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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2024 16:03:59 GMT -5
I guess I'm different (again). I find modern television very difficult to get into, it seems very harsh to me and doesn't have the warmth of classic television. It's funny we are talking M*A*S*H, my wife and I just watched the entire run on DVD a couple of weeks ago. Until it got to some of the later seasons (where the writing felt more sitcom formulaic), we pretty much couldn't stop watching it, so much fun especially when Harry Morgan as Colonel Potter arrived. I literally remember saying they don't make actors like that anymore, I prefer a world in which a character portrayed like that was something to be admired. David Ogden Stiers was priceless as Major Winchester as well.
We're watching the full run of Twilight Zone right now, just started the last season, we seem to never get tired of that series. Prior to that a full run of WKRP in Cincinnati (I'm waiting for a modern show that could ever top "I thought turkeys could fly").
I'll say it again, it's completely subjective, it really is.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Apr 2, 2024 16:30:34 GMT -5
Interesting that you mentioned WKRP; like I said, watching M*A*S*H or Cheers is a hard pass for me. However, about a year or two ago, I found out that there was a whole bunch of WKRP episodes posted on YouTube and I ended up watching most of them over the course of a few weeks and was surprised at how much I enjoyed them (meaning that for me they held up pretty well). About 5-6 years ago, there was a a similar situation when I realized someone had posted almost the entire run of What's Happening on YouTube and I really enjoyed watching them all - although in that latter case I'll readily admit that a lot my enjoyment was due more to nostalgia than anything else.
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 2, 2024 16:40:38 GMT -5
We're watching the full run of Twilight Zone right now, just started the last season, we seem to never get tired of that series. is one of the rare TV series that one can revisit endlessly. Brilliant production. WKRP was a gem on network TV, and ended far too soon. The series stories were just as diverse as the characters, and I do not believe there was a single main character who did not have their own interesting stories. About 5-6 years ago, there was a a similar situation when I realized someone had posted almost the entire run of What's Happening on YouTube and I really enjoyed watching them all - although in that latter case I'll readily admit that a lot my enjoyment was due more to nostalgia than anything else. still has something fun about it. Although the quality of scripts could go up and down (depending on which end of the season it was the product of), its one of the few late 1970s sitcoms that I can revisit and just enjoy it--for different reasons than I had watching it in childhood. |
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Post by james on Apr 2, 2024 17:22:17 GMT -5
Interesting that you mentioned WKRP; like I said, watching M*A*S*H or Cheers is a hard pass for me. However, about a year or two ago, I found out that there was a whole bunch of WKRP episodes posted on YouTube and I ended up watching most of them over the course of a few weeks and was surprised at how much I enjoyed them (meaning that for me they held up pretty well). About 5-6 years ago, there was a a similar situation when I realized someone had posted almost the entire run of What's Happening on YouTube and I really enjoyed watching them all - although in that latter case I'll readily admit that a lot my enjoyment was due more to nostalgia than anything else. I loved WKRP. Last year I watched News Radio. Phil Hartman was such a comic genius. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 2, 2024 17:36:09 GMT -5
WKRP was and remains my favorite sitcom. Despite the outdated cultural references, it remains fresh and relevant thanks to the writing and one of the best ensemble casts in the history of American television.
Cei-U!
"Booger!"
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Apr 2, 2024 18:34:28 GMT -5
My wife and I have been going through Three's Company from the beginning, but only at most 2-3 episodes a week. Definitely can't binge it. I don't think I've ever watched much of this show as an adult. It was one of my favorite shows as a kid. It's still funny, especially the Roper's. We'll see how it holds up as we get to later seasons, as the writing isn't completely formulaic yet early in season 2
Would love to watch more of the original Twilight Zone some day. My wife was bored to tears by it when we tried it years back. That will be a "me show" next time
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Post by MDG on Apr 2, 2024 19:18:12 GMT -5
Interesting that you mentioned WKRP; like I said, watching M*A*S*H or Cheers is a hard pass for me. However, about a year or two ago, I found out that there was a whole bunch of WKRP episodes posted on YouTube and I ended up watching most of them over the course of a few weeks and was surprised at how much I enjoyed them (meaning that for me they held up pretty well). About 5-6 years ago, there was a a similar situation when I realized someone had posted almost the entire run of What's Happening on YouTube and I really enjoyed watching them all - although in that latter case I'll readily admit that a lot my enjoyment was due more to nostalgia than anything else. I loved WKRP. Last year I watched News Radio. Phil Hartman was such a comic genius. Yeah, I've been working through Newsradio and it's usually pretty solid, with a great cast. During the pandemic, without watching the shows, I listened to a WKRP podcast called "Hold my order terrible dresser." Really good; the two hosts are history teachers, and gave the historical context for the plots and topical references. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 2, 2024 21:03:52 GMT -5
