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Post by berkley on Jun 18, 2015 18:13:49 GMT -5
Coming from Fantagraphics, Wally Wood's ShattuckAnyone read this Wally Wood feature before? First I've heard of it. I'm a big fan of Wally Wood's artwork, but the few online samples I found looked a little pedestrian to me, by his standards. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of westerns, so that might be part of it. |
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Post by benday-dot on Jun 18, 2015 19:58:14 GMT -5
Coming from Fantagraphics, Wally Wood's ShattuckAnyone read this Wally Wood feature before? First I've heard of it. I'm a big fan of Wally Wood's artwork, but the few online samples I found looked a little pedestrian to me, by his standards. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of westerns, so that might be part of it. i only heard of it in the last few days as well. I do agree that the few images accompanying the solicits don't appear to represent Wood's finest hour. I own his Cannon collection (also by FB), and found that to be a bit sub-par as well. His Sally Forth work (his third sexy strip if you will) however, which I also have, I think was pretty top notch. But, I'll take a look at Shattuck when it comes out for sure. |
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Post by berkley on Jun 18, 2015 20:29:53 GMT -5
Coming from Fantagraphics, Wally Wood's ShattuckAnyone read this Wally Wood feature before? First I've heard of it. I'm a big fan of Wally Wood's artwork, but the few online samples I found looked a little pedestrian to me, by his standards. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of westerns, so that might be part of it. i only heard of it in the last few days as well. I do agree that the few images accompanying the solicits don't appear to represent Wood's finest hour. I own his Cannon collection (also by FB), and found that to be a bit sub-par as well. His Sally Forth work (his third sexy strip if you will) however, which I also have, I think was pretty top notch. But, I'll take a look at Shattuck when it comes out for sure. I like Cannon, though the quality does decline a bit after the opening one or two story sequences. Not Wood's best artwork, and certainly lacking in detail compared to, for example, some of the shorter, one-off stories he did for the Warren mags, but still an enjoyable piece of cold-war craziness. |
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Post by DubipR on Jun 18, 2015 20:40:14 GMT -5
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 18, 2015 22:16:21 GMT -5
i only heard of it in the last few days as well. I do agree that the few images accompanying the solicits don't appear to represent Wood's finest hour. I own his Cannon collection (also by FB), and found that to be a bit sub-par as well. His Sally Forth work (his third sexy strip if you will) however, which I also have, I think was pretty top notch. But, I'll take a look at Shattuck when it comes out for sure. I like Cannon, though the quality does decline a bit after the opening one or two story sequences. Not Wood's best artwork, and certainly lacking in detail compared to, for example, some of the shorter, one-off stories he did for the Warren mags, but still an enjoyable piece of cold-war craziness. By 1972, Woody was in the beginning of his decline. He was struggling with alcoholism and he started having serious kidney troubles that continued until his death. His work from the early 70s to his death was incredibly spotty and the quality depended greatly on how interested he was in the work and who was assisting him. |
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Post by berkley on Jun 18, 2015 23:36:49 GMT -5
I like Cannon, though the quality does decline a bit after the opening one or two story sequences. Not Wood's best artwork, and certainly lacking in detail compared to, for example, some of the shorter, one-off stories he did for the Warren mags, but still an enjoyable piece of cold-war craziness. By 1972, Woody was in the beginning of his decline. He was struggling with alcoholism and he started having serious kidney troubles that continued until his death. His work from the early 70s to his death was incredibly spotty and the quality depended greatly on how interested he was in the work and who was assisting him. It's a sad story. In my personal worldview, based purely on the amount of pleasure they've given me as a reader, comics artists like Wally Wood should have been as rich and famous as, say, my favourite pop music stars. Well, the ones that were rich & famous, I mean - since as I type the above I remember that not every musician has received the acclaim and material success their talent warranted either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 1:19:16 GMT -5
Coming from Fantagraphics, Wally Wood's ShattuckAnyone read this Wally Wood feature before? First I've heard of it. I'm a big fan of Wally Wood's artwork, but the few online samples I found looked a little pedestrian to me, by his standards. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of westerns, so that might be part of it. i only heard of it in the last few days as well. I do agree that the few images accompanying the solicits don't appear to represent Wood's finest hour. I own his Cannon collection (also by FB), and found that to be a bit sub-par as well. His Sally Forth work (his third sexy strip if you will) however, which I also have, I think was pretty top notch. But, I'll take a look at Shattuck when it comes out for sure. The strip nature of Cannon is it's only pitfall in my opinion. I love the art in it. This western looks similar to Cannon. I think his strips were probably purposefully done in a different style than his long form comics. I'm interested though. I don't have the Cannon HC yet, but I have the four treasuries. Also all the Sally Forth ones too. Do the books contain more than what appears in those? Also, Cannon was my first exposure to Wally Wood. I instantly became a huge fan. I agree it's not his most detailed work, but I thought the quality was quite apparent. Like many artists though, his covers seem to be my favorite, and he's done some really great stuff with EC. But comparing Wood to Wood is nitpicking. Comparing Wood to many of his contemporaries, he's still a champ. |
