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Post by Action Ace on Nov 30, 2014 13:27:48 GMT -5
What if instead of cutting the size of the comic and keeping it a dime, they raised the price and comics kept a full magazine size?
What if Captain America was a DC Character? Would Wonder Woman have become Mrs. America at some point?
What if Wolfman and Perez never did New Teen Titans?
What if the original Image gang had been able to find someone to take proper editorial/ publisher command for them in the early 1990s?
What if the story "K-Metal from Krypton" had been allowed to stand?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 13:39:43 GMT -5
FANTASTIC FOUR CHANGE UP
Reed Richards - Became Mr. Invisible Instead
Susan Storm - Became The Female Thing Instead
Johnny Storm - Became Mr. Fantastic Instead
Ben Grimm - Became The Human Torch Instead
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 30, 2014 13:40:40 GMT -5
What if the original Image gang had been able to find someone to take proper editorial/ publisher command for them in the early 1990s? in short I think the term would be "the big three". Or the "big two" at the expense of Marvel or DC. But more realistically I think, having been a huge and heavy reader in the 90s, Image would be a bigger presence and a healthier competition against Marvel and DC. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Nov 30, 2014 14:07:17 GMT -5
oh thanks Phil! :-) Here I thought I knew something about comics you didn't and then you pulled my chain. Is any of these Atlas titles like Yellow Claw collected or is single issues the only way to go? Lol. You could fit what I know into a thimble, and still have room for a bull elephant or two. Sorry to pull your chain. It's just that I've been vocal about my love for Yellow Claw for some time here. No disrespect was intended. Yes, both Yellow Claw and The Black Knight have been collected in Masterworks format. I'd recommend them unless you're a hardcore purist. Putting together the four issues of YC in original comic book form took me six years. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Nov 30, 2014 14:34:02 GMT -5
What If Green Goblin has kidnapped and killed MJ instead of Gwen Stacy?
I have often wondered how keeping Gwen would have gone (I know there is already a What If about Gwen Stacy living which I NEED to find...is it any good). Would Spidey have been as distraught at losing MJ instead? Would Gwen and Peter have lasted? I have always felt that Gwen was the girlfriend that Peter needed but MJ is the one that Spider-Man needed.
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 30, 2014 14:41:26 GMT -5
What if the European Market was as important to Marvel & DC as it is to Bongo comics?
Not sure if you guys know, but the Simpson comic sells about 10 times as many copies or more of the German translation as of the original.
Would we have more adventures set in Paris and Düsseldorf and less in Manhattan and Queens? Would Excalibur still be running? Would the Global Guardians still guard and the Justice League still be International?
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Post by coke & comics on Nov 30, 2014 14:41:45 GMT -5
What if Jean Grey had stayed dead? Maybe Marvel would have one day learned to generate ideas again rather than endlessly cycling old ones. Eventually, SOMEONE would have brought her back after Shooter left. Too big a sales generator for someone without attachment to that original decision to pass up. Same reason Jason Todd came back after Denny O'Neil's tenure in the Bat Office ended. Hence the wording. What if she had STAYED dead? |
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 30, 2014 14:47:20 GMT -5
Eventually, SOMEONE would have brought her back after Shooter left. Too big a sales generator for someone without attachment to that original decision to pass up. Same reason Jason Todd came back after Denny O'Neil's tenure in the Bat Office ended. Hence the wording. What if she had STAYED dead? I'd be more interested in: What if they'd gone with the original plan to make her an irredeemable villain? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 15:01:23 GMT -5
What if the European Market was as important to Marvel & DC as it is to Bongo comics? Not sure if you guys know, but the Simpson comic sells about 10 times as many copies or more of the German translation as of the original. Would we have more adventures set in Paris and Düsseldorf and less in Manhattan and Queens? Would Excalibur still be running? Would the Global Guardians still guard and the Justice League still be International? I didn't know The Simpsons was still going. I loved that and Futurama. I never really thought about it, but I can think of one story taking place outside the US and even that was just the X-Men ending up in Japan after escaping Magneto's Antartica base. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 30, 2014 15:01:32 GMT -5
