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Post by Confessor on Nov 9, 2016 16:29:39 GMT -5
Fly was a brilliant, brilliant poster over at CBR, very active in the late '90s and early 00s. I view him as a true genius; he would make incredible connections at will and come up with the line above as a matter of course. One of the most cringe-inducing ironies of my life is that he and I worked for five years right across the street from each other, never knew it, and never met. Hey, I remember fly...just about. He used to post mainly in the community board, if I remember correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 16:56:49 GMT -5
As for Kissinger's infamy, yeah... it's in a class all its own. And he doesn't even have the excuse of having been an idiot; on the contrary, he strikes me as a remarkably intelligent politician... just one who didn't seem to mind that tens of thousands of people might die when he moved a piece on the chessboard, all for the greater good of his plan. Big pal of Hillary's too, if memory serves. As ever, it's not exactly as if Eugene V. Debs lost last night.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 9, 2016 17:10:04 GMT -5
Fly was a brilliant, brilliant poster over at CBR, very active in the late '90s and early 00s. I view him as a true genius; he would make incredible connections at will and come up with the line above as a matter of course. One of the most cringe-inducing ironies of my life is that he and I worked for five years right across the street from each other, never knew it, and never met. Hey, I remember fly...just about. He used to post mainly in the community board, if I remember correctly. Mainly in Comm, especially after the reboot. He was very active in the early days of CBR but his activity gradually slowed over time.
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Nov 9, 2016 17:13:31 GMT -5
Fly was a brilliant, brilliant poster over at CBR, very active in the late '90s and early 00s. I view him as a true genius; he would make incredible connections at will and come up with the line above as a matter of course. One of the most cringe-inducing ironies of my life is that he and I worked for five years right across the street from each other, never knew it, and never met. Hey, I remember fly...just about. He used to post mainly in the community board, if I remember correctly. I might be mistaken, but I think he returned to CBR either this year or last year. I haven't been on there in a while, though, so I'm not sure if he still posts there.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 9, 2016 17:16:46 GMT -5
Fly was a brilliant, brilliant poster over at CBR, very active in the late '90s and early 00s. I view him as a true genius; he would make incredible connections at will and come up with the line above as a matter of course. One of the most cringe-inducing ironies of my life is that he and I worked for five years right across the street from each other, never knew it, and never met. As for Kissinger's infamy, yeah... it's in a class all its own. And he doesn't even have the excuse of having been an idiot; on the contrary, he strikes me as a remarkably intelligent politician... just one who didn't seem to mind that tens of thousands of people might die when he moved a piece on the chessboard, all for the greater good of his plan. I read an essay by him in the '90s, and his arguments made a lot of sense on paper... but bloody hell, did we really need all those wars? I was told by Vietnamese friends how, when the French were pulling out, there was a lot of sympathy for the US in Indochina. Surely the country would back their attempt at finally breaking the yoke of foreign domination! Alas, that didn't quite work out. The domino effect was more of a concern than the well-being of the people actually living in that region. Ho Chi Minh was actually a great fan of George Washington and tried to make parallels to the American Revolution, in appeals to the US. However, we weren't about to back anyone against our recent allies and mostly stayed out of it, during the battles with the French. Minh then turned to the other proponents of revolution, the Soviets. Had the US negotiated a peaceful transition of power in French Indochina, imagine how different the world might have been... Definitely a missed opportunity.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 9, 2016 17:23:29 GMT -5
As for Kissinger's infamy, yeah... it's in a class all its own. And he doesn't even have the excuse of having been an idiot; on the contrary, he strikes me as a remarkably intelligent politician... just one who didn't seem to mind that tens of thousands of people might die when he moved a piece on the chessboard, all for the greater good of his plan. Big pal of Hillary's too, if memory serves. As ever, it's not exactly as if Eugene V. Debs lost last night. Yeah, the Clinton's are far from being "The Left." The Democrats abandoned the Left after Carter, and became pure centrist, center-Left, at best (much like the New Labor of Blair). Thing is, Bill probably would have trounced Trump, even with scandals dogging him. He had the charisma that Hillary lacked and that goes a long way in these things, far more than stands on issues. However, I suspect he hurt as much as helped her, as many saw her campaign as a way to circumvent the Constitution and get him back in office, via a backdoor method. Not exactly the truth; but, hard charge to refute. I'm a Progressive and Sanders was our best hope; but, that didn't work out. We seem to be stuck kibbitzing both parties, since neither reflect our ideals. Oh well, the Cubs won, maybe we can some day. Hopefully in my lifetime.
