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Post by zaku on Apr 30, 2024 14:05:54 GMT -5
I don't have the time to prove otherwise right now, but there were definitely numerous cover homages, at the very least: the race with The Flash, one during the Exile storyline, and (I believe) several others as well. Yeah, I think they were just trying to distance themselves from aspects that had aged worse in the 90s. But the homages were fine. I mean, he's still Superman! You can change the myth up to a certain point.
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Post by zaku on Apr 27, 2024 14:08:31 GMT -5
I know Image changed a kiss between Sarah Rainmaker and another girl at the last minute in the early/mid 90s. I'm not sure if the CCA would find it a problem, but the publishers may not have wanted to take the chance. Uh, Image submitted their comics to the CCA?
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Post by zaku on Apr 27, 2024 12:57:33 GMT -5
I guess so, all the ones mentioned so far are post dropping the CCA in 2001. Maybe something in Marvel UK before? They had a bit more leeway, but nothing I could find so far. I suppose for the CCA same-sex kissing was like drugs: it wasn't explicitly forbidden but they still wouldn't allow it.
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Post by zaku on Apr 27, 2024 10:40:46 GMT -5
I know Moondragon and Marlo Chandler kissed in Captain Marvel back in 2002, so that's at least before Deadly Origin. I know also that Mystique kissed a woman in her solo-series by B.K. Vaughn, but I think that was after that. (Quick check: 2003) Virtually every source I found says that same-sex kisses in regular Marvel comics (so no GN or similar) happened only after 2000. So, they were still worried about CCA before that..?
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Post by zaku on Apr 27, 2024 8:50:58 GMT -5
I think someone here mentioned a Graphic Novel with Black Widow but I'm not sure... This could be referring to the old Golden Age Black Widow (Claire Voyant). In his 2008 mini-series The Twelve, J. Michael Straczinsky retconned her to be a lesbian and there were definitely scenes depicting her kissing another woman. Maybe that was the first time Marvel showed a lesbian kiss? Although 2008 sounds a bit late for that, but then again, maybe not. I think this one marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Daredevil/Black_Widow:_Abattoir_Vol_1_11993
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Post by zaku on Apr 27, 2024 7:06:27 GMT -5
I tried asking ChatGPT this question and of course it answered rubbish. What was the first kiss between two women in a Marvel comic (I mean set in the Marvel universe)? I think someone here mentioned a Graphic Novel with Black Widow but I'm not sure... I believe Victoria Montessi was Marvel's first openly lesbian character. I'm trying to remember if she is shown kissing another woman in Darkhold, but most of my comic collection is in storage at the moment so I can't check. Perhaps someone else can. You know, Google is great for telling in which issue a certain character came out, but not for when there was the first public display of affection. In some ways I think it's equally important. Straight superheroes have been kissing damsels in distress forever.
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Post by zaku on Apr 27, 2024 5:39:15 GMT -5
This is gold
Me: In the Marvel Universe, who killer Hitler?
ChatGPT: In the Marvel Universe, Adolf Hitler was killed by the superhero team known as the Invaders during World War II. The specific issue where this event occurs is "The Invaders" #35, published in 1978. In this story, Hitler is assassinated by a time-traveling superhero named Union Jack, who is a member of the Invaders.
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Post by zaku on Apr 27, 2024 5:03:53 GMT -5
Anyway, Th Watcher drones on about The Human Torch and Toro leading the Allied vanguard into Berlin and burning his way into the Fuhrerbunker, where Eva Braun has already poisoned herself and Adolf Hitler has a Luger pointed at his head, despite it being Walther PPK, based on eyewitness testimony of the body and the pistol laying at Hitler's feet. Hitler goes for a detonation switch, for some doomsday weapon and Torch flames him in the face and body and der Fuhrer becomes a charcoal briquet. For curiosity I googled "Human Torch kills Hitler" and, it has to be one of the most re-drawn scenes ever. I wonder, is this a well-known thing in the Marvel Universe that is studied in schools or a little secret passed down in the super-hero community..?
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Post by zaku on Apr 27, 2024 4:05:13 GMT -5
Not a bad response....
