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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 27, 2015 23:40:05 GMT -5
Small world. ( Though as Steven Wright said, "I wouldn't want to paint it.") One of my oldest,best friends is from Bayonne, Avenue C, to be specific, and my late brother-in- law taught several classes at Jersey City State, in the late 90s, early 2000s. Also a Jersey City boy who lived in Bayonne for a few years, too. I was lucky. Lost no one that day, though others in my family had acquaintances who died there. One of the sad tableaux in the aftermath, as I'm sure you know, were the many commuter lots near train and bus stations where scores of cars of the missing and dead remained parked for days afterward. The LCS where I bought my first comics was the pragmatically named Bayonne Comics Center on Avenue C. And on Halloween, we did our trick or treating at business on Broadway (they all had candy bowls) instead of at residences. I didn't personally know anyone who died on 9/11 either. I moved to Middlesex County as a kid in the 1980s. The general pattern was for relatives to move to more suburban areas, but the people from my grandparents generation would stay in Hudson County. I used to go back to Bayonne to visit my great-aunts, but by 2001 most of them had passed away. My mom kept working in Jersey City, because (1) she would have dropped down the pay scale if she started in a new district, and (2) she actually enjoyed working in an urban school district where a lot of kids really need good teachers to stay. A couple of people I work with now, live in Hudson County. But they're transplants. I think they were living in Pennsylvania and Long Island on 9/11. I taught for a year in Middlesex, right next to Bound Brook, in Middlesex County. Weird. I have no one left in Jersey City, either. My age group moved out, though most of the earlier group, my parents and a couple of aunts excepted, stayed till they died. Did not know about that comic store in Bayonne. After my time, I'm sure. (They carbon-date me to determine my age.) However, one of my most vivid comic book memories is of my grandfather giving me four very shiny quarters one June day at a cousin's eighth grade graduation at St. Al's church on West Side Avenue. I immediately ran into a small candy store nearby and bought a batch of great comics: eight to be precise. I still can see those comics. Those were the days. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 27, 2015 23:44:20 GMT -5
A fellow employee with a car who also lived in Manhattan said he'd give me a lift but maybe we should wait till early evening. At 5PM we headed upstate, thought we can cross the Hudson up by the Tappan Zee bridge, drive down to the Bronx and then into Manhattan. That we did, listening to the radio broadcasts the whole way. We got to Yankee stadium by about midnight and still all bridges were blocked. After another long wait, we heard via radio that the subway had resumed service from Queens into Manhattan. So over the Whitestone bridge into Queens we went, ditched the car, took a subway to the city and I finally got home about 4AM Bridges and tunnels remained closed for 2 more days and so I couldn't report to work. 48 hours after the event, I started to notice the smell of the devastation, the fumes of the towers' remains and the atomized remnants of the victims. It had reached the upper east side. What a story, Ish. All those souls floating in the smoke and ashes above the city. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 27, 2015 23:56:15 GMT -5
A fellow employee with a car who also lived in Manhattan said he'd give me a lift but maybe we should wait till early evening. At 5PM we headed upstate, thought we can cross the Hudson up by the Tappan Zee bridge, drive down to the Bronx and then into Manhattan. That we did, listening to the radio broadcasts the whole way. We got to Yankee stadium by about midnight and still all bridges were blocked. After another long wait, we heard via radio that the subway had resumed service from Queens into Manhattan. So over the Whitestone bridge into Queens we went, ditched the car, took a subway to the city and I finally got home about 4AM Bridges and tunnels remained closed for 2 more days and so I couldn't report to work. 48 hours after the event, I started to notice the smell of the devastation, the fumes of the towers' remains and the atomized remnants of the victims. It had reached the upper east side. What a story, Ish. All those souls floating in the smoke and ashes above the city. There are no words to express, knowing what it is you were breathing in that day. Coupled with the eerie scene of Yankee stadium and the Grand Concourse on the eve of 9/11-pretty much desolate except for the police acrtivity and troops with sub machine guns, the flashing lights and barricades Again, right after the recent Paris attack, NYC went into high alert and heavily trafficked target area had soldiers with automatic weapons and bomb sniffing dogs. I was at Lincoln Center, I was at a shopping mall in Queens, I was at Grand Central Station. It was exactly like in the days after 9/11 when we were having numerous high level alert events that were color coded for the level of potential danger. The Paris attacks brought back many bad memories and my heart goes out to it's victims and survivors |
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 28, 2015 6:31:43 GMT -5
There is no one I can feel comfortable with in supporting this coming election It's gonna come down to the Realpolitik of choosing the flawed candidate to prevent the truly dangeous one. |
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 28, 2015 6:32:16 GMT -5
I like slipping German words into my posts. It makes me feel all Kurt Wagner
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 28, 2015 8:02:29 GMT -5
There is no one I can feel comfortable with in supporting this coming election It's gonna come down to the Realpolitik of choosing the flawed candidate to prevent the truly dangeous one. It usually does. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 11:52:12 GMT -5
