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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 10, 2014 11:57:40 GMT -5
So I finished up Journey Into Mystery #84 a day or so ago (review to come). The historic first appearance of Jane Foster. And really, all I could think was, so what? Has there ever been a more boring cypher of a character? Now I'll admit I'm not the best versed person in the world when it comes to Thor, but I've read quite a bit. And I don't recall Jane Foster ever being anything but boring or at best annoying.
So who makes your list of worst supporting characters and why?
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 10, 2014 12:06:47 GMT -5
Snapper Carr is the first character that snapped to my mind.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 10, 2014 12:09:50 GMT -5
I second Snapper Carr.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 10, 2014 12:42:51 GMT -5
Lois Lane. I don't know that I've ever seen an incarnation of the character I even remotely liked. Maybe the Dini/Timm version. Maybe. That I enjoy her Silver Age solo title is due almost entirely to Kurt Schaffenberger and not to its conniving lead.
Cei-U!
And her sister Lucy is worse!
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Post by fanboystranger on Jun 10, 2014 12:56:16 GMT -5
Tom Peyer's Hourman series may make you rethink Snapper Carr. Such a great series, and Snapper's the primary reason why.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jun 10, 2014 12:58:36 GMT -5
The Gronk from Strontium Dog. Balanced out by possibly the greatest supporting cast member ever, Wulf Sternhammer.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 10, 2014 12:59:12 GMT -5
I thought of Snapper Carr immediately, too.
I thought Jane Foster was decent, but I've not read the early Thor much.
I really like modern Lois, I agree Golden Age Lois is pretty terrible... Silver Age Lois is more a victim of the time than anything.
I've always hated Jasper Sitwell, too... totally pointless, IMO.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jun 10, 2014 13:08:59 GMT -5
Lois Lane is awesome! She just had a brief period of 30 years or so where they misused her.  |
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Post by MDG on Jun 10, 2014 13:12:08 GMT -5
Say it ain't so! (or should that be "Cei it ain't so!"?) I originally thought Aunt May, but she's essential to what makes Spider-Man Spider-Man. (At least in the early years--though you go to wonder if Randian Ditko would've tossed her aside.) Same way, Lois is part of what Superman is--the constant link to "regular" people, and a factor he can't always control. (Though I'll agree that the character hasn't always come off well--in fact, rarely) On the other hand, much as i love early JLA, those stories would work just as well w/o Snapper. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 10, 2014 14:00:46 GMT -5
I'm not saying Lois can't work as a character, only that she rarely has. She was obviously central to the thematic heart of the series as Siegel and Shuster conceived it: Lois would never be worthy of the morally and physically perfect Superman's love until she could accept and love Clark Kent with all his imperfections. By definition, she couldn't be easily liked. That's probably why I've never bought into the idea of Lois and Big Blue being hitched. Once you resolve the sexual tension between the three (counting Clark) characters, you've basically eviscerated the relationship of what made it interesting.
One of the reasons I chose many of the characters I did for Lash House was to demonstrate my deeply-held belief that there's no such thing as a bad character (with a few obvious exceptions). A good writer can make virtually any character shine without redefining its creators' core concept. So yeah, I like Snapper Carr, even though Marty's 100% right about his superfluity in most JLA stories. JLA: Year One proved he can work, or I thought so anyway.
And now I'm just rambling so...
Cei-U!
I summon the stram-of-consciousness!
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Post by shaxper on Jun 10, 2014 14:12:22 GMT -5
Percival Pop: Supercop
Joe Potato
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 10, 2014 14:17:17 GMT -5
Good call on Popp.
Cei-U!
I shudder to think!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 10, 2014 14:19:46 GMT -5
Percival Pop: Supercop Joe Potato  This is why Joe Potato is outstanding. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 10, 2014 14:23:56 GMT -5
I'm not saying Lois can't work as a character, only that she rarely has. She was obviously central to the conceptual heart of the series as Siegel and Shuster conceived it: Lois would never be worthy of the morally and physically perfect Superman's love until she could accept and love Clark Kent and all his imperfections. By definition, she couldn't be easily liked. That's probably why I've never bought into the idea of Lois and Big Blue being hitched. Once you resolve the sexual tension between the three (counting Clark) characters, you've basically eviscerated the relationship of what made it interesting. Golden Age Lois works for me because she's all this and pretty badass in and of herself. Brass ovaries on that one, I tell you. Conversely, the Fantastic Four's Alicia has never come off as anything but a simpery female-prop-for-male characters to me. Although it's interesting to think that she might have a fetish for rocks..
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Post by fanboystranger on Jun 10, 2014 14:31:34 GMT -5
Percival Pop: Supercop Joe Potato oh, God... Percival Pop. Just utterly shifted the tone of The Spectre. |
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