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Post by Pharozonk on Nov 9, 2016 17:35:07 GMT -5
If anything good comes out of this, I hope it inspires Americans of all political stripes to become more active in the political process. The real "silent majority" was the almost 46% of registered voters who didn't bother voting at all.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 9, 2016 18:05:18 GMT -5
England's Jonathan Pie had called it. Warning: four letter words are used. Albeit with a British accent that makes them sound very classy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 18:06:12 GMT -5
If anything good comes out of this, I hope it inspires Americans of all political stripes to become more active in the political process. The real "silent majority" was the almost 46% of registered voters who didn't bother voting at all. Why ... that's right! If only I'd voted for her 588,142 times, Henry Kissinger's BFF would've won Alabama! Yay!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 9, 2016 18:19:56 GMT -5
Common sense and decency took a bigger one. I know, I know We anti-Hillary folks are just the worst You don't need to like Hillary to think Trump is a racist, sexish buffoon that has a smaller vocabulary than my 8 year old. It'll be interesting to see what happens when he doesn't deliver on the wall and canceling the trade agreements like he promised. It makes me very sad for my country that enough people fell for his scare mongering and double talk to get him elected. The process is a big part of the problem of course, offering us such a miserable alternative as Hillary Clinton, but at least I wouldn't have to worry that she was going to start nuclear holocaust if someone disagreed with her.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Nov 9, 2016 18:21:51 GMT -5
If anything good comes out of this, I hope it inspires Americans of all political stripes to become more active in the political process. The real "silent majority" was the almost 46% of registered voters who didn't bother voting at all. Legitimize the voting process and simplify it. It's always been an over complicated joke. That's why we only have two parties with a shot at ever winning anything. Blame the system, not the people that are forced to live under it.
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Nov 9, 2016 18:51:44 GMT -5
If anything good comes out of this, I hope it inspires Americans of all political stripes to become more active in the political process. The real "silent majority" was the almost 46% of registered voters who didn't bother voting at all. Legitimize the voting process and simplify it. It's always been an over complicated joke. That's why we only have two parties with a shot at ever winning anything. Blame the system, not the people that are forced to live under it. Wait, simplify it? Anything you need to know is at your fingertips via Google. Unfortunately, no one can simplify the motivation for you to go out and push a button, or fill in a bubble on a form, for the candidate you want. That is on YOU. It is pretty dang simple.
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 9, 2016 19:19:05 GMT -5
I still like Hillary and am shocked, but, I was originally for Bernie, and wonder if he could have beat Trump.
I think he could have.
Basically similar platforms, but Bernie was genuine, and people didn't distrust him (e-mail scandal, Benghazi, Clinton Foundation).
I'll bet we're going to see John Kasich run again. I could maybe vote for a raging moderate Republican.
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Nov 9, 2016 19:24:01 GMT -5
I still like Hillary and am shocked, but, I was originally for Bernie, and wonder if he could have beat Trump. I think he could have. Basically similar platforms, but Bernie was genuine, and people didn't distrust him (e-mail scandal, Benghazi, Clinton Foundation). I'll bet we're going to see John Kasich run again. I could maybe vote for a raging moderate Republican. I voted for Bernie in the primaries. I have no doubt in my mind he would have destroyed Donald in this election. There are various places blame can be put on for this election. DNC, white supremacy, white women (yes, mine messed up as well), folks who didn't vote, etc. I have hit all of them.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 9, 2016 19:49:09 GMT -5
I still like Hillary and am shocked, but, I was originally for Bernie, and wonder if he could have beat Trump. I think he could have. Basically similar platforms, but Bernie was genuine, and people didn't distrust him (e-mail scandal, Benghazi, Clinton Foundation). I'll bet we're going to see John Kasich run again. I could maybe vote for a raging moderate Republican. My wife and I were both pulling for John Kasich, even though we knew he had no realistic shot. We still had some issues with his social platform, but as far as Republicans go, he's fairly reasonable and doesn't make us feel dirty for supporting him. As for Bernie, he probably would have had a shot at beating Trump, but while he may be "genuine', he also comes off as "kooky" at times, which may have hurt him in courting moderates . I do think he would have energized the millennial vote in a way that Hillary couldn't, because she has been around Washington for way too long. She really had no fresh ideas, so running on a platform of "vote for me so you can say you voted for the first woman POTUS" wasn't exactly inspiring, and the scandals, regardless of actual merit or severity, did significant damage to her brand.
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