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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 12, 2024 10:10:14 GMT -5
Signs the holiday season is over: decorations are back in their boxes, all the eggnog has been drunk, most New Year's resolutions are already broken, and the final results of Classic Comics Christmas '23 are calculated and ready for posting. I gotta say this was a great year, notable for the large number of votes cast for comics published in the 21st century and the absence of manga and British comics. Before we get to the nitty-gritty, what say we indulge in some tasty statistics, eh?
25 participants cast 296 votes (including one disqualification) for 251 spin-off series. Tieing for first place with 11 votes each were Black Panther (with the Jungle Action run dominant) and Uncle Scrooge (with 6 votes for Carl Barks' version and 5 for Don Rosa's). Claiming the silver all by his lonesome was Howard the Duck with 9 votes. Third place went to Legion of Super-Heroes and Red Sonja (6 votes for the Marvel series, 2 for Dynamite's), each garnering 8 votes apiece. The rest of the voting breaks down as follows:
7 votes – Nick Fury, Warlock
6½ votes – The Silver Surfer, Wolverine
5 votes – Death, Dr. Doom, John Constantine, Jughead, The Squadron Supreme
4 votes – Ambush Bug, Hawkeye, Lucifer, The Thing
3 votes – Batgirl, Black Widow, Gotham Central, Jimmy Olsen, Ka-Zar, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Nemo Trilogy, Lois Lane, Moon Knight, The Shade, Zatanna
2 votes – Alpha Flight, The Authority, Batwoman, Betty, Black Canary, BPRD, Catwoman, Crossfire, Dass Jennir, Elektra, Elongated Man, The Falcon, Fat Freddy's Cat, Hitman, Jack of Fables, Jezebel Jade, Magik , Man-Eating Cow, The New Warriors, Nightwing, Penny Century, Smax, The Superior Foes of Spider-Man, Tales of Asgard, Tales of the Bizarro World, The Watcher, Whoa, Nellie!
½ vote – Galactus, Kitty Pryde
1 vote – Everybody else!
Legion of Super-Heroes led the field in first place votes with 4, followed by John Constantine and Uncle Scrooge heading 2 lists each.
Marvel and DC, unsurprisingly, garnered most of the votes between them, but a number of other publishers had respectable showings as well. It broke down as follows:
126 votes – Marvel (including 3 under the Epic imprint) 94 – DC (18 Vertigo, 3 Wildstorm, 2 America's Best) 10 – Archie 8 – Dark Horse, Fantagraphics 7 – Dell 5 – Gladstone 3 – Dynamite, Eclipse, Top Shelf 2 – Comico, IDW, New England, Rip-Off Press, Valiant 1 – Bongo, Cartoon Books, Dirou, Dupui, Fawcett, First, Harvey, Hillman, Icon, Image, Les Humanoides Associés, Quality, Topps, Tower, Wildstorm
Finally, here's how the votes broke down by decade:
1940s – 8 votes 1950s – 12 1960s – 37 1970s – 52 1980s – 64 1990s – 61 2000s – 39 2010s – 20
And now, on to your lists!
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 12, 2024 10:16:34 GMT -5
berkley
John Constantine [Hellblazer] (DC/Vertigo, 1988) Moon Knight (Marvel, 1978) Boys: Highland Laddie (Dynamite, 2010) Black Widow (Marvel, 1983) Smax (DC/America's Best, 2003) Black Panther (Marvel, 1976) Dr. Doom (Marvel, 1970) Warlock (Marvel, 1975) Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD (Marvel, 1965) Howard the Duck (Marvel, 1976) Penny Century (Fantagraphics, 1997) New Love (Fantagraphics, 1996)
Cei-U!
