Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Sept 30, 2015 0:27:07 GMT -5
I think my strongest memory of Tyranny Rex was when Soft Bodies ended, and someone wrote in to the letters page to ask what it had actually been about. Tharg replied "it was about 50 pages". Which was probably just some editor riffing of Bob Dylan, who is seen in D. A, Pennebaker's 1965 documentary film "Don't Look Back" being asked by a journalist what his songs are about. Dylan mischievously answers, "well, some are about 3 minutes, some are about 4 minutes and some are even about 6 or 7 minutes."
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2000 AD
Sept 30, 2015 1:24:33 GMT -5
Post by tingramretro on Sept 30, 2015 1:24:33 GMT -5
What have you read so far? Ballad of Halo Jones. D. R. & Quinch. Lazarus Churchyard (which I understand appeared somewhere else first). Skizz. I think that's it. I've read a handful of Judge Dredd stories, but can't remember which. Lazarus Churchyard was actually a strip from Blast!, a short lived title from another publisher, but it was reprinted in the Judge Dredd Megazine. It never actually appeared in 2000 AD. Skizz is one of my favourite series'. Very underrated, I think. Cornelius Cardew may actually be my favourite 2000 AD character.
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2000 AD
Sept 30, 2015 1:45:40 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 1:45:40 GMT -5
I read Lazarus Churchyard in the Final Cut tpb Image put out in the early 2000s... -M
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 30, 2015 2:46:15 GMT -5
Saturday morning just isn't the same for me unless I've sat down with a big mug of coffee, a bacon & sausage stottie, and this week's 2000AD. The perfect way to start to the weekend Stottie: type of bread product with any one of a number of fillings, originating in the North East of England. This has been a public service announcement.
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2000 AD
Sept 30, 2015 3:08:53 GMT -5
Post by tingramretro on Sept 30, 2015 3:08:53 GMT -5
One of the most infamous 2000 AD covers of all time. It was shown again in response to several requests, but also received several complaints of sexism...which led to it being shown yet again for illustrative purposes. Finally, they just turned it into a poster.
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2000 AD
Sept 30, 2015 11:14:01 GMT -5
Post by tingramretro on Sept 30, 2015 11:14:01 GMT -5
I sampled some Dredd from Eagle Comics collections when I was in high school but wasn't felling it, I should check some out now since my tastes have changed. I recently read the Robo-Hunter Verdus trade collection which was decent but didn't really wow me, and I have checked out a couple of the FCBD issues of 2000AD that have come out but none inspired me to actually check out the new issues being released. I think the problem with the FCBD issues is that they're usually not by creators who are working on the main title, often who haven't ever worked on the main title, and they necessarily have no direct continuity with any of the ongoing series'. As such, despite the odd moderately good strip, they're usually pretty mediocre and forgettable, and I doubt they'd inspire anyone to pick up the weekly.
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2000 AD
Sept 30, 2015 17:00:14 GMT -5
Post by coke & comics on Sept 30, 2015 17:00:14 GMT -5
I have only read bits and pieces reprinted in collections over the years. Most of the Alan Moore stuff, plus a few other series, Rogue Trooper and such. I've been reading through Judge Dredd via the Complete Case Files, but am not yet very far.
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Post by tingramretro on Oct 1, 2015 2:44:24 GMT -5
I have only read bits and pieces reprinted in collections over the years. Most of the Alan Moore stuff, plus a few other series, Rogue Trooper and such. I've been reading through Judge Dredd via the Complete Case Files, but am not yet very far. I really wish they'd bring back Rogue Trooper. Either of them.
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2000 AD
Oct 5, 2015 12:14:56 GMT -5
Post by tingramretro on Oct 5, 2015 12:14:56 GMT -5
Finding this cover for the latest cover contest reminded me of one of the oddest strips in 2000 AD. Black Hawk, the creation of Gerry Finley-Day and Alfonso Azpiri, first appeared in the fourth issue of Tornado, an anthology title that lasted just 22 weekly issues. As originally conceived, he was a Nubian slave who first became a Roman gladiator, and ended up winning his freedom and commanding a Legion. When Tornado folded, publishers IPC, as was customary at the time, moved two of its most popular strips into another publication in order to keep hold of some readers. Unfortunately, the only book available to take them was 2000 AD, and a Roman soldier seemed a little out of place in a sci-fi anthology...so in a rather bewildering move, the purely historical series became SF, with Black Hawk whisked off into space to fight in an alien arena, then (when that direction proved unpopular with readers) deprived of his soul by the alien Soul Sucker and sent on a protracted quest to find it again. Blackie was last seen disappearing into a Black Hole, which may well have come as something of a relief for him under the circumstances...
