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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 28, 2015 6:20:29 GMT -5
A copyright applies to an original creative work (such as a comic book, play, novel, song, sculpture, photograph, choreography or architectural plan). A trademark applies to a name, logo or symbol used to identify commercial goods or services. So while the first three Fu Manchu novels are in the public domain and can be used and published by anyone, the name Fu Manchu is trademarked by the Rohmer Estate. Trademarks don't expire, as long as they are used. Hence Marvel being able to grab Daredevil, Captain Marvel, etc., after the trademark had expired. Yes, but doesn't that mean you can use Fu Manchu in your own stories as long as you don't advertise them as being Fu Manchu stories? The way some comic-book company started publishing Tarzan and John Carter comics after the first novels went into the public domain without calling them Tarzan and John Carter (both trademarked names)? When was this done? Are you saying they can't use his name at all or just on the cover ? Can they refer to them as Tarzan inside the Comic? |
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Post by foxley on Sept 28, 2015 7:25:31 GMT -5
Yes, but doesn't that mean you can use Fu Manchu in your own stories as long as you don't advertise them as being Fu Manchu stories? The way some comic-book company started publishing Tarzan and John Carter comics after the first novels went into the public domain without calling them Tarzan and John Carter (both trademarked names)? When was this done? Are you saying they can't use his name at all or just on the cover ? Can they refer to them as Tarzan inside the Comic? Dynamite's Lord of the Jungle and Warlord of Mars titles. The characters were referred to by name in the story, but not on the cover. The indicia also carried a disclaimer that the works were not authorised by ERB, Inc. Dynamite has since made a deal with ERB, Inc. and their current John Carter books are authorised publications. |
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 28, 2015 7:43:02 GMT -5
A copyright applies to an original creative work (such as a comic book, play, novel, song, sculpture, photograph, choreography or architectural plan). A trademark applies to a name, logo or symbol used to identify commercial goods or services. So while the first three Fu Manchu novels are in the public domain and can be used and published by anyone, the name Fu Manchu is trademarked by the Rohmer Estate. Trademarks don't expire, as long as they are used. Hence Marvel being able to grab Daredevil, Captain Marvel, etc., after the trademark had expired. Yes, but doesn't that mean you can use Fu Manchu in your own stories as long as you don't advertise them as being Fu Manchu stories? The way some comic-book company started publishing Tarzan and John Carter comics after the first novels went into the public domain without calling them Tarzan and John Carter (both trademarked names)? "Some comic book company"? You mean Dynamite Entertainment. Fast becoming one of the industry's major players. They did publish various ERB characters under generic titles for some years, but they've since struck a deal with the Burroughs estate to use the trademarked names. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 28, 2015 9:22:07 GMT -5
A copyright applies to an original creative work (such as a comic book, play, novel, song, sculpture, photograph, choreography or architectural plan). A trademark applies to a name, logo or symbol used to identify commercial goods or services. So while the first three Fu Manchu novels are in the public domain and can be used and published by anyone, the name Fu Manchu is trademarked by the Rohmer Estate. Trademarks don't expire, as long as they are used. Hence Marvel being able to grab Daredevil, Captain Marvel, etc., after the trademark had expired. Yes, but doesn't that mean you can use Fu Manchu in your own stories as long as you don't advertise them as being Fu Manchu stories? The way some comic-book company started publishing Tarzan and John Carter comics after the first novels went into the public domain without calling them Tarzan and John Carter (both trademarked names)? Yep. Which is what Moore did in LoEG. |
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Post by The Cheat on Sept 28, 2015 15:33:59 GMT -5
Another thing I like about the Epic Collection's vs the Omnibus format...I'm old school and like how they're printed on the flat, semi-pulpy paper. Don't the Omnibus books usually have the glossy pages? I do love the Epics, perfect size to read in one go without getting burnt out. Most the older Epics are the nicer (IMO) matte paper, as befitting the colouring of the time. The newer Epics (inc. Star Wars) + a few older ones (Mangog Thor) are thin glossy stock. |
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Post by String on Feb 18, 2016 18:45:19 GMT -5
Marvel has started soliciting these new collections, which is how I came across this amazing news.