12. Adventures of Alfred (DC, 1944) 11. Nightcrawler (Marvel, 1985) 10. Shade (DC, 1997) 9. Kid Flash (DC, 1960) 8. Uncle Scrooge (Dell, 1952) 7. Red Sonja (Marvel, 1977) 6. Black Panther (Marvel, 1973) 5. Howard the Duck (Marvel, 1976) 4. Tales of Asgard (Marvel, 1963) 3. Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD (Marvel, 1965) 2. Crossfire (Eclipse, 1984) 1. Tales of the Bizarro World (DC, 1961)
coke & comics
Thanos (Marvel, 2003) Dr. Doom (Marvel, 1993) Dreadstar (Marvel/Epic, 1982) Watcher [What If?] (Marvel, 1977) Gotham Central (DC, 2002) Wolverine [Marvel Comics Presents) (Marvel, 1991) Thunderbolts (Marvel, 1997) Squadron Supreme (Marvel, 1985) Inhumans (Marvel, 1998) Lucifer (DC/Vertigo, 2000) Silver Surfer (Marvel, 1968) Warlock (Marvel, 1975)
commond
Elektra: Assassin (Marvel/Epic, 1986) Shado: Song of the Dragon (DC, 1992) Jezebel Jade (Comico, 1988) Valkyrie (Eclipse, 1987) Bob Burden's Original Mysterymen Comics (Dark Horse, 1999) Ambush Bug (DC, 1985) FF (Marvel, 2012) Superior Foes of Spider-Man (Marvel, 2013) Whoa, Nellie! (Fantagraphics, 1996) Shade (DC, 1997) Gotham Central (DC, 2002) John Constantine [Hellblazer] (DC/Vertigo, 1988)
Confessor
Thing (Marvel, 1983) Falcon (Marvel, 1983) Hit-Girl (Icon, 2012) League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Nemo Trilogy (Top Shelf, 2013) Jack of Fables (DC/Vertigo, 2006) Sir Edward Grey, Witchfinder (Dark Horse, 2009) Cloak & Dagger (Marvel, 1983) Daughters of the Dragon (Marvel, 2006) Dr. Doom [Books of Doom] (Marvel, 2006) Death (DC/Vertigo, 1983) Dass Jennir [Star Wars: Dark Times] (Dark Horse, 2006) Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD (Marvel, 1965)
Crimebuster
Red Sonja (Marvel, 1983) Betty [Betty and Me] (Archie, 1973) Deadly Dozen [Combat Kelly] (Marvel, 1972) Black Canary (DC, 1972) Supergirl (DC, 1969) Hawkeye (Marvel, 2003) Squadron Supreme (Marvel, 1985) Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD (Marvel, 1965) Losers (DC, 1970) Lois Lane (DC, 1969) Starman (DC, 1994) Jughead (Archie, 1997)
DubipR
Cheryl Blossom (Archie, 1995) Superior Foes of Spider-Man (Marvel, 2013) Mr. Majestic (DC/Wildstorm, 1999) Kevin Kellar (Archie, 2012) Whoa, Nellie! (Fantagraphics, 1996) Hate! (Fantagraphics, 1990) Measles (Fantagraphics, 1998) Fat Freddy's Cat (Rip-Off Press, 1977) Impulse (DC, 1995) Penny Century (Fantagraphics, 1997) Luba's Comics and Stories (Fantagraphics, 2000) Power Girl (DC, 2009)
Edo Bosnar
Howard the Duck (Marvel, 1976) Falcon (Marvel, 1983) Darkdevil (Marvel, 2000) Thing [Marvel Two-in-One] (Marvel, 1974) Ka-Zar (Marvel, 1981) Uncle Scrooge (Dell, 1952) Squadron Supreme (Marvel, 1985) Star Trek: Leonard McCoy, Frontier Doctor (IDW, 2010) Balder the Brave (Marvel, 1985) Smax (DC/America's Best, 2003) Black Panther (Marvel, 1973) Grendel Tales: Devil's Choices (Dark Horse, 1995)
To be continued...