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2000 AD
Oct 5, 2015 15:13:31 GMT -5
Post by The Cheat on Oct 5, 2015 15:13:31 GMT -5
As originally conceived, he was a Nubian slave who first became a Roman gladiator, and ended up winning his freedom and commanding a Legion. There was something with the same premise recently. Aquila was it? Was the new strip some sort of homage that went over my head?
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Post by tingramretro on Oct 6, 2015 1:45:03 GMT -5
As originally conceived, he was a Nubian slave who first became a Roman gladiator, and ended up winning his freedom and commanding a Legion. There was something with the same premise recently. Aquila was it? Was the new strip some sort of homage that went over my head? Basically, yes. Even down to Aquila having the black, pupilless eyes that Black Hawk later had. I think someone at 2000 AD described Aquila as "Black Hawk, done right", which having a grudging fondness for the original, I would tend to dispute...
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Post by berkley on Oct 7, 2015 1:14:12 GMT -5
Finding this cover for the latest cover contest reminded me of one of the oddest strips in 2000 AD. Black Hawk, the creation of Gerry Finley-Day and Alfonso Azpiri, first appeared in the fourth issue of Tornado, an anthology title that lasted just 22 weekly issues. As originally conceived, he was a Nubian slave who first became a Roman gladiator, and ended up winning his freedom and commanding a Legion. When Tornado folded, publishers IPC, as was customary at the time, moved two of its most popular strips into another publication in order to keep hold of some readers. Unfortunately, the only book available to take them was 2000 AD, and a Roman soldier seemed a little out of place in a sci-fi anthology...so in a rather bewildering move, the purely historical series became SF, with Black Hawk whisked off into space to fight in an alien arena, then (when that direction proved unpopular with readers) deprived of his soul by the alien Soul Sucker and sent on a protracted quest to find it again. Blackie was last seen disappearing into a Black Hole, which may well have come as something of a relief for him under the circumstances... This stirred my curiosity when I saw it in the cover contest. How good or bad was the original, the historical fiction story in Tornado? And "Nubian slave" - was the cover a colouring error or did they change that too it moved to 2000AD?
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Post by tingramretro on Oct 7, 2015 1:30:08 GMT -5
Finding this cover for the latest cover contest reminded me of one of the oddest strips in 2000 AD. Black Hawk, the creation of Gerry Finley-Day and Alfonso Azpiri, first appeared in the fourth issue of Tornado, an anthology title that lasted just 22 weekly issues. As originally conceived, he was a Nubian slave who first became a Roman gladiator, and ended up winning his freedom and commanding a Legion. When Tornado folded, publishers IPC, as was customary at the time, moved two of its most popular strips into another publication in order to keep hold of some readers. Unfortunately, the only book available to take them was 2000 AD, and a Roman soldier seemed a little out of place in a sci-fi anthology...so in a rather bewildering move, the purely historical series became SF, with Black Hawk whisked off into space to fight in an alien arena, then (when that direction proved unpopular with readers) deprived of his soul by the alien Soul Sucker and sent on a protracted quest to find it again. Blackie was last seen disappearing into a Black Hole, which may well have come as something of a relief for him under the circumstances... This stirred my curiosity when I saw it in the cover contest. How good or bad was the original, the historical fiction story in Tornado? And "Nubian slave" - was the cover a colouring error or did they change that too it moved to 2000AD? The original strip was actually pretty good, considerably better than the later stuff and actually historically accurate, as far as it could be. And yes, Black Hawk should indeed be black. The series was in black & white, but he was obviously black. I've no idea why he's coloured that way on this particular cover.
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Post by berkley on Oct 7, 2015 1:56:22 GMT -5
Back issues of Tornado itself seem to be highly priced, unfortunately, I find after a quick look online. Going by the covers, it looks like an unusual mix of stories - SF, horror, sports, all kinds of stuff.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Oct 7, 2015 3:53:03 GMT -5
I was never a fan of any of the Tornado strips and was quite glad to eventually see them all go. Starlord however contributed so much more to 2000AD after its sad demise. Pity there wasnt the audience to support both as I thought it stood on its own quite well.
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