Small world. ( Though as Steven Wright said, "I wouldn't want to paint it.") One of my oldest,best friends is from Bayonne, Avenue C, to be specific, and my late brother-in- law taught several classes at Jersey City State, in the late 90s, early 2000s. Also a Jersey City boy who lived in Bayonne for a few years, too. I was lucky. Lost no one that day, though others in my family had acquaintances who died there. One of the sad tableaux in the aftermath, as I'm sure you know, were the many commuter lots near train and bus stations where scores of cars of the missing and dead remained parked for days afterward. I've mentioned before, I'm sure, that one of my first cousins (youngest son of my dad's only brother; he's a couple of years younger than me) is married to this woman, whose first husband died on the plane that went down in Pennsylvania; she had several cell phone conversations with him as some of the passengers were preparing to rush the cockpit to take on the hijackers. I've met her only once, at a family reunion near Shreveport about 10 years ago, a couple of years before they married. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 11:57:30 GMT -5
Trump made his remarks in Alabama. I think he was actually one of those politicians who forgets the internet exists when he's speaking. He was home he could smear NJ to an Alabama audience. I've lived here for 14 years now, pretty much to the day. Trump could've stood up & read his favorite passages (of which I suspect there are many) from Mein Kampf & he would've generated a rapturous response from the Klavern Klowns who support him down here. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 12:32:07 GMT -5
What a story, Ish. All those souls floating in the smoke and ashes above the city. Speaking of which ghastly imagery, right now I'm about halfway through 1944: FDR & the Year That Changed History, which spends a surprising amount of space (given the book's subtitle) on just how knowingly callous the U.S. was toward the plight of the Jews in Nazi Germany both before & during the Holocaust, in part on the pretext that hordes of refugees could well include Axis spies. None of that should be news to anyone, but it's quite apposite (& indeed I've seen it cited time & again) during the debate over whether the nation should turn its back on today's Syrian refugees. Not, thankfully, that the Syrians are facing anything comparable to the Final Solution, but still ... xenophobia & nativism are nothing new in this country, & if you go back a few decades you find that so-called progressives were just as guilty as Alabama rednecks. Or perhaps even more guilty, since in the case of the FDR administration the former actually had the power to change policy. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 28, 2015 12:36:02 GMT -5
What a story, Ish. All those souls floating in the smoke and ashes above the city. Speaking of which ghastly imagery, right now I'm about halfway through 1944: FDR & the Year That Changed History, which spends a surprising amount of space (given the book's subtitle) on just how knowingly callous the U.S. was toward the plight of the Jews in Nazi Germany both before & during the Holocaust, in part on the pretext that hordes of refugees could well include Axis spies. None of that should be news to anyone, but it's quite apposite (& indeed I've seen it cited time & again) during the debate over whether the nation should turn its back on today's Syrian refugees. Not, thankfully, that the Syrians are facing anything comparable to the Final Solution, but still ... xenophobia & nativism are nothing new in this country, & if you go back a few decades you find that so-called progressives were just as guilty as Alabama rednecks. So true, from NINA (No Irish Need Apply) signs to the Chinese Exclusion Act to the quotas on Southern Europeans to the vitriolic reaction to the influx of Vietnamese refugees in the mid-70s. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 12:37:00 GMT -5
Have ANY of the Republican Nominees commented on this yet? (as of going to bed last night, I only saw comments from Hillary, Bernie, and President Obama). And of course, my FB feed of Right Wing nonsense about how it wasn't an attack on PP, but rather started next door at the Chase Bank, and anyone who thinks different is a "stupid libtard" (which has already been disproven. . he attacked the PP center, and some people HID in the Chase Bank next door. . .gotta love Fox fans who perpetuate lies). |
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 28, 2015 12:39:35 GMT -5
gotta love Fox fans who perpetuate lies. i.e., Fox fans. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 12:43:49 GMT -5
I dunno. Apparently the guy is very much not all there, period. His voter registration shows he identifies as female & gives his party affiliation as UAF, which may be the UK's leftist Unite Against Fascism faction ... or not. I get the impression he's pretty scrambled upstairs -- even more than the usual gunman.
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 29, 2015 14:04:47 GMT -5
Fiorina upset that "the left" is pointing the finger at apportion opponents after armed attack on Planned Parenthood So it's not true that all the GOP candidates are ignoring the Colorado Springs shooting entirely. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 30, 2015 11:34:09 GMT -5
"GOP not entirely ignoring Planned Parenthood shooting" DepartmentTed Cruz weighs in on Colorado Springs terror attack. Senator Cruz think the shooter is just as likely to be a transgendered leftist activist as he is to be part of the pro-life movement. It's the same thing. One comment was reported by police. The other is a Web meme started by unhinged right-wing extremists. (I'm surprised how quickly it made its way into the mainstream. I would have guessed Dr. Carson would be the major GOP candidate introducing it to the discussion, but he was out of the country, visiting Syrian refugees.) So how can we decide what is real and what is not real? When asked if the Colorado Springs terror attack would be called a terror attack, Senator Cruz offered this sensibsle and thoughtful response:
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