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Post by fanboystranger on Jun 11, 2014 13:56:09 GMT -5
This should help the Rick Jones haters.
Was he singing on the previous page? Just so we're clear, I only wish Rick harm when he thinks he's the next Bob Dylan. Well that and when Marvel turned him into that atrocious A-Bomb character a couple of years ago Let's just say that he was. I thought the kick to the nuts was the most important element.
Just about everything in the Red Hulk era was terrible. A-Bomb, Red She-Hulk... just so much crap. Thankfully, we had Incredible Herc running at the same time.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 11, 2014 14:24:46 GMT -5
I was dismissive of Red She-Hulk when I first heard of her. But I read The Defenders and then her own series and she grew on me. C'mon! It's Betty Ross!
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 11, 2014 14:26:25 GMT -5
Yo Hoosier X, I found that Marvel Superheroes issue with the Medusa Story. I'll be posting them forthwith. Thanks, icc! Aren't they cool? And I like Medusa's costume a lot. They should bring it back.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 11, 2014 14:33:50 GMT -5
It's funny, but I'm although I'm a big fan of Gene Colan and Vince Colleta this particular issue looks subpar to me. Sorry man. The pages are up.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 11, 2014 14:46:36 GMT -5
They were so cool. Commander Rann, Princess Mari, Acroyear, Biotron, Microtron and Bug. And then they brought in... Nanotron. Eyuch. Whiny, annoying, bland, offensive to women... When Bill Mantlo tried to make her a little less awful "From now on, Nanotron stands her ground", my reaction was "No, no, no, don't try to make her better! She's beyond salvage! Just KILL her!!!" Luckily, when the microrobots were resurrected after they had all died, nobody thought to bring back Nanotron. Phew!
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Post by Action Ace on Jun 11, 2014 16:41:58 GMT -5
I like Rick Jones. Then again, I like Snapper Carr even more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 17:32:56 GMT -5
Yeah...Not sure how a one-shot or seldom used villain sidekick counts as a supporting character. Depends on your definition of a supporting character, I didn't consider number of appearances. Gaggy was used as a novel accomplice to the Joker, wasn't just your normal henchman, especially after getting a cover appearance. Conversely, I'd consider Uncle Ben one of the best supporting characters. Although his role as a supporting character is extremely brief, he's still an overshadowing figure in Spidey's life. Maybe next time some clear definitions of what's meant can be used if only to get the submissions you'd consider valid.
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Post by the4thpip on Jun 12, 2014 2:37:04 GMT -5
I was dismissive of Red She-Hulk when I first heard of her. But I read The Defenders and then her own series and she grew on me. C'mon! It's Betty Ross! Yeah, Jeff Parker made me change my opinion of both her and Rulk.
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Post by the4thpip on Jun 12, 2014 2:38:47 GMT -5
I love Rick Jones, but mostly because Peter David's use of him has colored all his earlier apprearances for me. He's a total jackass, but he's a brave, witty, and somewhat intelligent jackass who lets his impulsiveness get the best of him. Everyone has a friend like that. He's the guy when you mention his name, everybody laughs, then proceeds to tell funny stories about his biggest, dumbest eff-ups.
My absolute favorite Rick Jones moment is at the end of Avengers Forever where he sees that he suddenly has wrist bands on and just casually bangs them together because that's what you do when you're Rick Jones and wrist bands magically appear on your arms. It's such a quintessential jackass Rick Jones moment. No real thought, no consultation with anyone... just go for it. What could go wrong?
Shame they ruined him by turning him into a quasi-Abomination.
And Marlo is the new Harpye! Why? #%&@§ you, that's why!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 12, 2014 6:52:49 GMT -5
I love Rick Jones, but mostly because Peter David's use of him has colored all his earlier apprearances for me. He's a total jackass, but he's a brave, witty, and somewhat intelligent jackass who lets his impulsiveness get the best of him. Everyone has a friend like that. He's the guy when you mention his name, everybody laughs, then proceeds to tell funny stories about his biggest, dumbest eff-ups.
My absolute favorite Rick Jones moment is at the end of Avengers Forever where he sees that he suddenly has wrist bands on and just casually bangs them together because that's what you do when you're Rick Jones and wrist bands magically appear on your arms. It's such a quintessential jackass Rick Jones moment. No real thought, no consultation with anyone... just go for it. What could go wrong?
Shame they ruined him by turning him into a quasi-Abomination.
And Marlo is the new Harpye! Why? #%&@§ you, that's why! For real? Oy. Were I editor in chief of everything, my first rule would be "thou shallt not kill a character that thou didst not create", but my second one (very close below) would be "thou shallt not give supporting characters super-powers, unless they were specifically created for that purpose or unless the situation is very temporary". Turning all the Hulk's supporting cast into monsters is like turning Aunt May into the next herald of Galactus: it is best left to all-humour What if? Issues or to Assistant Editor Month comics.
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Post by the4thpip on Jun 12, 2014 8:12:31 GMT -5
And Marlo is the new Harpye! Why? #%&@§ you, that's why! For real? Oy. Were I editor in chief of everything, my first rule would be "thou shallt not kill a character that thou didst not create", but my second one (very close below) would be "thou shallt not give supporting characters super-powers, unless they were specifically created for that purpose or unless the situation is very temporary". Turning all the Hulk's supporting cast into monsters is like turning Aunt May into the next herald of Galactus: it is best left to all-humour What if? Issues or to Assistant Editor Month comics. They only turn the white ones into monsters, the others get to die of AIDS even though they really would have preferred becoming a monster.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 12, 2014 9:45:11 GMT -5
For real? Oy. Were I editor in chief of everything, my first rule would be "thou shallt not kill a character that thou didst not create", but my second one (very close below) would be "thou shallt not give supporting characters super-powers, unless they were specifically created for that purpose or unless the situation is very temporary". Turning all the Hulk's supporting cast into monsters is like turning Aunt May into the next herald of Galactus: it is best left to all-humour What if? Issues or to Assistant Editor Month comics. They only turn the white ones into monsters, the others get to die of AIDS even though they really would have preferred becoming a monster. Poor Jim Wilson...
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 12, 2014 14:23:00 GMT -5
The Hulk had great supporting characters way back when, even if his activities mainly consisted in jumping from one place to the next. They were for the most part ill-treated over the years.
Please tell me there is no reborn Crackajack Jackson cyborg going around today...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 19:29:44 GMT -5
Jack Norris (Norriss?) from Defenders. Because at some point Gerber decided that a creepy annoying stalker who shook down the Defenders for cash was more interesting than the rest of the team. I am exaggerating a bit, but I can't stand the character.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 12, 2014 19:45:09 GMT -5
How about Terry Long husband of Donna Troy? Boy, was he creepy.
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