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 12, 2024 10:17:33 GMT -5
Farrar
Merry the Girl of a Thousand Gimmicks (DC, 1948) Her Highness and Silk (Quality, 1943) Veronica (Archie, 1989) Robotman / Negative Man (DC, 1965) Thing (Marvel, 2006) Wendy the Good Little Witch (Harvey, 1960) Silver Surfer (Marvel, 1968) Rose and The Thorn (DC, 1970) Black Widow (Marvel, 1970) Lois Lane (DC, 1958) Batgirl (DC, 1969) Legion of Super-Heroes (DC, 1962)
foxley
Bar Sinister (Valiant/Windjammer, 1995) Lady Rawhide (Topps, 1995) Silver Sable and the Wild Pack (Marvel, 1992) League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Nemo Trilogy (Top Shelf, 2013) Catwoman (DC, 1993) Vigilante (DC, 1983) Batwoman (DC, 2011) Black Canary (DC, 1991) Red Sonja (Marvel, 1977) Gotham Central (DC, 2002) Zatanna (DC, 2010) Suicide Squad (DC, 1987)
Icctrombone
Glory (Image, 1995) Wolverine (Marvel, 1982) Hawkeye (Marvel, 1987) Warlock (Marvel, 1972) Eternal Warrior (Valiant, 1992) Alpha Flight (Marvel, 1983) Barbara Gordon/Batgirl/Oracle [Birds of Prey] (DC, 1996) Catwoman (DC, 1993) Silver Surfer (Marvel, 1987) Flash [Wally West] (DC, 1987) Hitman (DC, 1996) Deathstroke the Terminator (DC, 1991)
Jeddak
Man-Eating Cow (New England, 1992) Dr. Doom (Marvel, 1970) Jughead's Time Police (Archie, 1988) Uncle Scrooge (Gladstone, 1994) Fantastic Force (Marvel, 1994) Black Panther (Marvel, 1973) Howard the Duck (Marvel, 1976) Warlock (Marvel, 1975) Red Sonja (Dynamite, 2013) Death (DC/Vertigo, 1983) Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD (Marvel, 1968) Legion of Super-Heroes (DC, 1962)
MRPs_Missives
Priam Agrivar [Forgotten Realms] (DC, 1989) Zatanna (DC, 2011) Jezebel Jade (Comico, 1988) Lucifer (DC/Vertigo, 2000) Red Sonja (Dynamite, 2013) Batgirl: Year One (DC, 2003) Black Panther (Marvel, 1998) Sleeper (WildStorm, 2003) Shade (DC, 2011) Death (DC/Vertigo, 1983) Rose (Cartoon Books, 2000) Uncle Scrooge (Gladstone, 1994)
MWGallaher
Tales of the Bizarro World (DC, 1961) Seven Soldiers: Klarion (DC, 2005) Black Panther (Marvel, 1973) Elongated Man (DC, 1992) Uncle Scrooge (Dell, 1952) GCPD (DC, 1996) Heap (Hillman, 1946) Beast (Marvel, 1972) Legion of Super-Heroes (DC, 1962) Kents (DC, 1997) Crossfire (Eclipse, 1984) Jimmy Olsen (DC, 1971)
Paste-Pot Paul
Nightwing (DC, Black Panther (Marvel, 1973) Wolverine (Marvel, 1982) Hawkeye (Marvel, 2003) Jughead (Archie, 1949) Uncle Scrooge (Dell, 1952) Thing [Marvel Two-in-One] (Marvel, 1974) Ambush Bug (DC, 1985) Warlock (Marvel, 1975) Authority (DC/Wildstorm, 1999) Grimjack (First, 1983) - disqualified Legion of Super-Heroes (DC, 1984)
Pol Rua
NoMan (Tower, 1966) Nightwing and Flamebird (DC, 1977) Man-Eating Cow (New England, 1992) Judah the Hammer (First, 1990) Squadron Supreme (Marvel, 1985) BPRD (Dark Horse, 2002) Vision and The Scarlet Witch (Marvel, 1982) Uncle Scrooge (Gladstone, 1994) Legion of Super-Heroes (DC, 1984) Jimmy Olsen (DC, 1954) Agents of Atlas (Marvel, 2006) Great Lakes Avengers (Marvel, 2005)
To be continued...