Volume 1 is set for release on June 14. Amazon has it listed for $112, 696 pages collecting the following material:
SPECIAL MARVEL EDITION #15-16, MASTER OF KUNG FU (1974) #17-37, GIANT-SIZE MASTER OF KUNG FU #1-4, GIANT-SIZE SPIDER-MAN #2, and Material from IRON MAN ANNUAL #4
Now, that is quite a bit of money to shell out for one book. But I've been a fan of this series for some time and the prospect of Marvel finally reprinting it is hard to overlook.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 18, 2016 21:10:04 GMT -5
Marvel has started soliciting these new collections, which is how I came across this amazing news. Volume 1 is set for release on June 14. Amazon has it listed for $112, 696 pages collecting the following material: SPECIAL MARVEL EDITION #15-16, MASTER OF KUNG FU (1974) #17-37, GIANT-SIZE MASTER OF KUNG FU #1-4, GIANT-SIZE SPIDER-MAN #2, and Material from IRON MAN ANNUAL #4 Now, that is quite a bit of money to shell out for one book. But I've been a fan of this series for some time and the prospect of Marvel finally reprinting it is hard to overlook. I saw it on Amazon. THAT is one pricy book for only about 50 issues. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 18, 2016 21:25:58 GMT -5
It will be cheaper elsewhere. InStockTrades is generally the best, price-wise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 21:51:12 GMT -5
Nothing was ever said how the issues were the Rohmer estate were settled, it may have involved a large settlement to the estate from Disney which would increase the return needed on the reprints and thus the higher per issue price in the collection. But several of the Marvel omnibus collecting more obscure stuff have had the $125 price point for the collection and have had about the same number of issues/pages as the MoKF collection, so it might just be the going rate for the second tier collections.
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Post by coke & comics on Feb 21, 2016 14:08:29 GMT -5
Nothing was ever said how the issues were the Rohmer estate were settled, it may have involved a large settlement to the estate from Disney which would increase the return needed on the reprints and thus the higher per issue price in the collection. But several of the Marvel omnibus collecting more obscure stuff have had the $125 price point for the collection and have had about the same number of issues/pages as the MoKF collection, so it might just be the going rate for the second tier collections. -M Legal barriers tend to collapse in front of Disney. |
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Post by Warmonger on Feb 21, 2016 14:22:01 GMT -5
Marvel has started soliciting these new collections, which is how I came across this amazing news. Volume 1 is set for release on June 14. Amazon has it listed for $112, 696 pages collecting the following material: SPECIAL MARVEL EDITION #15-16, MASTER OF KUNG FU (1974) #17-37, GIANT-SIZE MASTER OF KUNG FU #1-4, GIANT-SIZE SPIDER-MAN #2, and Material from IRON MAN ANNUAL #4 Now, that is quite a bit of money to shell out for one book. But I've been a fan of this series for some time and the prospect of Marvel finally reprinting it is hard to overlook. Yep It's pricey, but most of my MoKF collection is falling apart at the seams from being re-read so many times over the years. Will be great to own the series in a couple of nice hardcovers with vibrant colors. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 21, 2016 15:12:51 GMT -5
I so want this book...
Except I can't justify buying it, having all but two of the issues it contains!!!
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Post by ziza9 on Feb 23, 2016 15:08:41 GMT -5
I'm conflicted, having spent so many years rounding up the individual issues of the series (starting with Moench's first issue) as well as some copies of Deadly Hands of Kung Fu that Shang appeared in. But I will surely break down get the omnibus collections. They do look nice on the shelf. They suck to sit down and read comfortably though. For reading purposes I'd rather have Epic collections. I could travel and read them or at least sit back on the couch and easily flip through them. Omnibus editions can be a bit unwieldy.
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Post by String on Apr 23, 2016 17:02:21 GMT -5
Now I've started seeing listing for omnibus collections of Deadly Hands of Kung Fu.
Vol.1 is set for an Nov release, at over 1000 pages for around $112, it collects DHoKF #1-18 and the first Special. Judging by the info, it will apparently reprint all the articles, reviews, and guides from those issues as well.
I'm not as sure about this as I am with MoKF. I only have a handful of issues from this title so I know little about it overall.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 24, 2016 7:45:49 GMT -5
I'm conflicted, having spent so many years rounding up the individual issues of the series (starting with Moench's first issue) as well as some copies of Deadly Hands of Kung Fu that Shang appeared in. But I will surely break down get the omnibus collections. They do look nice on the shelf. They suck to sit down and read comfortably though. For reading purposes I'd rather have Epic collections. I could travel and read them or at least sit back on the couch and easily flip through them. Omnibus editions can be a bit unwieldy. Usually, I stay away from high priced books that reprint material I have, but if they drop in price , I'll get it. If they offered that MOKF for around 60 in eBay , I would buy it. |
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