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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on May 31, 2014 13:21:55 GMT -5
I know the thread for getting recommendations on series you haven't read exists but I wanted to hog my own thread here. I have found that, in the past year, I have gravitated slowly towards buying newer comics, something I swore I would never do but hey...comics are comics and when the art and stories are good, I have to read!
My question is simple...what newer runs are the best to pick up and read? Specifically for characters like Batman, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Cap and hey even Fantastic Four.
Is Morrison's Batman stuff really that great? (the few issues I have were so so) Is Simone's Secret Six stuff worth grabbing? What is the best from Spider-Man in the past 15 years or so?
I have an invite back to a local guy's place and he is dumping a lot of newer stuff at great prices so I just want to know what to look for and what the best stuff to read is!
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 31, 2014 13:46:10 GMT -5
I'd definitely pick up Spidey... Slott's been pretty consistently good. I enjoyed the 'Superior' arc quite a bit, and what I've read of the rest is good as well.
If you like 'teen' type books, Avengers Academy and the sort of follow up Avengers Arena were also both quite good, but keep me might it's a teen book, it's gets a little hipster at times.
Bendis' X-Books are decent, but the move at a glacial pace that gets pretty frustrating.
Iron Man has been pretty meh under Gillien... I wouldn't be buying it if I didn't have a huge run of it.
Stay far, far, far, away from Hickman. ( Unless you like him, I guess). The man is terrible. I can't wait until he goes off to indy land, hopefully never to be seen at Marvel again.
On the DC side, Morrison's stuff with Damian Wayne is decent, somewhat contiunity heavy. The pre-New 52 stuff looks really good, but I haven't read it yet.
The only New 52 Title I'd recommend is Aquaman.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on May 31, 2014 13:57:27 GMT -5
"Is Morrison's Batman stuff really that great? (the few issues I have were so so) Is Simone's Secret Six stuff worth grabbing?"
I liked 'em both quite a bit, although I haven't gone back and re-read Batman.
"What is the best from Spider-Man in the past 15 years or so?"
Spider-Man's Tangled Web. LOVED that book. Loved.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 14:10:31 GMT -5
If you are looking for Bat stuff to read, look no further than Gotham Central. Rucka, Brubaker, Lark and company. The focus is on the Gotham PD post Gordon and Bats is only a supporting character in it, but for my money it's the best Bat-related book of the 21st century.
For Cap, I'd also say Brubaker's run.
As for Spidey, lost interest sometime during the Ben Reilly debacle and never went back, so really can't help you there.
Fraction and Larroca's Invincible Iron Man was decent, not great. I sampled parts of it via trades from the library but never felt the need to go get the rest.
Unlike Wildfire, I enjoyed what I read of Hickman's FF, again via trades from the library, but couldn't stand what I read of Morrison's Batman, especially where Damian Wayne was concerned.
Outside those you mentioned but sticking to big 2 super-hero stuff since that seems to be the focus of what you want to read...Immortal Iron Fist under Brubaker & Fraction, James Robinson's Shade series in the new52, Daredevil by Bendis & Maleev and Brubaker & Lark all worth checking out. All of Jeff Parker's Agents of Atlas stuff is worth tracking down as well. If you are looking for X-related stuff, I quite enjoyed the 2003 Mystique series by BK Vaughan (later issues were by McKeever and I have heard they were good too but haven't gotten around to reading them yet. Also from BKV-the Dr. Strange The Oath mini with art by Marcos Martin is well worth checking out. The early issues of the first Secret Avengers run by Brubaker and Warren Ellis were also a good read. I also quite liked the Sword of Atlantis issues of Aquaman, but that's because I am a fan of things sword and sorcery. The cosmic stuff from Abnett & Lanning at Marvel gets a lot of positive vibes and I am currently tracking down a lot of it to read, but the GotG issues are going berserk in back issue process right now so I am waiting for trades on that stuff. If you like sci-fi/cosmic, also check out the 8 issue Adam Strange mini by Diggle and Pascal Ferry from '04 (collected in trade as Planet Heist).
