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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 15:18:47 GMT -5
The only digital sales model that works for me currently is the subscription model. Pay a set fee, read as much as you want. I do currently have a subscription to Thrillbent that costs me $3.99 a month, but I can reads as much, or as little of the content I want each month. There are 5-6 series that I am interested enough to read, many of which have weekly installments, but I tend to sign on 1 or 2 times a month and binge read them all, but I am currently behind on all of them. I might consider the Marvel Unlimited model as well, now that I am not reading/buying newstuff off the stands, as the 6 month lag time wouldn't bother me anymore, but I just don't have enough interest in current Marvel books to step up and plunk down the money, and I already have a large chunk of the classic stuff I would want to read with it, so not enough incentive currently to do it. We will see though, I keep getting really good deal offers for it in my e-mail form Marvel as I am signed up for the Pulse newsletter, so one of these days I may take the plunge. -M I just checked out Marvel Unlimited. For whatever reason, either I'm not seeing it, or it's not there, I cannot really find how it's any cheaper to join that than just buy the digital comics from Comixology. It's $9.99 a month, but you still have to pay $3.99 per digital copy? That's not a deal, imo. Is the benefit being that one would get early access to any possible sales and a bunch of junk mail from MU? You can stream 15000 Marvel comics for your monthly (or yearly) subscription, you don't pay per issue, unless you are additionally buying something from the last 6 months that hasn't been added to the Unlimited yet. There is a 6 month or so lag time between the release of books and when they are available from Unlimited, so if you are buying them as they come out, the Unlimited is not really going to work for you, but if you wait the 6 months, you do not pay anything beyond your subscription fee. In addition you can download and store up to 15 books at a time on a device to read offline. So pay $9.99 a month and you can read 1, 2, 7, or 100 comics of those available for the same price. But if you want to read the Marvel books as they come out each Wednesday, then Unlimited is not for you because Unlimited does not cover new releases. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 15:26:11 GMT -5
I just checked out Marvel Unlimited. For whatever reason, either I'm not seeing it, or it's not there, I cannot really find how it's any cheaper to join that than just buy the digital comics from Comixology. It's $9.99 a month, but you still have to pay $3.99 per digital copy? That's not a deal, imo. Is the benefit being that one would get early access to any possible sales and a bunch of junk mail from MU? You can stream 15000 Marvel comics for your monthly (or yearly) subscription, you don't pay per issue, unless you are additionally buying something from the last 6 months that hasn't been added to the Unlimited yet. There is a 6 month or so lag time between the release of books and when they are available from Unlimited, so if you are buying them as they come out, the Unlimited is not really going to work for you, but if you wait the 6 months, you do not pay anything beyond your subscription fee. In addition you can download and store up to 15 books at a time on a device to read offline. So pay $9.99 a month and you can read 1, 2, 7, or 100 comics of those available for the same price. But if you want to read the Marvel books as they come out each Wednesday, then Unlimited is not for you because Unlimited does not cover new releases. -M Thank you very much. This clears up any confusion I had. I would want digital for current comics, so this would not work for me.  |
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Post by the4thpip on Mar 22, 2015 15:29:34 GMT -5
I just binge-read 6 months worth of Archer and Armstrong and really enjoyed it. Especially the part when an aged Jim Morrison of the Doors shoots a Justin Bieber stand-in in the head in front of his concert audience. |
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Post by The Cheat on Mar 22, 2015 17:16:10 GMT -5
I just binge-read 6 months worth of Archer and Armstrong and really enjoyed it. Especially the part when an aged Jim Morrison of the Doors shoots a Justin Bieber stand-in in the head in front of his concert audience. Just getting back into Valiant myself. Ultimately, they lack the nostalgia thrill I get from the big 2 (well, just Marvel now) superhero comics, but they're very solid nevertheless. |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Mar 22, 2015 18:57:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure how many of you are reading Walt Simonson's Ragnarok, but if you're not, you really should be. This is easily the best thing he's done (in terms of ongoing series) since Orion.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 22, 2015 21:26:14 GMT -5
Also: When I went to pick up my books, I decided to check out Spider-Gwen. I got #2, but they said that #1 sold out as quickly as they got them in. Lone Star doesn't even have a #1 for a price I'm willing to pay. Wtf. Yea Spider-Gwen very popular at the moment. Why?!  I don't understand the popularity...it sounds like a joke book that some bored fan came up with one rainy afternoon. Can someone esplain why it's so popular without revealing any spoilers for Spider-Verse? I'm currently waiting for the Spider-Verse epilogue issue to be delivered this week and then I'm gonna read the whole thing. Thanks! |
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Mar 22, 2015 22:39:21 GMT -5
Yea Spider-Gwen very popular at the moment. Why?! I don't understand the popularity...it sounds like a joke book that some bored fan came up with one rainy afternoon. Can someone esplain why it's so popular without revealing any spoilers for Spider-Verse? I'm currently waiting for the Spider-Verse epilogue issue to be delivered this week and then I'm gonna read the whole thing. Thanks! It's alternate reality Gwen Stacy being Spider-Girl. |
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Post by Confessor on Mar 22, 2015 22:47:02 GMT -5
Why?! I don't understand the popularity...it sounds like a joke book that some bored fan came up with one rainy afternoon. Can someone esplain why it's so popular without revealing any spoilers for Spider-Verse? I'm currently waiting for the Spider-Verse epilogue issue to be delivered this week and then I'm gonna read the whole thing. Thanks! It's alternate reality Gwen Stacy being Spider-Girl. Thanks for that, COH, but I'm still not seeing why that's a compelling character for folks to go crazy about. Mind you, I was never much of an "alternate reality" kinda guy and I've never been into Spider-Girl either. I guess it might all be in the writing and the artwork though, but as a basic concept, the popularity that Spider-Gwen is enjoying is a bit of a head-scratcher for me. |