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 12, 2024 10:18:25 GMT -5
Prince Hal
Captain Savage (Marvel, 1967) Blackhawk Detached Service Diary (DC, 1964) Howard the Duck (Marvel, 1976) Black Panther (Marvel, 1973) Red Sonja (Marvel, 1975) Tomahawk's Rangers (DC, 1966) Tales of Asgard (Marvel, 1968) Silver Surfer (Marvel, 1968) Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD (Marvel, 1965) Elongated Man (DC, 1964) Robin (DC, 1947) Legion of Super-Heroes (DC, 1962)
Rags
Death (DC/Vertigo, 1983) Red Sonja (Marvel, 1975) Chili (Marvel, 1969) Jack of Fables (DC/Vertigo, 2006) Joker (DC, 1975) Wolverine: The Origin (Marvel, 2001) Emma Frost (Marvel, 2003) Elektra: Assassin (Marvel/Epic, 1986) Black Widow (Marvel, 1999) X-23 (Marvel, 2005) Betty [Betty and Me] (Archie, 1965) Punisher (Marvel, 1985)
Rob Allen
Lois Lane (DC, 1957) Watcher (Marvel, 1968) Jughead (Archie, 1949) Jimmy Olsen (DC, 1954) Ms. Marvel (Marvel, 1976) Ka-Zar (Marvel, 1970) Red Sonja (Marvel, 1975) Silver Surfer (Marvel, 1968) Black Panther (Marvel, 1973) Warlock (Marvel, 1975) Howard the Duck (Marvel, 1976) Fat Freddy's Cat (Rip-Off Press, 1977)
Roquefort Raider
Smurfs (Dupui, 1959) Silver Surfer (Marvel, 1968) Moon Knight (Marvel, 1980) Ka-Zar (Marvel, 1970) Howard the Duck (Marvel, 1976) Black Panther (Marvel, 2005) Wolverine (Marvel, 1982) La Caste des Meta-Barons (Les Humanoides Associés, 1992) Hawkeye (Marvel, 2012) Warlock (Marvel, 1975) Legion of Super-Heroes (DC, 1962) John Constantine [Hellblazer] (DC/Vertigo, 1988)
shaxper
Howard the Duck (Marvel, 1976) Authority (DC/Wildstorm, 1999) Magik (Marvel, 1983) Batgirl and Robin [Batman Family] (DC, 1975) Black Panther (Marvel, 1973) Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD (Marvel, 1965) X-Factor (Marvel, 1985) Jughead's Diner (Archie, 1990) Legion of Super-Heroes (DC, 1962) Teen Titans (DC, 1966) Uncle Scrooge (Dell, 1952) Galactus and The Silver Surfer (Marvel, 1988)
Slam Bradley
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Nemo Trilogy (Top Shelf, 2013) Preacher Special: Saint of Killers (DC/Vertigo, 1996) Tubby (Dell, 1952) Howard the Duck (Marvel, 1976) Ambush Bug (DC, 1985) Death (DC/Vertigo, 1983) Radioactive Man (Bongo, 1993) Lucifer (DC/Vertigo, 2000) Hitman (DC, 1996) Uncle Scrooge (Gladstone, 1994) John Constantine [Hellblazer] (DC/Vertigo, 1988) Uncle Scrooge (Dell, 1952)
supercat
Ambush Bug (DC, 1985) Mary Marvel (Fawcett, 1942) Squadron Supreme (Marvel, 1985) Hercules (Marvel, 1982) Alpha Flight (Marvel, 1983) Kitty Pryde and Wolverine (Marvel, 1984)
thwhtguardian
Moon Knight (Marvel, 1980) Shredder [Secret History of the Foot Clan] (IDW, 2013) Marsupilami (Dirou, 1987) Blade (Marvel, 1994) Zatanna (DC, 2010) Dass Jennir [Star Wars: Dark Times] (Dark Horse, 2006) Lobster Johnson (Dark Horse, 2007) Miles Morales [Ultimate Spider-Man] (Marvel, 2011) Dead Boy Detectives (DC/Vertigo, 2005) John Constantine [Hellblazer] (DC/Vertigo, 1988) Batwoman (DC, 2008) BPRD (Dark Horse, 2002)
wildfire2099
New Warriors (Marvel, 1990) New Warriors [Avengers: The Initiative] (Marvel, 2007) Magik (Marvel, 1983) Lucifer (DC/Vertigo, 2000) West Coast Avengers (Marvel, 1985) Force Works (Marvel, 1994) Wolverine (Marvel, 1988) Doom 2099 (Marvel, 1993) Steel (DC, 1994) Spider-Girl (Marvel, 1998) Uncle Scrooge (Gladstone, 1994) Nightwing (DC, 1996)
To be concluded...