If you want indy stuff form this century as well, let us know, I am sure a lot of folks have recommendations outside big 2 super-heroes too.
-M
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Post by Hoosier X on May 31, 2014 14:43:25 GMT -5
I've tried to give Morrison's Batman a chance because I liked All-Star Superman so much, but so far I'm not impressed. Batman RIP is nice to look at but it gets pretty dumb before you're done.
Check out the Paul Dini issues in Detective. There were a lot of good ones, sidetracked by other writers and a Ra's al Ghul cross-over I could live without. (And his Poison Ivy issue was one of the worst I've seen for poor Ivy.) It starts about #820 or so, and the really good ones are 826, 827, 828, 831, 833, 834, 837, 841 to 850, which includes Heart of Hush. Don't forget the Faces of Evil issues, Detective #852 and Batman #685.
(Detective Comics was actually pretty good for a while after that. You're pretty safe with Detective from #850 up to #881. For a while there was a really good backup with Renee Montoya as the Question.)
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Post by the4thpip on May 31, 2014 15:56:38 GMT -5
Runs I remember very fondly:
Mark Waid's Daredevil. Gail Simone's Secret Six. Pak & van Lente's Incredible Hercules/Herc. Abnett & Lanning's Guardians of the Galaxy (as well as the event series around them: Annihilation, War of Kings etc.) Hawkeye by Fraction. Lapinot by Trondheim Conan by Kurt Busiek. Astro City by Busiek.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 31, 2014 17:48:53 GMT -5
Atomic Robo is pure joy. Most fun comic in decades.
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Post by Icctrombone on May 31, 2014 18:23:45 GMT -5
I enjoyed Astonishing X-men by Joss Whedon and John Cassidy. It ran from 1-24 (2004-2007).
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Post by shaxper on May 31, 2014 21:27:23 GMT -5
Atomic Robo is pure joy. Most fun comic in decades. I was at a comic panel with Gerry Conway recently where he randomly commented that Atomic Robo is the one book everyone should be reading. And, if the OP is open to non-superhero books, I still maintain Life with Archie: The Married Life is the finest comic published in the last twenty years. Amazing plotting and characterization, all while having surprisingly real-feeling characters maintain a nearly unwavering positive mindset while facing the darkness of real-life challenges head on. I've also heard the new Valiant stuff is pretty great.
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Post by Action Ace on May 31, 2014 21:58:52 GMT -5
I know the thread for getting recommendations on series you haven't read exists but I wanted to hog my own thread here. I have found that, in the past year, I have gravitated slowly towards buying newer comics, something I swore I would never do but hey...comics are comics and when the art and stories are good, I have to read! My question is simple...what newer runs are the best to pick up and read? Specifically for characters like Batman, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Cap and hey even Fantastic Four. Is Morrison's Batman stuff really that great? (the few issues I have were so so) Is Simone's Secret Six stuff worth grabbing? What is the best from Spider-Man in the past 15 years or so? I have an invite back to a local guy's place and he is dumping a lot of newer stuff at great prices so I just want to know what to look for and what the best stuff to read is! BATMAN I loved Morrison's run on Batman from start to finish. As mentioned above, Paul Dini's work might have been even a little better. Gotham Central should definitely be on the short list as well. The Brubaker/ Rucka issues in Batman and Detective are also worth reading. My other favorites involve cartoons and Adam West, so that's my list. SPIDEY Ultimate Spider-Man by Bendis and Bagley is probably my favorite Spider-Man run since Lee/ Romita Sr. I liked most of issues by Straczynski until Sins Past. The Paul Jenkins work of the era on Peter Parker was even better. Since One More Day, it's been a very mixed bag for me and I stopped collecting back issues right before Doc Ock took over. IRON MAN My last Iron Man comic read was when Kurt Busiek was the writer. CAPTAIN AMERICA I liked the Brubaker run, but stopped when Cap was killed and haven't been back since. FANTASTIC FOUR I found Millar's run satisfactory and really disliked Hickman's. For me, Mark Waid's Fantastic Four is the best era of all time, except for Stan and Jack. SECRET SIX I read the Villains United mini series and that was enough. MARVEL The only other Marvels I've liked were the first two volumes of The Ultimates and The Pulse, a comic about the Daily Bugle staff. DC The last decade the two authors at DC I've loved above all others are Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns. I enjoyed Final Crisis, 7 Soldiers, Batman whatever, Flash, Aquaman , JSA, Green Lantern, Blackest Night, Infinite Crisis and others. For a taste of the DCU I recommend Brave & the Bold. Mark Waid's and J Michael Stracyznski's issues were great and many of them are done in one. OTHERS Astro City and Invincible
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Post by fanboystranger on May 31, 2014 22:29:22 GMT -5
In my opinion, the best Spider-Man stuff in the past 15 years is Paul Jenkins' run with Mark Buckingham. It's one of the few times I can say I truly loved reading Spider-Man on a monthly basis. It goes downhill when Bucky leaves, though.
