sense. If you have the Infinity Gauntlet, just wish enough resources into existence. This is the flaw in adapting it from the comic. In the comic he just wanted half the universe dead to please death. He was batshit crazy. |
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Post by impulse on Jan 5, 2024 9:41:30 GMT -5
Probably not because his plan made no damn sense. If you have the Infinity Gauntlet, just wish enough resources into existence. This is the flaw in adapting it from the comic. In the comic he just wanted half the universe dead to please death. He was batshit crazy. That element still makes sense. He was a warlord who didn't even think to just make more resources, or that halving the population would only be a half measure because they will regrow. But he's crazy. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 5, 2024 18:16:00 GMT -5
Probably not because his plan made no damn sense. If you have the Infinity Gauntlet, just wish enough resources into existence. This is the flaw in adapting it from the comic. In the comic he just wanted half the universe dead to please death. He was batshit crazy. I loved that Thanos so much more. Supremely powerful, and yet still obsessed with a goal he could never realistically attain. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 5, 2024 18:21:18 GMT -5
This is the flaw in adapting it from the comic. In the comic he just wanted half the universe dead to please death. He was batshit crazy. I loved that Thanos so much more. Supremely powerful, and yet still obsessed with a goal he could never realistically attain. Also , In the movie he was a sadistic killer that was more at home destroying than reaching a peaceful solution to the population problem |
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Post by zaku on Jan 6, 2024 8:17:17 GMT -5
Well a superhero movie has to be somewhat simplistic. Considering what they cost, they should appeal to as many people as possible.
But I must say that DC's animated films have always been a pleasant surprise.
On the Live Action side, every now and then there have been some attempts to make superhero films that are different from the mainstream. Who remembers Super?
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Post by zaku on Jan 6, 2024 20:18:59 GMT -5
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Post by impulse on Jan 7, 2024 22:32:53 GMT -5
Just based on that excerpt, I'm not convinced. It seems it's not that superhero movies are dying, but that the studios can't put out just any piece of shit movie with spandex and a cape and expect to make a billion dollars anymore. The two actually good ones did very well, not surprisingly.
The studios may need to slow down and put in actual effort again, but I think it's premature to call them dead. Maybe go back to making movies instead of content.
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Post by zaku on Jan 8, 2024 4:36:35 GMT -5
Just based on that excerpt, I'm not convinced. It seems it's not that superhero movies are dying, but that the studios can't put out just any piece of shit movie with spandex and a cape and expect to make a billion dollars anymore. The two actually good ones did very well, not surprisingly. The studios may need to slow down and put in actual effort again, but I think it's premature to call them dead. Maybe go back to making movies instead of content. I think superhero movies have in a way followed the trend of comic books of the same genre in recent years. The first megasuperevents attracted many readers, even if the quality was not always excellent. Then over the years, since you couldn't infinitely surpass the previous event in grandeur, readers got tired of the event just as an "event" without an underlying quality. Also, like recent comics, the latest superhero movies have become "unfriendly" to newcomers. I've heard from more than one person who didn't go to see Marvels because they simply feared they wouldn't understand it if they hadn't seen I don't know how many previous films and TV series. |
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Post by impulse on Jan 8, 2024 8:36:05 GMT -5
I agree with both points as part of the lower quality overall. Disney/Marvel succeeded in adapting a serialized ongoing comic book universe to the big screen and brought along the inherent challenges with it.
They've lost sight of the fact it wasn't just that big events happened, but it was well-developed characters we grew to like that experienced events. They are skipping over the well-liked and developed characters and just jumping to the big events, but they aren't even doing that part as well as they used to.
They could also improve marketing to emphasize that these stories can be standalone...and they should make them standalone.
Shorthand, it all comes down to the writing. The writing isn't good enough. If they keep pumping out generic copycat movies with characters no one cares about, people might not get superhero fatigue, but they will see a decline in the value of the brand and move on.
They can call it whatever they want, but if they keep putting out crappy movies, people will stop seeing them.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 8, 2024 10:04:34 GMT -5
They should have multiple variant posters for the movies, including black and white ones, blank ones, ones with furry animals and a zombie variant.
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Post by driver1980 on Jan 8, 2024 10:08:30 GMT -5
I agree with both points as part of the lower quality overall. Disney/Marvel succeeded in adapting a serialized ongoing comic book universe to the big screen and brought along the inherent challenges with it. They've lost sight of the fact it wasn't just that big events happened, but it was well-developed character we grew to like that experienced events. They are skipping over the well-liked and developed characters and just jumping to the big event, but they aren't even doing that part as well as they used to. They could also improve marketing to emphasize that these stories can be standalone...and they should make them standone. Shorthand, it all comes down to the writing. The writing isn't good enough. If they keep pumping out generic copycat movies with characters no one cares about, people might not get superhero fatigue, but they will see a decline in the value of the brand and move on. They can call it whatever they want, but if they keep putting out crappy movies, people will stop seeing them. I know I may be comparing apples and oranges, but when I think of the DC movies released in the 80s (Superman II, III and IV, Supergirl, Swamp Thing, Return of the Swamp Thing, and Batman), at least they had a different flavour. We can debate the merits and how effective they are, but they were different. We can debate how effective Supergirl and Selina battling over a man is when compared with Superman vs. Zod, but they were different, and nothing was tying into anything. I am bored with seeing headlines such as “DEADPOOL 3 WILL SET UP SECRET WARS” or something being part of a bigger whole. Be careful what you wish for: as a kid, I wanted them to build a universe (even if I didn’t understand the term), and would have loved a Chris Reeve cameo in Burton’s Batman, in order to set up a JLA movie, but I think I prefer the standalone approach. But I know the genie is out of the bottle. |
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Post by impulse on Jan 8, 2024 11:22:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind more standalones, either, but even with the events, they could be better. The problem as I see it is they are just skipping the substance.
Maybe the simple answer would have been just keeping the Phase 1 formula where each hero has their own stories, and they *only* come together for the big event movie every few years instead of now where everything feeds into everything.
Or maybe they could still do everything feeding into everything if they didn't get greedy and pump out tons of crap and kept to a more streamlined single storyline. Ha, it really is just like comics.
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Post by impulse on Jan 8, 2024 11:28:00 GMT -5
They should have multiple variant posters for the movies, including black and white ones, blank ones, ones with furry animals and a zombie variant. I would be delighted if they use a Hologram poster when the XMEN first enter the MCU. |
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Post by zaku on Jan 8, 2024 11:54:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind more standalones, either, but even with the events, they could be better. The problem as I see it is they are just skipping the substance. Maybe the simple answer would have been just keeping the Phase 1 formula where each hero has their own stories, and they *only* come together for the big event movie every few years instead of now where everything feeds into everything. Or maybe they could still do everything feeding into everything if they didn't get greedy and pump out tons of crap and kept to a more streamlined single storyline. Ha, it really is just like comics. ...How have they resolved the inflation of mega events and stories not accessible to newcomers in recent superhero comics? |
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Post by impulse on Jan 8, 2024 12:16:47 GMT -5
It's optimistic that you think they've solved it.
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