an excuse for Miller to write Batman as a grumpy asshole. So it's frustrating it get the notoriety it does for, in my opinion, being nothing but fan fiction. For the record, I totally concur. And as a massive fan of what Doug Moench under the editing of Len Wein was accomplishing prior to the reboot, I struggle with all that DKR did to the character and franchise, but Moench and Wein weren't making DC any money, so they were going to be let go anyway, and without a DKR to bring new sales and attention to the franchise, it would have been handed off to an endless barrage of B and C list creative teams and, when the 90s speculation era hit, I think DC would have done something even more extreme with the title than paralyzing and temporarily replacing Bruce. If the titles weren't doing any business, I could have seen them actually and permanently replacing Bruce with Azrael, much as Hal Jordan got replaced by Kyle Rayner. |
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 30, 2014 15:07:54 GMT -5
What if the European Market was as important to Marvel & DC as it is to Bongo comics? Not sure if you guys know, but the Simpson comic sells about 10 times as many copies or more of the German translation as of the original. Would we have more adventures set in Paris and Düsseldorf and less in Manhattan and Queens? Would Excalibur still be running? Would the Global Guardians still guard and the Justice League still be International? I didn't know The Simpsons was still going. I loved that and Futurama. I never really thought about it, but I can think of one story taking place outside the US and even that was just the X-Men ending up in Japan after escaping Magneto's Antartica base. Iron Man visited Berlin in the late 70s (I think) and they put a very Alpine mountain range right next to it, which I found hilarious. Also, didn't Need Leeds die in Berlin? |
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Post by coveredinbees on Nov 30, 2014 15:07:54 GMT -5
What if the Shi'Ar vacation on Thanagar?
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Post by shaxper on Nov 30, 2014 15:21:59 GMT -5
Eventually, SOMEONE would have brought her back after Shooter left. Too big a sales generator for someone without attachment to that original decision to pass up. Same reason Jason Todd came back after Denny O'Neil's tenure in the Bat Office ended. Hence the wording. What if she had STAYED dead? My point being that it's not a single "What if?" scenario. I could believe one EIC deciding to pass on a Jean Grey resurrection, but every single EIC after Shooter? It's quite a suspension of disbelief. There are no sacred cows at the Big Two. The 1990s proved that. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 30, 2014 15:21:59 GMT -5
oh thanks Phil! :-) Here I thought I knew something about comics you didn't and then you pulled my chain. Is any of these Atlas titles like Yellow Claw collected or is single issues the only way to go? Lol. You could fit what I know into a thimble, and still have room for a bull elephant or two. Sorry to pull your chain. It's just that I've been vocal about my love for Yellow Claw for some time here. No disrespect was intended. Yes, both Yellow Claw and The Black Knight have been collected in Masterworks format. I'd recommend them unless you're a hardcore purist. Putting together the four issues of YC in original comic book form took me six years. You didn't disrespect in any way Phil I was just joshing you. I have very little knowledge of comics pre 60s or so, and probably why I had never heard of Maneely's work. I will look out for the collections. Thank you for the information. I don't suppose Atlas' BK has any connection with Marvel's Avenger of the same name. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Nov 30, 2014 15:56:56 GMT -5
You didn't disrespect in any way Phil I was just joshing you. I have very little knowledge of comics pre 60s or so, and probably why I had never heard of Maneely's work. I will look out for the collections. Thank you for the information. I don't suppose Atlas' BK has any connection with Marvel's Avenger of the same name. You're very kind. I struggle with the independents from the late-70s on, and comics in general past about 1998 or so. Maybe we can help each other out.  You seem to have a strong grasp on modern output. The Marvel (Avengers) Black Knight is the nephew of a villainous version of the original, created by Stan Lee and Dick Ayers. From what I can tell, there is a fourth Black Knight, whose origins are unknown, and who was introduced a decade ago in Black Panther #3, with art by JR Jr. |
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You seem to have a strong grasp on modern output.