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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 12:27:02 GMT -5
The preview for Archie comics horror-themed Sabrina has a great Rosemary's baby feel to it. I don't know where they'll be going with it but it's a very unexpected twist on the concept! Pretty good art, too. Can you link me to the preview please?  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 11, 2014 12:31:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 12:46:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. Looks good, I think I'll add it to the list.
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Post by the4thpip on Jul 12, 2014 13:15:49 GMT -5
I assume that's the last issue. They had some good stuff. Yeah, that is the final issue I never got because Diamond decided that month that smaller indie titles did not matter. And Tony signed it, too. |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 12, 2014 13:19:27 GMT -5
Well, I FINALLY read the first seven issues of the Snyder/Capullo Batman series. I enjoyed it, and the art was fantastic, but the Court of Owl thing is something I simply had to shrug my shoulders at and go with as a reader. It does fly in the face of everything we know about modern Batman. Sure, it's easy to accept the idea of a national or global secret organization hiding itself from Batman...but one based in Gotham? My only guess is that the New52 Batman is supposed to be younger and less experienced than Post-Crisis Batman; he's not as omniscient when it comes to Gotham.
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Post by Randle-El on Jul 12, 2014 14:18:05 GMT -5
Well, I FINALLY read the first seven issues of the Snyder/Capullo Batman series. I enjoyed it, and the art was fantastic, but the Court of Owl thing is something I simply had to shrug my shoulders at and go with as a reader. It does fly in the face of everything we know about modern Batman. Sure, it's easy to accept the idea of a national or global secret organization hiding itself from Batman...but one based in Gotham? My only guess is that the New52 Batman is supposed to be younger and less experienced than Post-Crisis Batman; he's not as omniscient when it comes to Gotham. I think new52 is supposed to have started just as the heroes were starting to appear, so they are all supposed to be younger and less experienced. Court of Owls is the kind of story that only has a chance of working when they've just rebooted the universe and the heroes are supposed to be younger. A secret society operating in Gotham all these years would have been too much of a pill to swallow pre-new52. Besides, I think they gave an in-story reason why Bruce dismissed their existence (his previous investigation of them). The story also works better if Batman is a little too self-assured and then gets knocked down a peg or two. All of that said... they made a mess of Batman's history with the new52 reboot. The heroes are supposed to be younger and less experienced at the start of new52 so that they could give them fresh histories and not be burdened by continuity. But they couldn't completely reset Batman because his history is tied to the origin of so many other characters who have their own books -- Batgirl, Nightwing, Robin(s), etc. In order to hit the ground running with all the Bat-family books intact, they had to leave Batman's history alone. So everything still happened, but somehow it all happened in five years -- the origin, meeting Talia, fathering Damian (who is clearly NOT 5 years old), Dick Grayson being Robin and then Nightwing, Tim Drake being Robin then Red Robin, and Jason Todd being Robin and then Red Hood. Editorial is sticking with the five year story, but they are also sticking with keeping Batman's history intact. Meanwhile they are ignoring the obvious elephant in the room that none of this makes any sense whatsoever. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 14:23:58 GMT -5
Standard timeline for DCU in the new52 is all the #1 at launch were set 5 years into the DCU...So Bats had been active for 5 years and had a billion Robins (ok Dick, Jason, Tim and Damian so 4) by that point.
-M
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 12, 2014 14:42:35 GMT -5
The in story explanation was an interesting touch by Snyder, but I simply didn't buy it. We're to believe that Bruce was convinced that the Court didn't exist simply because he failed to find evidence as a child detective? That said, I'm nitpicking, and I do think the Court is an interesting idea and I can accept them as a solid addition to the rogues gallery. (It's easy to forget how even more nonsensical a lot of Silver Age, and even Bronze Age, concepts are when put to the test.)
I will say that I agree that DC messed up the new 52 continuity sticking so hard to the character having to be younger and consequentially the 5 year rule. Why is this so important to DC when the fanbase gets older and older? Superman and Batman were at their "oldest" when the fanbase was comprised primarily of kids in the 50's and 60's. Robin, the Titans, etc, are supposed to be the younger heroes that contrast the older Justice League members. It seems like an incredibly simple formula that DC overly complicated.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 12, 2014 14:59:00 GMT -5
The Court of Owls was much more interesting the first half dozen times I read essentially the same story by different teams.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 12, 2014 19:20:17 GMT -5
So, I finally read the first Five Ghosts tpb, and I liked it so much that I ran out the bought the second one this afternoon. Great comic. I really love Mooneyham's art-- the Kubert influence is definitely present, but he's got enough of his own style that it doesn't seem derivative.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 20:00:24 GMT -5
Never heard of it. Just looked it up, the art definitely looks good. I'll keep an eye out for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 20:28:56 GMT -5
So, I finally read the first Five Ghosts tpb, and I liked it so much that I ran out the bought the second one this afternoon. Great comic. I really love Mooneyham's art-- the Kubert influence is definitely present, but he's got enough of his own style that it doesn't seem derivative. I've been talking up that series to anyone who'll listen. One of my favorite recent launches. Mooneyham is on my list of new artists to watch for sure. I love that even his signature is Kubert influenced though-you can tell his time at the Kubert school definitely had an impact. -M |
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Post by berkley on Jul 12, 2014 20:46:57 GMT -5
That Sabrina preview does look pretty good, to my surprise. Not sure what to think of Gilbert Hernandez doing Wonder Woman, but I'll certainly be picking it up to see for myself. Bought a copy of that Avengers Annual featuring Doctor Strange, purely because the artwork looked so good. Haven't read it yet though. While I was in the store I took a glance at the current Shang-Chi mini, Deadly Hands of Kung Fu. The cartoonish style of artwork in this one didn't appeal to me, so any lingering curiosity I might have been feeling about it has more or less disappeared. I also flipped through an issue of the new Forever People series and while Giffen's Kirbyesque art was OK (I suppose: something about it doesn't sit right with me, in contrast to the quite different but still Kirbyesque style of Giffen's early career), the script was just awful. I think Didio must be one of those guys whose every utterance, whether in interviews or in the comics he writes, just rubs me the wrong way. Possibly the last writer in the world who should be allowed anywhere near a New Gods related book, thpugh Heaven knows the competition is fierce. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 12, 2014 23:28:23 GMT -5
I know I've said it before, but I HATE the way Marvel refused to have continuity these days.
I was reading last months X-Books, and who do I see? Vindicator. You know, the one that was killed in Regina during Hickman's Avengers? No mention of it... she calls Wolverine to help her deal with something, while Regina, is , you know, a giant event zone with killer plants eating everyone.
And not of this nonsense about 'maybe it happens before'.. this is BEFORE Infinity even.
Then there's Puck, who, not too long ago, was running around in California with X-Force and lusting after Psylocke... he's show in a log cabin in Canada with Talisman. (At least that's plausible...)
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Post by comicscube on Jul 13, 2014 0:09:13 GMT -5
I know I've said it before, but I HATE the way Marvel refused to have continuity these days. I was reading last months X-Books, and who do I see? Vindicator. You know, the one that was killed in Regina during Hickman's Avengers? No mention of it... she calls Wolverine to help her deal with something, while Regina, is , you know, a giant event zone with killer plants eating everyone. And not of this nonsense about 'maybe it happens before'.. this is BEFORE Infinity even. Then there's Puck, who, not too long ago, was running around in California with X-Force and lusting after Psylocke... he's show in a log cabin in Canada with Talisman. (At least that's plausible...) Marvel's lineup is so good to me at the moment that any lack of continuity doesn't bother me at all. Okay, it rarely ever bothers me. I know, why am I even still responding... |
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