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Post by zaku on Apr 30, 2021 10:36:30 GMT -5
I listened to a podcast yesterday that stated that Captain Marvell got cancer from Avengers #89 when he escaped the negative zone. I was always under the impression that he got cancer from when he fought Nitro in Issue # 34 of his series. He seals a nerve gas at the end of the issue but passes out and is hospitalized. Does anyone know what the canon is on this event ? I did a little googling and every source out there mention the nerve gas as the cause of his cancer. I mean, they say so on the Marvel site itself. You can't get more official than that.
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Post by sparrow421 on Apr 30, 2021 11:28:10 GMT -5
Hello, I have a quick question, I found out recently these days some weird comics called "The Biological Show" from Al Columbia. I know it has nothing to do with Super Heroes comics but it is really unique and I kept thinking about it. They are in black and white, macabre and quite fascinating. Didn't find that much information on Wikipedia though especially about the cartoonist(Al Columbia).Strange seems mysterious. So I've been looking to buy the books on eBay and they are quite expensive.. ( from 84$ ,99$ to 112$ and 200$) I didn't understand why I mean the books are indeed very fascinating but I think not worth that much maybe so what is it? is it there that they weren't much of them printed or something does anyone knows why this peculiar comics are expensive? thankyou for your help
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 13:32:29 GMT -5
didn't they reuse the "bad guy gave hero cancer" plot point in the 1st Squadron Supreme series?
one of the "bad guys" who joined the team, Nuke, accidentally poisoned Tom Thumb giving him cancer?
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Post by zaku on Apr 30, 2021 14:59:06 GMT -5
didn't they reuse the "bad guy gave hero cancer" plot point in the 1st Squadron Supreme series? one of the "bad guys" who joined the team, Nuke, accidentally poisoned Tom Thumb giving him cancer? His parents...
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Apr 30, 2021 15:47:54 GMT -5
I feel like I should know this but is there a site that shows all the pages that should be present in old silver age Spidey comics? I’m trying to determine if ASM 6 I am looking to buy is complete....
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Post by tartanphantom on Apr 30, 2021 16:17:01 GMT -5
I feel like I should know this but is there a site that shows all the pages that should be present in old silver age Spidey comics? I’m trying to determine if ASM 6 I am looking to buy is complete.... Just do a page count. Issue #6 should have 36 pages including the covers, front and back. It should be 9 flat sheets including the outer cover, which means 9 page leaves from the centerfold to (and including) either outer cover. Anything less and the book is not complete-- then there is also the pitfall of coupon cutouts. As a general rule, standard 12-cent Marvels should always be 36 pages front and back including the covers.
Indexed page count information for this issue is HERE.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 30, 2021 19:01:43 GMT -5
Hello, I have a quick question, I found out recently these days some weird comics called "The Biological Show" from Al Columbia. I know it has nothing to do with Super Heroes comics but it is really unique and I kept thinking about it. They are in black and white, macabre and quite fascinating. Didn't find that much information on Wikipedia though especially about the cartoonist(Al Columbia).Strange seems mysterious. So I've been looking to buy the books on eBay and they are quite expensive.. ( from 84$ ,99$ to 112$ and 200$) I didn't understand why I mean the books are indeed very fascinating but I think not worth that much maybe so what is it? is it there that they weren't much of them printed or something does anyone knows why this peculiar comics are expensive? thankyou for your help Not as big a figure in the US; but, as for the pricing, that's probably down to a couple of things: scarcity and COVID stupidity. His early work was as an assistant to Bill Sienkiewicz, when he was working with Alan Moore, on Big Numbers. This was a major deal, at first, as it was the pairing of two powerhouses and they would own their material. It was published through Moore's Mad Love company; but, it was bankrolled via Kevin Eastman's Tundra Publishing. Eastman was stupid rich (as in rich enough to buy stupid things, like Batmobiles), from the Turtles cartoons and toys, after becoming "well off" just from the comics. he and partner Peter Laird both wanted to use their money to further the artform and help out other creators. Laird used his money to found the Xeric Foundation, which handed out grants to creators to publish their own work, as they had been able to do, thanks to a tax refund and some family investment. Eastman started Tundra as a way to finance dream projects for his friends and other fellow creators. Laird's money was the more wisely spent, as it gave the seed money to get a project going and let the creator focus on the story and art, but didn't give them a blank check. Eastman pretty much handed out blank checks and a lot of people cashed them, without putting out the work they were supposed to produce. some did, like James O'Barr, who finished the Crow, which he had started through Caliber. Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell started From Hell via that, and Steve Bissette was doing his Taboo anthology. Sienkiewicz and Moore produced 2 issues, then there were delays and a complete falling out. Columbia was tapped to be sole artist to continue, but never completed the work and is alleged to have destroyed it., after a falling out. Tundra bled money, but produced some great works, while it existed: From Hell, Brat Pack, The Crow, Taboo, Mr Monster, and Understanding Comics. The work you are citing was originally done in the British anthology Deadline, which was an alternative publication, best known for showcasing Jamie Hewlett's Tank Girl. Columbia's material got reprinted by Fantagraphics, a bit later. Tundra had small print runs, of mostly alternative material, at a time when speculators were throwing money at Image, Valiant, Malibu and Dark Horse, for new titles, regardless of how bad they were. DC and Marvel churned out junk to dominate comic shops and squeeze out small publishers. So, Tundra didn't sell in huge numbers, especially relative to how much went into production and in funding the project, in the first place. They lost something like $14 Million, in the 3 years of their existence. All of those Tundra projects go for high prices on the collector market, as there aren't many copies of most of them out there. I don't think Deadline had great distribution over here; so, those would also be scarce and Fantagraphics rarely had huge print runs, so there are their reprints for probably high prices. So, you aren't going to find many copies of works carrying his art out there, since they don't feature adolescent male power fantasies and horror. Add to that, now people have COVID stimulus money; and, instead of using it for things that are needed, you have a lot of people who are blowing it on stupid stuff, like collectibles, as inflated prices. They are home, bored, flush with cash, nostalgic, depressed and/or anxious and are buying things from their past as comfort. So, collectible comics, like rare indie and alternative comics, have shot up in value, as have readily plentiful superhero comics. (as well as other collectibles, like sports cards, coins, stamps, etc). So, you have a perfect storm of rare material, under the best of circumstances, and consumer frenzy, brought on by the pandemic. I can't really tell you much more about the artist, as I never really followed his work. He was never as big a name is Peter Bagge, Dan Clowes, Chris Ware, Seth, Jim Woodring, Los Bros Hernandez, Roberta Gregory or some of the other indie/alternative comics folks.
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Post by foxley on Apr 30, 2021 21:12:29 GMT -5
didn't they reuse the "bad guy gave hero cancer" plot point in the 1st Squadron Supreme series? one of the "bad guys" who joined the team, Nuke, accidentally poisoned Tom Thumb giving him cancer? Nuke wasn't one of the bad guys who joined the team. He was one of the members before the Squadron started their Utopia program: the Squadron's version of Firestorm.
And as zaku said, it was his parents who contracted cancer due to prolonged exposure to him. Tom Thumb's cancer was unconnected to Nuke.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 22:22:08 GMT -5
^ ah. been a while since I read that.
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Post by Calidore on Apr 30, 2021 22:25:27 GMT -5
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Apr 30, 2021 22:59:43 GMT -5
I feel like I should know this but is there a site that shows all the pages that should be present in old silver age Spidey comics? I’m trying to determine if ASM 6 I am looking to buy is complete.... Just do a page count. Issue #6 should have 36 pages including the covers, front and back. It should be 9 flat sheets including the outer cover, which means 9 page leaves from the centerfold to (and including) either outer cover. Anything less and the book is not complete-- then there is also the pitfall of coupon cutouts. As a general rule, standard 12-cent Marvels should always be 36 pages front and back including the covers.
Indexed page count information for this issue is HERE.Normally I would but this is a book I’m buying from afar. Thankfully the seller took a video and I could clearly see that all pages were there
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Post by profh0011 on May 1, 2021 9:34:40 GMT -5
I’m trying to determine if ASM 6 I am looking to buy is complete....
A little while back, I bought a 1967 horror anthology from Brazil, not an easy thing to do as online stores there DON'T sell to outside the country. Anyway, there was one story in there I'd seen referenced in an online index, but which had never turned up in any online fan blogs or in any reprints. And I found out why. There was a page MISSING, which contained the first 2 pages of that story. I wondered, was this a fluke, or, was EVERY copy of that issue screwed up at the printers back in 1967? I really wanted to post that story at my blog, so I did the only thing I could think of. I created 2 BRAND-NEW pages of art to fill in what was missing of the story. (It was a POE adaptation, so, it was do-able.)
THIS was where you came in if you read the actual comic. (Of course, in the comic, it was in Portuguese, and black-and-white.)
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Post by codystarbuck on May 1, 2021 11:07:41 GMT -5
^ ah. been a while since I read that. Nuke's radioactivity has grown and poisoned his parents. He asks Tom Thumb to help and he develops a refined containment suit; but, it isn't enough. Nuke's guilt and grief cause his power to go out of control. Tom works on finding a cure for cancer and ends up developing stasis chambers; but succumbs, himself. The bad guys that join are Lamprey, Shape, Foxfire, after being reformed by Tom Thumb's mind machine, which could alter their personality, which Golden Archer later uses to brainwash Lady Lark into loving him, instead of breaking up with him. Watchmen had a plot point, in the manipulation of Dr Manhattan, that he emits radiation and was responsible for cancer in his former girlfriend/lover, as well as his enemy Moloch. He is confronted with allegations during a tv interview and is pushed to a breaking point and miracles away the crew and audience. This leads to him leaving the Earth and the brink of nuclear war, since the US no longer has him, as a threat.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 1, 2021 11:22:37 GMT -5
I’m trying to determine if ASM 6 I am looking to buy is complete....