What is the Rags comic about? ChatGPT
"Rags" is a comic book series created by Trent Luther and Brian Ball, with art by Luigi Teruel. It follows the story of a young woman named Regina "Rags" O'Neal who finds herself in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. However, unlike typical zombie stories, "Rags" focuses more on the character development and survival aspect rather than just the horror elements.
Regina, a military veteran, navigates through the chaos armed with her wits, training, and a sarcastic sense of humor. Along the way, she encounters various challenges, meets other survivors, and forms alliances. The series delves into themes of resilience, camaraderie, and the human spirit in the face of adversity.
"Rags" gained attention not only for its compelling story but also for its realistic portrayal of a female protagonist in a survivalist role. It received praise for its strong writing, dynamic characters, and detailed artwork.
Interesting. In this case I think the fact that it is made up of relatively few issues released and that it is not part of some universe worked in its favor.
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Post by zaku on Apr 26, 2024 6:03:16 GMT -5
huh... you're right... I just tried a few random things and the answers are all good. interesting I wonder if there are other knowledge gaps, or just comics? It's absolutely awful about old French songs. I'd say that any material that is not very present on the internet (even if it's common in printed material) won't give ChatGPT enough ammo to come to a satisfactory conclusion about what word should be next in its answer. Yeah, a good example is Avenger #200. There is a lot of material about it, even on Wikipedia, so it gives a good summary and analysis of it. But you ask about #201? Pure hallucination.
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Post by zaku on Apr 26, 2024 2:47:04 GMT -5
huh... you're right... I just tried a few random things and the answers are all good. interesting I wonder if there are other knowledge gaps, or just comics? If you think about it, it's not easy to create a comprehensive knowledge of comics using only the internet. For example, for movies you have IMDB or Wikipedia. But there is no site that has detailed summaries of all the comics released. Marvel Wiki and DC Wiki also have various holes. I think simply the sheer volume of superhero comics that exist is also a factor.
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Post by zaku on Apr 25, 2024 18:20:29 GMT -5
What I wonder is.. how is it so bad at facts? Like, is there that many people jus making stuff up on the internet that it's coming from? It's quite good when it comes to historical or scientific facts, or whether it's books or movies. My suspicion is on the authoritativeness of the sources. Somehow it was "explained" to it that one source is more reliable than the other (for example, flat earthers are not on the same level as those who say the Earth is round). But for some reason it hasn't been done as far as the comics go, so all the material that has been "fed" for it is all valid, even things that conflict with each other.
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Post by zaku on Apr 25, 2024 5:29:35 GMT -5
I tried asking ChatGPT this question and of course it answered rubbish. What was the first kiss between two women in a Marvel comic (I mean set in the Marvel universe)? I think someone here mentioned a Graphic Novel with Black Widow but I'm not sure...
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Post by zaku on Apr 25, 2024 5:27:52 GMT -5
ME:When did the first kiss between two women happen in a Marvel comic? ChatGPT:The first kiss between two women in a Marvel comic occurred in "Astonishing X-Men" #51, published in 2012. The kiss was between the characters Karolina Dean (also known as Lucy in the Sky) and Xavin. Karolina Dean is a member of the superhero team known as the Runaways, and Xavin is a Skrull shapeshifter who can change their gender. This moment was significant as it depicted a same-sex kiss in a Marvel comic, marking a step forward in LGBTQ+ representation in mainstream superhero comics. This is "Astonishing X-Men" #51 by the way.
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Post by zaku on Apr 25, 2024 3:54:28 GMT -5
I know nothing about technology, but could the speed with which it answers means it conflates unrelated things and gives an inaccurate answer? Would an AI that gives you an answer within ten minutes, after trawling through pages, be more accurate? I know technology is wonderful, but ChatGPT gives you answers within a nanosecond, is that enough time for even an AI to be accurate? ChatGPT does not go out to read new information when you ask it something. Rather, it has already been trained on all the available text on the Internet, including copyrighted sources, and including this very forum. It is simply telling you what it remembers. So be nice; it may hold a grudge when it runs the world.
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