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 12, 2024 10:33:32 GMT -5
As always, half the fun of these surveys is seeing why folks chose what they chose. You can see those whys and wherefores in the original threads by clicking on the following links: The ChallengeThe First DayThe Second DayThe Third DayThe Fourth DayThe Fifth DayThe Sixth DayThe Seventh DayThe Eighth DayThe Ninth DayThe Tenth DayThe Eleventh DayThe Twelfth DayThe Near-MissesThis is where I normally encourage those of you who didn't submit all twelve entries to feel free to finish your lists at your convenience but everybody submitted a full dozen entries (except supercat, who decided to leave CCF midway through the event) so never mind! And as I note every year, I never truly consider these surveys closed, so if you're reading this down the line and want to add your own list, please do. All I ask is that you read the Challenge/Advance Warning thread first so you understand the rules and that you post your choices in the original threads.
And that wraps it up for another year! Thanks muchly to everyone who participated, and thanks in particular to those who chose series I'd never heard of but now find I can't live without. You guys rock! Cei-U! I summon the playful post-mortems!
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Post by shaxper on Jan 12, 2024 10:39:12 GMT -5
Had Disney comics been consistently published by one company across decades, it would have taken the #3 spot for publishers appearing in this year's event. Wow.
Kurt, thanks as always for headlining one of my most cherished holiday traditions!
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jan 12, 2024 10:42:32 GMT -5
Cei-U!Thanks for all the hard work done on this. A quick proofreading note, you have Death listed as 1983 on mine and others lists, it should be 1993. -M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 12, 2024 10:44:12 GMT -5
Thanks again, Compadre. Well done as usual.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 12, 2024 12:00:57 GMT -5
Thanks for all the work. As an aside , I think that Dreadstar would have been eligible. He was part of an ensemble cast in the epic serial.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 12, 2024 13:02:03 GMT -5
Yeah, Kurt, thanks for the wrap-up and, of course, everything that came before it.
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Post by berkley on Jan 12, 2024 16:50:16 GMT -5
Thanks for another fun experience Kurt. I look forward to this every year. BTW, was there any particular reason we stopped doing the Hallowe'en contest? Was it that we just ran out of related topics?
As has been noted by Kurt and others, the distribution of different publishers besides Marvel/DC was good to see. At a glance, I think there was also a pretty good distribution of decades or eras - I had five from the 1970s (no surprise) but the rest were spread out amongst the '60s, '80s, '90s, and 2000s.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 12, 2024 19:14:07 GMT -5
Thanks for hosting this again for another year, Kurt, and for all your hard work. It was a lot of fun.
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Post by foxley on Jan 13, 2024 7:48:02 GMT -5
Thanks again Cei-U!. I really needed this as December turned out to be the-most stressful month of a very stressful year. For me, the biggest surprise this year was LOEG: Nemo Trilogy. I really thought I was going to be the only one to list this; especially as it only just slipped in under the 2013 cutoff. However, not only did three of us list it, but two of us listed it on the same day!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 13, 2024 12:10:07 GMT -5
Thanks again Cei-U!. I really needed this as December turned out to be the-most stressful month of a very stressful year. For me, the biggest surprise this year was LOEG: Nemo Trilogy. I really thought I was going to be the only one to list this; especially as it only just slipped in under the 2013 cutoff. However, not only did three of us list it, but two of us listed it on the same day! That surprised me as well. I didn’t think anyone else would name it. I was also a bit surprised I was the only one to name Tubby Tompkins.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 13, 2024 12:56:12 GMT -5
Thanks again Cei-U! . I really needed this as December turned out to be the-most stressful month of a very stressful year. For me, the biggest surprise this year was LOEG: Nemo Trilogy. I really thought I was going to be the only one to list this; especially as it only just slipped in under the 2013 cutoff. However, not only did three of us list it, but two of us listed it on the same day! That surprised me as well. I didn’t think anyone else would name it. I was also a bit surprised I was the only one to name Tubby Tompkins. This was the worse pick of the year , flying past Glory and wildfire2099 Force Works.
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