A little while back, I bought a 1967 horror anthology from Brazil, not an easy thing to do as online stores there DON'T sell to outside the country. Anyway, there was one story in there I'd seen referenced in an online index, but which had never turned up in any online fan blogs or in any reprints. And I found out why. There was a page MISSING, which contained the first 2 pages of that story. I wondered, was this a fluke, or, was EVERY copy of that issue screwed up at the printers back in 1967? I really wanted to post that story at my blog, so I did the only thing I could think of. I created 2 BRAND-NEW pages of art to fill in what was missing of the story. (It was a POE adaptation, so, it was do-able.)
THIS was where you came in if you read the actual comic. (Of course, in the comic, it was in Portuguese, and black-and-white.)
It's "Hop-Frog," right? I hope you're going to show us the pages you drew.
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Post by Ozymandias on May 2, 2021 13:34:18 GMT -5
Not as big a figure in the US; but, as for the pricing, that's probably down to a couple of things: scarcity and COVID stupidity. His early work was as an assistant to Bill Sienkiewicz, when he was working with Alan Moore, on Big Numbers. This was a major deal, at first, as it was the pairing of two powerhouses and they would own their material. It was published through Moore's Mad Love company; but, it was bankrolled via Kevin Eastman's Tundra Publishing. Eastman was stupid rich (as in rich enough to buy stupid things, like Batmobiles), from the Turtles cartoons and toys, after becoming "well off" just from the comics. he and partner Peter Laird both wanted to use their money to further the artform and help out other creators. Laird used his money to found the Xeric Foundation, which handed out grants to creators to publish their own work, as they had been able to do, thanks to a tax refund and some family investment. Eastman started Tundra as a way to finance dream projects for his friends and other fellow creators. Laird's money was the more wisely spent, as it gave the seed money to get a project going and let the creator focus on the story and art, but didn't give them a blank check. Eastman pretty much handed out blank checks and a lot of people cashed them, without putting out the work they were supposed to produce. some did, like James O'Barr, who finished the Crow, which he had started through Caliber. Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell started From Hell via that, and Steve Bissette was doing his Taboo anthology. Sienkiewicz and Moore produced 2 issues, then there were delays and a complete falling out. Columbia was tapped to be sole artist to continue, but never completed the work and is alleged to have destroyed it., after a falling out. Tundra bled money, but produced some great works, while it existed: From Hell, Brat Pack, The Crow, Taboo, Mr Monster, and Understanding Comics. The work you are citing was originally done in the British anthology Deadline, which was an alternative publication, best known for showcasing Jamie Hewlett's Tank Girl. Columbia's material got reprinted by Fantagraphics, a bit later. Tundra had small print runs, of mostly alternative material, at a time when speculators were throwing money at Image, Valiant, Malibu and Dark Horse, for new titles, regardless of how bad they were. DC and Marvel churned out junk to dominate comic shops and squeeze out small publishers. So, Tundra didn't sell in huge numbers, especially relative to how much went into production and in funding the project, in the first place. They lost something like $14 Million, in the 3 years of their existence. All of those Tundra projects go for high prices on the collector market, as there aren't many copies of most of them out there. I don't think Deadline had great distribution over here; so, those would also be scarce and Fantagraphics rarely had huge print runs, so there are their reprints for probably high prices. So, you aren't going to find many copies of works carrying his art out there, since they don't feature adolescent male power fantasies and horror. Add to that, now people have COVID stimulus money; and, instead of using it for things that are needed, you have a lot of people who are blowing it on stupid stuff, like collectibles, as inflated prices. They are home, bored, flush with cash, nostalgic, depressed and/or anxious and are buying things from their past as comfort. So, collectible comics, like rare indie and alternative comics, have shot up in value, as have readily plentiful superhero comics. (as well as other collectibles, like sports cards, coins, stamps, etc). So, you have a perfect storm of rare material, under the best of circumstances, and consumer frenzy, brought on by the pandemic. I can't really tell you much more about the artist, as I never really followed his work. He was never as big a name is Peter Bagge, Dan Clowes, Chris Ware, Seth, Jim Woodring, Los Bros Hernandez, Roberta Gregory or some of the other indie/alternative comics folks. Well put, and for my part guilty as charged. That said, not everyone feels that way, or says they feel that way; case in point, Chuck Rozanski, who insists we're in the early stages of a new era in comics collecting. I don't know if he wants to justify his insane prices, but he even complains about being slow raising them!
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