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Post by berkley on Jun 19, 2015 16:50:09 GMT -5
That looks good. When I first started looking for back issues of the Warren mags a few years ago, I meant to stick to Eerie and Creepy, but after realising that a lot of my favourite artists, like Esteban Maroto and Gonzalo Mayo, had also done work for Vampirella I tried a few of those as well and was surprised at how consistently strong the artwork was in the main Vampirella feature story each issue - and of course it was Jose Gonzales who provided the artwork for most of those stories. |
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Post by berkley on Jun 19, 2015 16:52:55 GMT -5
i only heard of it in the last few days as well. I do agree that the few images accompanying the solicits don't appear to represent Wood's finest hour. I own his Cannon collection (also by FB), and found that to be a bit sub-par as well. His Sally Forth work (his third sexy strip if you will) however, which I also have, I think was pretty top notch. But, I'll take a look at Shattuck when it comes out for sure. The strip nature of Cannon is it's only pitfall in my opinion. I love the art in it. This western looks similar to Cannon. I think his strips were probably purposefully done in a different style than his long form comics. I'm interested though. I don't have the Cannon HC yet, but I have the four treasuries. Also all the Sally Forth ones too. Do the books contain more than what appears in those? Also, Cannon was my first exposure to Wally Wood. I instantly became a huge fan. I agree it's not his most detailed work, but I thought the quality was quite apparent. Like many artists though, his covers seem to be my favorite, and he's done some really great stuff with EC. But comparing Wood to Wood is nitpicking. Comparing Wood to many of his contemporaries, he's still a champ. Oh yeah, I still like the artwork in Cannon, even though I don't think it's up there with his very best stuff. It's still totally recognisable as Wally Wood, and that's always a good thing, in my book. I read Cannon in separate comics book reprints that came out in the 90s sometime. I do have a collection that came out later but it's buried under some stack or on some shelf I can't get to right now, so I'm not what if any extras are in it. Same with the Sally Forth book. |
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Post by benday-dot on Jun 19, 2015 20:06:15 GMT -5
I just dug out my Cannon book again, and feel I should modify my thoughts a little. As Slam says, it really does depend on the array assistants Woody had working for him (while I suppose he hopped outside his Connecticut country house to squeeze off a few rounds from his M-16), but overall it looks better than I remembered. Not that I've owned the book for years of course, but who was I kidding, there is some very nice drawing in there. Not the best Wood, but yeah not bad at all.
And I'd also forgotten that Woody drew himself into Cannon. Anybody who has the volume check out the recurring character of O'Hara. Page 202 is a dead ringer.
Also looking forward to that Gonzalez book. Gonzalez really improved as the mag got along, although I still think I might like his temporary replacement Gonzalo Mayo just as much.
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Post by MDG on Jun 22, 2015 11:19:43 GMT -5
I'd love if they did this with Madhouse or Bats. |
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Post by MDG on Jun 22, 2015 11:25:38 GMT -5
It's a sad story. In my personal worldview, based purely on the amount of pleasure they've given me as a reader, comics artists like Wally Wood should have been as rich and famous as, say, my favourite pop music stars. Well, the ones that were rich & famous, I mean - since as I type the above I remember that not every musician has received the acclaim and material success their talent warranted either. I recently read Bill Schelly's excellent bio of Harvey Kurtzman and was dismayed--though not really surprised--how so often throughout his career his main concern was where his next paycheck would be coming from. www.amazon.com/Harvey-Kurtzman-Created-Revolutionized-America/dp/1606997610/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y |
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Post by MatthewP on Jun 23, 2015 18:15:28 GMT -5
I just learned of a recently released book which I'll have to get: The League of Regrettable Superheroes. It appears to be an amusing look at 100 odd superheroes which were not particularly successful for one reason or another, with entries from the Golden Age up to Modern. I do have to wonder at some of the choices though, as the table of contents includes ROM, Spaceknight, which had a respectable 75 issue run, and Squirrel Girl, who seems pretty popular right now. And sorry (or congratulations?) Dan, Brother Power the Geek is in the book. |
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Post by Rob Allen on Jun 23, 2015 18:21:35 GMT -5
I think the author of that book has (or had) a website called "Gone and Forgotten", about the sillier superheroes of the past. That site helped get me back into the comics-fan world about 15-17 years ago. |
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Post by benday-dot on Jun 23, 2015 21:10:32 GMT -5
I just learned of a recently released book which I'll have to get: The League of Regrettable Superheroes. It appears to be an amusing look at 100 odd superheroes which were not particularly successful for one reason or another, with entries from the Golden Age up to Modern. I do have to wonder at some of the choices though, as the table of contents includes ROM, Spaceknight, which had a respectable 75 issue run, and Squirrel Girl, who seems pretty popular right now. And sorry (or congratulations?) Dan, Brother Power the Geek is in the book. i had a chance to have a good look through this book a couple weeks ago. It's a lot of fun and well laid out, with pretty attractive production values. I didn't buy it, but may yet some day. I'm not sure if it has much information value beyond the fun aspect, but it may not matter with a book like this. |
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