|
|
Post by berkley on Feb 27, 2015 19:46:05 GMT -5
Yeah. Looks more like Byrne doing Byrne-esque. I don't see much of Kirby in that apart from the costume design. Maybe Galactus is a bit more stocky than Byrne would normally draw him, that's about it.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 20:23:22 GMT -5
Simon Garth, Badwolf, and Berk - You guys are right. I paid $9.00 that's includes free shipping for that poster. I'm going to write a letter of complaint to that company that sold this to me and get my money back. I will eventually delete this picture in 3-4 weeks from now. Thanks for the clarification.
|
|
|
|
Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 27, 2015 20:24:46 GMT -5
Galactus Poster by Jack Kirby It's measured 3.5' x 7' - and it's a keeper. I had a hard time getting uploaded to my Imgur Account. Is that actually Kirby? That looks to me like John Byrne doing Kirby-esque. The face is really Byrnish, and the muscles look much more like Byrne than Kirby, particularly the arms and chest. Ohhhh yeah. You can really tell from the face, huh? |
|
|
|
Post by berkley on Feb 27, 2015 21:47:16 GMT -5
Is that actually Kirby? That looks to me like John Byrne doing Kirby-esque. The face is really Byrnish, and the muscles look much more like Byrne than Kirby, particularly the arms and chest. Ohhhh yeah. You can really tell from the face, huh? The mouth gives it away - classic Byrne. To be honest, the musculature just looks to me like generic Marvel superhero style of the era - could have been Sal Buscema for all I could tell if it wasn't for the face. Definitely not Kirby, though. |
|
|
|
Post by badwolf on Feb 27, 2015 22:00:21 GMT -5
It's from the Official Handbook. Byrne was on the FF at the time so he drew most of the FF-related characters.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 4:31:59 GMT -5
Ohhhh yeah. You can really tell from the face, huh? The mouth gives it away - classic Byrne. To be honest, the musculature just looks to me like generic Marvel superhero style of the era - could have been Sal Buscema for all I could tell if it wasn't for the face. Definitely not Kirby, though. Yep, it was the mouth that was the first thing I saw. The comment about the muscles wasn't so much "that's definitely Byrne" as "that's definitely not Kirby", though the weirdly shaped chest muscles and the biceps being drawn too far into the elbow (especially the left one) are Byrne tropes as well. |
|
shaxper
CCF Site Custodian
Posts: 22,871
|
Post by shaxper on Mar 1, 2015 9:56:36 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 17:46:43 GMT -5
Here's an interesting test of anatomy: see if you can adopt the pose shown for the short-haired woman in the last panel, but without dislocating your right wrist.
|
|
|
|
Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 2, 2015 18:23:17 GMT -5
Here's an interesting test of anatomy: see if you can adopt the pose shown for the short-haired woman in the last panel, but without dislocating your right wrist. I could. What do I win? |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 19:02:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I can too for what it's worth. It's not comfortable by any means, but doable.
-M
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 9:09:50 GMT -5
Here's an interesting test of anatomy: see if you can adopt the pose shown for the short-haired woman in the last panel, but without dislocating your right wrist. I could. What do I win? A free course of reconstructive joint surgery |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 9:27:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I can too for what it's worth. It's not comfortable by any means, but doable. -M That's pretty much my point - it's supposed to be a relaxed pose, but is actually extremely uncomfortable. Looking through those panels (which are pretty nice, actually), there's something a bit odd about the arms - a bit too long, a bit too bendy |
|
|
|
Post by berkley on Mar 3, 2015 10:34:12 GMT -5
Most comics art is impressionistic rather than realistic - and that goes even for those comics artists we usually think of as realistic. Neal Adams, Gene Colan, and many others all distort anatomy from time to time, sometimes deliberately and for a specific effect, sometimes because of a general looseness and thinking about the overall impression rather than details, sometimes because it's become part of their style. Kirby's characters' hands are often sketched, for example - the suggestion of a hand rather than a well-delineated reproduction. I believe he did sometimes did give his female characters long, graceful arms to convey beauty and sensuality. Sounds odd - we're more used to seeing the legs elongated to portray an attractive female - but it actually works:   |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 10:48:21 GMT -5
Most comics art is impressionistic rather than realistic - and that goes even for those comics artists we usually think of as realistic. Neal Adams, Gene Colan, and many others all distort anatomy from time to time, sometimes deliberately and for a specific effect, sometimes because of a general looseness and thinking about the overall impression rather than details, sometimes because it's become part of their style. Kirby's characters' hands are often sketched, for example - the suggestion of a hand rather than a well-delineated reproduction. I believe he did sometimes did give his female characters long, graceful arms to convey beauty and sensuality. Sounds odd - we're more used to seeing the legs elongated to portray an attractive female - but it actually works: I don't disagree with what you're saying, up to a point. However, I find that when it gets exaggerated just a little too much, I find it really jarring - in the sense that I can see that there's something wrong with the picture and then I have to examine it in more detail to see what's wrong, rather than absorbing the gestalt of the story and art. That arm did it for me, and the Karnilla hands and the Hawkeye picture earlier in the thread. It's one of the things that always bugs me about Kirby's art, and one of the many things I loathe about Adams' art. |
|
|
|
Post by berkley on Mar 3, 2015 16:00:34 GMT -5
Oh yeah, there are definitely moments when my favourite artists - including Kirby and Colan - do something along those lines that just jars on me. But I've probably been desensitised to it to a large degree, so most of the time it looks "normal" to me, for that artist.
|
|
