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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 27, 2024 15:08:24 GMT -5
People like Roy Thomas were responsible for making everyone connected after a while.
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Post by Yasotay on Aug 27, 2024 17:51:12 GMT -5
It wasn’t until later that writers tied all the cosmic beings together. HE battles Galactus in the late 70’s and it seems that all the cosmic big shots keep tabs on each other. Maybe HE was in the lesser side of universe knowledge. It seems that places like Asgard should be known to the other cosmic characters. The Collector was introduced in the Avengers just a few months before these issues of Thor. Who would have thought back in the mid-1960s that The Collector would eventually be included among the Great Cosmic Beings? The first few times I saw him he was just some alien with a lot of fancy gadgets. Then he became on of the "Elders" of the universe. But still never saw him do anything until Avengers 174...
THE POWER COSMIC!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 28, 2024 7:48:47 GMT -5
I think the High Evolutionary not being more well known is because he never really had a hero as a nemesis... he made the rounds and fought quite a few different heroes, but was never really associated with anyone in particular.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 28, 2024 10:39:05 GMT -5
I think the High Evolutionary not being more well known is because he never really had a hero as a nemesis... he made the rounds and fought quite a few different heroes, but was never really associated with anyone in particular. That’s a good point. He only crossed swords with the heroes in the Evolutionary war crossover in the annuals in 89? |
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 28, 2024 14:02:45 GMT -5
The High Evolutionary has a lot of fans on this forum.
Since he doesn’t have a main hero that he fights, HE should have been in a three- or four-part arc in Marvel Team-Up, with Spidey joining forces with several random heroes who never fought him before.
Tigra
Captain Marvel
Hero for Hire
Medusa
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 28, 2024 15:40:37 GMT -5
He always struck me as a scientist that didn’t care about people, only experiments. . Like Reed Richard to the tenth power.
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Post by Yasotay on Aug 28, 2024 17:14:21 GMT -5
So most of my High Evolutionary knowledge comes after the silver age and before the Evolutionary Wars, which I know nothing about. Which heroes did the HE actually fight, particularly in the bronze age? I never really thought of him as a villain because the few times he appeared in comics I read, he was either more a neutral party or working together with some heroes.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 28, 2024 17:16:15 GMT -5
The High Evolutionary has a lot of fans on this forum. Since he doesn’t have a main hero that he fights, HE should have been in a three- or four-part arc in Marvel Team-Up, with Spidey joining forces with several random heroes who never fought him before. Tigra Captain Marvel Hero for Hire Medusa If you write this comic, I won’t buy it.  |
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Post by berkley on Aug 28, 2024 17:47:44 GMT -5
What's the Evolutionary Wars? Is that one of those "events" or was it an older story that I missed?
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 28, 2024 19:26:04 GMT -5
What's the Evolutionary Wars? Is that one of those "events" or was it an older story that I missed? It was an event that ran through all the Avengers family titles in the summer of 1988.  |
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Post by berkley on Aug 28, 2024 19:31:51 GMT -5
What's the Evolutionary Wars? Is that one of those "events" or was it an older story that I missed? It was an event that ran through all the Avengers family titles in the summer of 1988. Ah, thanks. One of those Avengers stories that came after my time as a reader. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 28, 2024 19:56:43 GMT -5
The High Evolutionary has a lot of fans on this forum. Since he doesn’t have a main hero that he fights, HE should have been in a three- or four-part arc in Marvel Team-Up, with Spidey joining forces with several random heroes who never fought him before. Tigra Captain Marvel Hero for Hire Medusa If you write this comic, I won’t buy it. You're missing out! LOL It’s set in the Bronze Age. A four-issue story arc. After the events of the Warlock comic book, The High Evolutionary decides to get back some of the technology he left on Earth when he went to Counter-Earth. (This is a spoiler. You won’t find out it’s HE until the second issue probably.) He sends some of New Men to get the technology back … and Spidey and his guest-stars keep running into them. But … there’s some other organization after the same tech! Tigra is involved because some of the tech was used in the project that created The Cat. Luke Cage is involved because he was hired by the mysterious organization but he doesn’t know they’re the bad guys … OR ARE THEY!!?? I haven’t figured out how Captain Marvel and Medusa are involved. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 28, 2024 20:17:46 GMT -5
He always struck me as a scientist that didn’t care about people, only experiments. . Like Reed Richard to the tenth power. That was definitely the case in the last appearance of his I read, which was in of the 37 New Warriors revivals that Marvel has tried and failed since Civil War. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 29, 2024 6:41:20 GMT -5
The Mighty Thor # 135
Story: Stan Lee/Jack Kirby
Script: Stan Lee
Pencils: Jack Kirby
Inks: Vince Colletta Plot summary:
The Man-Beast is unleashed at the HE headquarters and attacks Thor. It appears that the beast has abilities that will exist a millions years from now, including knowledge of every advanced form of combat and psychic powers that can harm a persons sense of time. I can't wrap my head around how the creature could gain abilities that don't exist yet. The HE enters the area and blows a horn designed to harm the MB. It's like a dog whistle. ( Yeah, a dog whistle)  . The MB escapes and creates an explosive barrier around where he is. The HE deploys a weapon designed to draw the MB out , but when he appears , he has with him other new men that he has created to attack Thor and the other knights of Wundergore who have joined the battle. In the fight, Thor is able to get past the MB's defenses and knock him out clean. The defeated new men are corralled into a something called the star chamber and sent to a distant galaxy. The High Evolutionary decides to leave earth in a rocket with his new men to pursue further experimentation away from earth. Comments:
Oh boy. Lots of convenient occurrences mar an other wise visually great story. The man Beast creates an army of evil new men in about 5 minutes. That's bit much to swallow. Maybe that's the price to pay for compressed storytelling that wants to wrap up an adventure in 1 issue, but it didn't work for me. Thor knocks out the Beast with 3 punches. It's kind of cool and disappointing at the same time. Thor explains that he has the powers of eternity ( I'll admit that that scene was awesome). It points out a concept that is floated around later in an Avengers issue , that Thor is holding back most of the time. At the end, the Manbeast and his army are sent into space WITH ALL THEIR POWERS INTACT! Maybe the HE should have found a way to strip those advanced powers from the Manbeast. I'm not sure if the MB is this formidable when we next see him. And that is a pet peeve of mine that many villains are seemingly invincible in their first appearance,, only to be easily beaten the next time you see them. The High evolutionary leaves earth in a spaceship that was also the mountain of Wundergore the entire time. That's a bit Silver agey to me. There has been an ongoing discussion about who is actually plotting the stories in this thread, so whoever wrote this plot gets a fail. Cool moments This splash of Wundergore mountain is amazing It seems that I've seen Kirby use this scene of people entering an area with people in the foreground. I love it every time. He's the master.  Thor shows a cool cosmos effect and knocks out the MB in 3 punches   Tales of AsgardThis chapter is basically Thor/ the warriors and Fafnir sizing each other up. It contains a few humorous images by Kirby- The splash page has a funny look by Fafnir that looks more like it belongs in Not Brand Echh  And after Thor strikes him with his hammer , he's holding his hand in a goofy way  It reminds me of: Avengers # 2 when they battle the Space Phantom
 Ads and stuff.    This is the back cover, I remember having the Spider-man and the Hulk as a kid 
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 29, 2024 7:00:03 GMT -5
I love how the hoverbikes or whatever they are call them look vaguely like horses... awesome design!
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. The MB escapes and creates an explosive barrier around where he is. The HE deploys a weapon designed to draw the MB out , but when he appears , he has with him other new men that he has created to attack Thor and the other knights of Wundergore who have joined the battle.