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Post by tingramretro on Dec 10, 2015 11:41:20 GMT -5
I would never have paid more for a UK-priced version, and if the uk one was cheaper than the other, I'd always take the cheaper one - but if both were the same price... no contest I think I'd subscribe to this logic if I were presented with a UK variant. It's never actually happened to me. Here's a question: For years, comics listed both the American and Canadian cover price. Why not include the UK one too and make it all homogenous? Marvel did start doing that, in the early eighties.  ![]() |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 19:28:23 GMT -5
But isn't the same day, same place, same print run true of the price variants in America (the 35 cent variant as opposed to the 30 cent, etc.) that were shipped to specific markets as a test? ( I am asking because I am not sure). Yet those have a perceived difference in value among collector's as well don't they? For me personally it's what's on the inside that matters, but people find all sorts of reasons to collect things that don't make a lick of sense to me in comics and elsewhere, so what ever bliss you follow and all that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 19:48:16 GMT -5
But isn't the same day, same place, same print run true of the price variants in America (the 35 cent variant as opposed to the 30 cent, etc.) that were shipped to specific markets as a test? ( I am asking because I am not sure). Yet those have a perceived difference in value among collector's as well don't they? For me personally it's what's on the inside that matters, but people find all sorts of reasons to collect things that don't make a lick of sense to me in comics and elsewhere, so what ever bliss you follow and all that. -M The 30c variants were only available in test markets in these areas and only some outlets got them Grand Rapids, MI Baltimore, MD San Antonio, TX San Jose, CA Albuquerque, NM Somewhere in Massachusetts It's difficult to estimate a print run because I've heard for some of the Marvel titles, there are less than 20 existing copies. So only a handful of people own a complete set. It gets even more limited with the 35c test copies. If they were printed same day, they were just much, much scarcer...and no UK 'test copies', the UK just got its regular UK shipment. |
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Post by tingramretro on Dec 11, 2015 2:05:31 GMT -5
But isn't the same day, same place, same print run true of the price variants in America (the 35 cent variant as opposed to the 30 cent, etc.) that were shipped to specific markets as a test? ( I am asking because I am not sure). Yet those have a perceived difference in value among collector's as well don't they? For me personally it's what's on the inside that matters, but people find all sorts of reasons to collect things that don't make a lick of sense to me in comics and elsewhere, so what ever bliss you follow and all that. -M I don't know anything about what you're talking about, but all the copies sent to the UK were printed on the same day in the same building as the ones with the American price, for at least three decades. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 2:31:31 GMT -5
But isn't the same day, same place, same print run true of the price variants in America (the 35 cent variant as opposed to the 30 cent, etc.) that were shipped to specific markets as a test? ( I am asking because I am not sure). Yet those have a perceived difference in value among collector's as well don't they? For me personally it's what's on the inside that matters, but people find all sorts of reasons to collect things that don't make a lick of sense to me in comics and elsewhere, so what ever bliss you follow and all that. -M I don't know anything about what you're talking about, but all the copies sent to the UK were printed on the same day in the same building as the ones with the American price, for at least three decades. Here's an example-Cap 212 had both 30 cent and 35 cent variants (as well as the Diamond box and pence variants....  the 35 cent variant was only available in certain cities/markets to test the new price I guess. There were 25 and 30 cent variants around the time of the cover price hike, and then again with 30 and 35 cents. But they are the same comic otherwise, but there are significant price differences for those variants (Overstreet lists them separately and most online dealers charge more for the variant) but other than cover price they are identical (and I assume of the same print run). -M |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 2:33:02 GMT -5
Here's what a 30 cent variant looked like, notice the still only 25 cent jagged balloon surrounding the 30 cent price  -M |
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Post by tingramretro on Dec 11, 2015 2:36:43 GMT -5