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Post by shaxper on May 31, 2014 22:38:57 GMT -5
I enjoyed Astonishing X-men by Joss Whedon and John Cassidy. It ran from 1-24 (2004-2007). Good call, but most of what I loved about it was its throwback feel. It was a massive homage to the Claremont Era.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 31, 2014 23:08:04 GMT -5
Runs I remember very fondly: Mark Waid's Daredevil. Gail Simone's Secret Six. Pak & van Lente's Incredible Hercules/Herc. Abnett & Lanning's Guardians of the Galaxy (as well as the event series around them: Annihilation, War of Kings etc.) Hawkeye by Fraction. Lapinot by Trondheim Conan by Kurt Busiek. Astro City by Busiek. I agree with just about all of these... just wasn't thinking that far back DnA's cosmic Marvel fantastic.
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Post by Randle-El on May 31, 2014 23:25:04 GMT -5
A few have already been mentioned, but my list would include:
Whedon's Astonishing X-Men run -- loved the back and forth between Kitty Pryde and Emma Frost
Daredevil -- I've read pretty much everything from Frank Miller's first run and onward, and I'd rank Bendis's run with Miller and Waid as the top three most entertaining runs from the past ~34 years.
Immortal Iron First -- The first 17 issues by Fraction et al tend to get the most attention, but I enjoyed the series as a whole.
Slott's run on Amazing Spider-Man #648-700 -- Superior Spider-Man was entertaining, but I found the ASM issues to be the stronger stories overall. I liked how Slott brought back the idea of Peter being a science whiz -- it makes sense that if he's so smart, he should be able to get a job at a place like Horizon instead of being forced to peddle Spidey photos.
Superman: Birthright by Mark Waid -- Waid was born to write Superman, it's a shame that he probably won't get a chance to write an extended run on the character anytime in the near future.
Superman for All Seasons by Jeph Leob
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Post by comicscube on Jul 8, 2014 3:24:44 GMT -5
I stopped being interested in Spidey before JMS even got to him, and really got driven away by the first JMS collection and didn't come back until Brand New Day, during a storyline written by Dan Slott and drawn by Marcos Martin. The Brand New Day stuff, as you'd expect from having rotating creators, was uneven, but some parts were gold. The 600th issue may just be my favorite anniversary issue of anything.
When Slott took over full time, the title kicked into high gear for me. Spider-Island is one of my favorite storylines ever. I don't love Superior as some of its fans do, and I really kind of get a little scared when I see people agreeing with Otto's actions, but it's a solid, solid run that breathed new life into Peter when he came back.
All this may be dependent on how you feel about Mary Jane Watson though. I personally find her more interesting and dynamic when she's not Peter's wife, so it all works for me. And Slott's patter for Spider-Man and megalomaniacal rants for Ock are ace.
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