I loved WKRP. Last year I watched News Radio. Phil Hartman was such a comic genius. Yeah, I've been working through Newsradio and it's usually pretty solid, with a great cast. During the pandemic, without watching the shows, I listened to a WKRP podcast called "Hold my order terrible dresser." Really good; the two hosts are history teachers, and gave the historical context for the plots and topical references. You needed historical context just for some of the band posters in the walls. I think Suzi Quatro got more attention from that show than her own record label, for at least one season. Almost more than her appearances on Happy Days. The one they did, in response to the deaths at the Who concert, was powerful. I could have gone for a spin-off show with Mama Carlson and Hirsch. |
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Post by berkley on Apr 3, 2024 0:12:08 GMT -5
I guess I'm different (again). I find modern television very difficult to get into, it seems very harsh to me and doesn't have the warmth of classic television. It's funny we are talking M*A*S*H, my wife and I just watched the entire run on DVD a couple of weeks ago. Until it got to some of the later seasons (where the writing felt more sitcom formulaic), we pretty much couldn't stop watching it, so much fun especially when Harry Morgan as Colonel Potter arrived. I literally remember saying they don't make actors like that anymore, I prefer a world in which a character portrayed like that was something to be admired. David Ogden Stiers was priceless as Major Winchester as well. We're watching the full run of Twilight Zone right now, just started the last season, we seem to never get tired of that series. Prior to that a full run of WKRP in Cincinnati (I'm waiting for a modern show that could ever top "I thought turkeys could fly"). I'll say it again, it's completely subjective, it really is. I haven't tried MASH or other 70s shows for decades but I'm sure I'll get back to them one of these days. I remember not liking BJ Hunicutt as much as Trapper John, though I kept watching for quite a few years after that change.
The last few years I've been trying to sample more stuff that I haven't seen before - so I watched some Maverick, Peter Gunn, Paladin (actually I had seen that one - they must have played the re-runs when I was a kid), etc things from around that late-50s era. I also watched some 1980s things I'd missed at the time - e.g. Sapphire & Steele, Blake's 7, The Young Ones. I've enjoyed all of those.
Just recently I've begun to mix in a few re-watches from the early 1990s (X-Files, Seinfeld) but mainly I'm still doing shows that I've not seen until now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2024 7:44:39 GMT -5
berkley - The Young Ones is a surreal bit of genius, that aired as reruns on MTV when I was a teenager and has definitely stood the test of time for me. Back on comics, I think sometimes there's material that doesn't hold up for me less because my tastes have changed, but more it was something that had extra relevance to the period it came out in. Like Dark Knight Returns, being right there during those Reagan years when it came out, it had an edgy pulse on the world we were living in at the crescendo of the Cold War. I try to go back and revisit and there's certainly nostalgia, but it's never going to quite read the same again.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 3, 2024 9:25:28 GMT -5
I find with some stuff like Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen it's not so much they haven't aged well, but that others have done similar things that are just as good or better, so while at the time they were groundbreaking and innovative... now the uniqueness is gone. You can still appreciate it in its setting and as a groundbreaker, but the flaws sometime shine through more.
As far as TV goes, I watched a bit of Three's Company, Cheers and Night Court (my faves as a kid from after school re-runs on UHF) and watching them now, they are really terrible... so much so the nostalglia doesn't outweigh the terrible cliched (and often in bad taste) jokes and the wooden acting. I've stayed away since so as not to ruin any more fond memories.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Apr 3, 2024 10:03:38 GMT -5
Superfolks by Robert Mayer was a groundbreaking if flawed novel when it came out in 1977 ... now, so many better writers have learned from its use of tropes, that all that's left to it are dated references, bad prose, and unfunny attempts at humor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2024 10:12:48 GMT -5
Top Cow's Tomb Raider #1 was the best selling comic of 1999. It beat out both Marvel and DC. But it lost momentum fast. It didn't help that the first movie with Angelina Jolie was rubbish. Kinda sad really, she had such potential....
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 3, 2024 10:23:47 GMT -5
Not sure if you game or not, but I recently replayed through the first rebooted Tomb Raider game from 2013 and it still holds up. Like someone mentioned above about other entertainment media, a lot of games that have come around since then have imitated what Crystal Dynamics did with Tomb Raider. But I think they still did it best. (Besides who doesn't like listening to Camilla Ludddington. That British accent oh my.) The second installment of the TR trilogy was real good too. A much more involving story and they even upped the details of gun customization. If you do game and like third person shooters I would highly recommend them for at least one play through.
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Post by jason on Apr 3, 2024 15:20:11 GMT -5
When I was 12-13 I really dug the whole Death of Superman saga. Looking at it now it was basically one long fight scene stretched way too long. Now Funeral for a Friend and most of Reign of the Supermen still holds up (though it was pretty obvious that none of them were the real deal), but if you're reading the whole saga it takes too long to get to the "good stuff".
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