I don't know anything about what you're talking about, but all the copies sent to the UK were printed on the same day in the same building as the ones with the American price, for at least three decades. Here's an example-Cap 212 had both 30 cent and 35 cent variants (as well as the Diamond box and pence variants.... the 35 cent variant was only available in certain cities/markets to test the new price I guess. There were 25 and 30 cent variants around the time of the cover price hike, and then again with 30 and 35 cents. But they are the same comic otherwise, but there are significant price differences for those variants (Overstreet lists them separately and most online dealers charge more for the variant) but other than cover price they are identical (and I assume of the same print run). -M Interesting. I take it the price rose everywhere shortly afterwards? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 2:39:09 GMT -5
Cap 215 was the first regular 35 cent issue, but 210-214 had 35 cent variants. It was the same with several other Marvel titles as well.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 11, 2015 12:30:42 GMT -5
Cap 215 was the first regular 35 cent issue, but 210-214 had 35 cent variants. It was the same with several other Marvel titles as well. The first four issues of Marvel's Star Wars comic had 35¢ variants, before the price went up to 35¢ across the board with issue #5. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 18:25:03 GMT -5
@tingram, Are you aware of any unsold Marvel comics in the UK that had their covers removed, and were repackaged under a new cover in groups of 4? The UK's Thorpe & Porter used to do this with unsold DCs, but sometimes Marvel books would be mixed in.   Copyright was obviously ignored and the cool thing about these 'rebranded' publications, if you picked up 2 copies of the above 'double double' comic, the contents would be different. |
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 11, 2015 20:34:52 GMT -5
But isn't the same day, same place, same print run true of the price variants in America (the 35 cent variant as opposed to the 30 cent, etc.) that were shipped to specific markets as a test? ( I am asking because I am not sure). Yet those have a perceived difference in value among collector's as well don't they? For me personally it's what's on the inside that matters, but people find all sorts of reasons to collect things that don't make a lick of sense to me in comics and elsewhere, so what ever bliss you follow and all that. -M The 30c variants were only available in test markets in these areas and only some outlets got them Grand Rapids, MI Baltimore, MD San Antonio, TX San Jose, CA Albuquerque, NM Somewhere in Massachusetts It's difficult to estimate a print run because I've heard for some of the Marvel titles, there are less than 20 existing copies. So only a handful of people own a complete set. It gets even more limited with the 35c test copies. If they were printed same day, they were just much, much scarcer...and no UK 'test copies', the UK just got its regular UK shipment. I've never heard that. I bought some variants back in the day but most of them came from those infamous "3 in a bag" hangers we talked about a while back. |
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Post by tingramretro on Dec 12, 2015 3:02:28 GMT -5
@tingram, Are you aware of any unsold Marvel comics in the UK that had their covers removed, and were repackaged under a new cover in groups of 4? The UK's Thorpe & Porter used to do this with unsold DCs, but sometimes Marvel books would be mixed in. Copyright was obviously ignored and the cool thing about these 'rebranded' publications, if you picked up 2 copies of the above 'double double' comic, the contents would be different. Yes, I have a few of the Double-Double Comics, I researched them for a magazine article a few years back after finding my first one quite by chance on a market stall. One of my copies contains an issue of Amazing Spider-Man alongside the DC material. More info here britishcomics.wikia.com/wiki/Double_Double_Comics (all the covers shown are from my own collection) |
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Post by Confessor on Dec 13, 2015 10:16:40 GMT -5
I had no idea that these Double Double comic collections existed. What a cool idea! I'm kinda tempted to get my hands on some now.
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Post by tingramretro on Dec 13, 2015 13:23:09 GMT -5
I had no idea that these Double Double comic collections existed. What a cool idea! I'm kinda tempted to get my hands on some now. They do turn up on ebay from time to time. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 0:10:28 GMT -5
I had no idea that these Double Double comic collections existed. What a cool idea! I'm kinda tempted to get my hands on some now. They do turn up on ebay from time to time. I was in England earlier this year but drew blanks...again.... |
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