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Post by tingramretro on Dec 9, 2015 2:35:38 GMT -5
I've never distinguished between the pence copies and the cents copies. They were all printed in the same place at the same time, they just switched the plates for the last chunk of the print run for sale in the UK. They were still American comics, as far as anyone in Britain was concerned. The annoying thing was, they had ads for stuff we couldn't order... The amazing thing is, some British dealers treat the UK editions as bastards and sell them for LESS than the US cover price versions. They're even listed at lower values on comicspriceguide.com Now this suits me fine, I grab 'em all when I come across Spideys and X-Mens in particular...except from Mile High Comics, he sells them for WAY MORE than US copies.  Less? More? Neither approach makes any sense whatsoever. Don't people realize they're exactly the same books as the ones with the American price? Very, very odd... |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 9, 2015 12:16:18 GMT -5
I can see them going for slightly more, since there are probably fewer of them in existence...no idea what the the CGC crowd thinks, though. Really, those are the people that essentially set the official market (if there is such a thing anymore).
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Post by tingramretro on Dec 10, 2015 3:22:53 GMT -5
I can see them going for slightly more, since there are probably fewer of them in existence...no idea what the the CGC crowd thinks, though. Really, those are the people that essentially set the official market (if there is such a thing anymore). I believe the pence copies used to account for about the last 10% of the print run. |
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Post by shaxper on Dec 10, 2015 7:30:43 GMT -5
I can see them going for slightly more, since there are probably fewer of them in existence...no idea what the the CGC crowd thinks, though. Really, those are the people that essentially set the official market (if there is such a thing anymore). I believe the pence copies used to account for about the last 10% of the print run. So it was the same print run? Then yeah, there really shouldn't be a price difference. Treat it like a Mark Jeweler variant. Unless, somehow, the alterations to the cover affect the nostalgia factor. I guess it would look incongruous in a larger run of American issues. Personally, I can't get enough of the Spanish language variants of classic books. Some of those titles look amazing in another language. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 7:40:53 GMT -5
I always regarded the pence variants as inferior copies. In most cases, I didn't care much, as I was only reading them rather than collecting them for value, but if I had a choice of one which was a UK-variant price or an "original" I would take the original (assuming I actually noticed).
Completely irrational, given that the cover price made no difference at all to the contents, but true all the same
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 7:50:09 GMT -5
I always regarded the pence variants as inferior copies. In most cases, I didn't care much, as I was only reading them rather than collecting them for value, but if I had a choice of one which was a UK-variant price or an "original" I would take the original (assuming I actually noticed). Completely irrational, given that the cover price made no difference at all to the contents, but true all the same I've spoken with UK dealers, like one in Hertfordshire (where I'm from), who felt exactly like you do...they don't accept the UK variants as 'originals' because they're of the opinion it's an American comic and should have the cents cover price to reflect that. I smile sweetly of course then go mining through the pile of pence variants thinking its his bloody loss.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 7:52:54 GMT -5
I would never have paid more for a UK-priced version, and if the uk one was cheaper than the other, I'd always take the cheaper one - but if both were the same price... no contest
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Post by shaxper on Dec 10, 2015 8:58:40 GMT -5
I would never have paid more for a UK-priced version, and if the uk one was cheaper than the other, I'd always take the cheaper one - but if both were the same price... no contest I think I'd subscribe to this logic if I were presented with a UK variant. It's never actually happened to me. Here's a question: For years, comics listed both the American and Canadian cover price. Why not include the UK one too and make it all homogenous? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 9:09:59 GMT -5
I believe the pence copies used to account for about the last 10% of the print run. From what I've heard, quite a bit of these got water damage due to the way they were shipped to the UK so the actual availability % is less. Still, books like these survived  Books started off 9d, then 1/-, then on to the new decimal currency - 6p, 7p, 8p, 9p, 10p, 12p, 15p, 20p...all before I was born.  |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Dec 10, 2015 9:40:12 GMT -5
I weep at the thought of all those Action Comics #1's, Detective Comics #27's and Amazing Fantasy #15's* crammed in the bottom of ships for ballast.
*I'm thinking they might not have had to do this by 1962...
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 10, 2015 10:03:37 GMT -5
Wow, I would have thought more like a quarter.. only 10%? Those should be pretty rare indeed! Just goes to show how important the 'demand' part of supply and demand is  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 10:17:36 GMT -5
I would never have paid more for a UK-priced version, and if the uk one was cheaper than the other, I'd always take the cheaper one - but if both were the same price... no contest I think I'd subscribe to this logic if I were presented with a UK variant. It's never actually happened to me. Here's a question: For years, comics listed both the American and Canadian cover price. Why not include the UK one too and make it all homogenous? If I remember rightly, there was a while when they did include the UK price as well, but it's so long since I've seen any of those issue that I can't know for sure. Jez - does that sound right to you, or am I imagining it? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 10:27:27 GMT -5
Jez - does that sound right to you, or am I imagining it? Yep, I have a number of books with both 60c and 25p on them which would have been around 1983. |
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Post by tingramretro on Dec 10, 2015 11:33:34 GMT -5
I believe the pence copies used to account for about the last 10% of the print run. So it was the same print run? Same print run, same building, same machine, same day. And yet some people still persist in thinking the pence copies were somehow reprints. |
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Post by tingramretro on Dec 10, 2015 11:33:58 GMT -5
I always regarded the pence variants as inferior copies. In most cases, I didn't care much, as I was only reading them rather than collecting them for value, but if I had a choice of one which was a UK-variant price or an "original" I would take the original (assuming I actually noticed). Completely irrational, given that the cover price made no difference at all to the contents, but true all the same The pence copies were "originals". |
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Books started off 9d, then 1/-, then on to the new decimal currency - 6p, 7p, 8p, 9p, 10p, 12p, 15p, 20p...all before I was born.