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Mar 22, 2015 22:58:52 GMT -5
It's alternate reality Gwen Stacy being Spider-Girl. Thanks for that, COH, but I'm still not seeing why that's a compelling character for folks to go crazy about. Mind you, I was never much of an "alternate reality" kinda guy and I've never been into Spider-Girl either. I guess it might all be in the writing and the artwork though, but as a basic concept, the popularity that Spider-Gwen is enjoying is a bit of a head-scratcher for me. People like Gwen Stacy and they especially like the idea of her being a superhero. I don't really get it either but there it is. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 23:00:54 GMT -5
Strong young female leads (Saga, Ms. Marvel, the Batgirl of Burnside, etc.) are catching on and bringing in a non-traditional audience to comics, and selling beyond expectations. In response, the old school traditional audience of speculators is snapping up the books trying to cash in on the new wave of readers, who unfortunately for speculators are just as content with a trade, digital copy, or later printing as long as they can read the story, so the books get snapped up, print runs sell out prices rise, the new customers coming still get their copies through alternate means, and old school comics fans who want to check it out and want first print print copies are stuck paying the inflated prices. The demand is there, but a lot of it is from outside the traditional core of comic fans, a new wave/generation characterized by things like the Carol Corps that Kelly Sue DeConnick's run on Capt. Marvel inspired, and this is a good thing as it brings new blood into a stale industry, and the perk imo is that these books are focusing on character, story and storytelling for the most part, as that is what is drawing these new fans in, not history, continuity, formulaic storytelling techniques that were stale decades ago and that we have seen countless times to the point they are incapable of surprising us unless they go for shock value then undo it all a month later because the old guard doesn't want real change. It feels like a breath of fresh air in mainstream super-hero for the first time since the innovations of the Silver Age and the Bronze Age changed the way stories were told during their respective times. I don't want comics that are a pale imitation of comics I loved as a kid, I want comics that excite me with new discoveries as much as the ones I encountered as a kid did. For many new readers, books like Spider Gwen are providing that.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 22, 2015 23:15:14 GMT -5
People like Gwen Stacy and they especially like the idea of her being a superhero. I don't really get it either but there it is. Hmmm....yeah, it's a weird one. Anyway, thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 1:10:18 GMT -5
Strong young female leads (Saga, Ms. Marvel, the Batgirl of Burnside, etc.) are catching on and bringing in a non-traditional audience to comics, and selling beyond expectations. In response, the old school traditional audience of speculators is snapping up the books trying to cash in on the new wave of readers, who unfortunately for speculators are just as content with a trade, digital copy, or later printing as long as they can read the story, so the books get snapped up, print runs sell out prices rise, the new customers coming still get their copies through alternate means, and old school comics fans who want to check it out and want first print print copies are stuck paying the inflated prices. The demand is there, but a lot of it is from outside the traditional core of comic fans, a new wave/generation characterized by things like the Carol Corps that Kelly Sue DeConnick's run on Capt. Marvel inspired, and this is a good thing as it brings new blood into a stale industry, and the perk imo is that these books are focusing on character, story and storytelling for the most part, as that is what is drawing these new fans in, not history, continuity, formulaic storytelling techniques that were stale decades ago and that we have seen countless times to the point they are incapable of surprising us unless they go for shock value then undo it all a month later because the old guard doesn't want real change. It feels like a breath of fresh air in mainstream super-hero for the first time since the innovations of the Silver Age and the Bronze Age changed the way stories were told during their respective times. I don't want comics that are a pale imitation of comics I loved as a kid, I want comics that excite me with new discoveries as much as the ones I encountered as a kid did. For many new readers, books like Spider Gwen are providing that. -M A perfect explanation |
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Post by the4thpip on Mar 23, 2015 2:00:49 GMT -5
I guess that means the new, female Prez at DC is gonna be a big hit.
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Post by Spike-X on Mar 23, 2015 2:04:45 GMT -5
I have a simpler explanation - she's a cool character, and the stories so far (especially the one that introduced her) have been pretty damn good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 2:23:34 GMT -5
I guess that means the new, female Prez at DC is gonna be a big hit. Possibly, but not every young female lead has succeeded recently. The quality of the story/art has to back up the promise of the series people see in it. There have been hits, but plenty of misses, but the hits do keep coming. As Spike said, so far Spider-Gwen has been good. Will Prez be good? Who knows. We'll have to wait and see. And even the series that have captured the audience haven't always had good Diamond numbers to show for it as they have caught on via digital and trades, etc. Marvel seems a little more willing to let a series run 12 issues to see if it catches an audience before cancelling, while DC seems to cut bait at 7 or 8 these days, which means based on their current trade practices, DC cancels books before the first trade hits (or is even solicited), and Marvel usually has at least 1 trade out and a second solicited before they cancel to see if the book may catch on there, which gives Marvel series a little more time to grow their audience via word of mouth. Spider-Gwen was also introduced in one of the better selling titles of the line (Amazing Spider-Man) while Prez is starting cold with a number one (and possibly an 8 page preview story on line somewhere-which is something new DC is trying post-Convergence). SO it may have a harder time finding that audience in time to gain the sales it needs to survive the 8 issue cutoff DC seems to have. -M |
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I don't understand the popularity...it sounds like a joke book that some bored fan came up with one rainy afternoon. Can someone esplain why it's so popular without revealing any spoilers for Spider-Verse? I'm currently waiting for the Spider-Verse epilogue issue to be delivered this week and then I'm gonna read the whole thing. Thanks!
