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Post by berkley on Oct 27, 2015 17:40:39 GMT -5
I can sort of understand how the sheer absurdity of Squirrel Girl is appealing to some fans but the visual is such a turn-off for me that I can't generate any goodwill towards the character.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 27, 2015 17:51:31 GMT -5
I can sort of understand how the sheer absurdity of Squirrel Girl is appealing to some fans but the visual is such a turn-off for me that I can't generate any goodwill towards the character. I've only read one or two Squirrel Girl stories, but I've seen articles about her. To me, she seems to be used (usually successfully) to knock the stuffing out of characters and situations that are taken far too seriously. I can certainly understand why some fans don't like her. |
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Post by Farrar on Oct 27, 2015 18:29:50 GMT -5
I got a great deal on the book so I bought it a few months ago when it was published (Ish, slight typo in the OP, publication year is 2015 not 2013). It's an enjoyable read, and seems to be an expansion of author Jon Morris's blog Gone and Forgotten. I enjoyed the exposure to some characters I'd never heard about, such as Charlton's Nature Boy--drawn by John Buscema! But some of the choices for Silver and Bronze Age "regrettables" puzzled me; for example, would you really call Dial H For Hero "regrettable?" Also, I don't have the book in front of me at the moment but I recall wondering why the author repeatedly called Bozo "Bozo the Iron Man" (other than to, you know, associate Bozo with the popular Marvel characater) in his text but included illustrations that contained references to the character as "Bozo the Robot." I would have included the names of the artists (when known) for the illustrations provided. He does include credits for the original creative teams. It does look like a fun book, but I'm catching at the 'regrettable' bit. That hint of judgment, of disdain, bothers me. Fantomah is indeed in the book, as is Squirrel Girl; 2 of my favorite characters. Ah well, tastes vary, and it's just a word. I'll probably break down and get the book sooner or later. I agree; it doesn't fit and IIRC Morris doesn't explain why he uses that particular word. It's the book's title that is, well, regrettable (in the sense that it's misleading, IMO).    |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 22:30:53 GMT -5
After reading about the propeller beanie, I had to check out Bozo -   Notice that he's called the 'Iron Man' in both of these. Looks like they used both Iron Man and Robot to refer to him back in the day. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 27, 2015 22:54:26 GMT -5
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 27, 2015 23:09:13 GMT -5
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 27, 2015 23:10:17 GMT -5
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Post by tingramretro on Oct 28, 2015 3:03:10 GMT -5
I'd never heard of this guy until Marvel resurrected him for The Twelve a few years ago,, but for some reason he really made an impression on me. I wish they'd bring him back. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 8:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by Farrar on Oct 28, 2015 10:27:29 GMT -5
After reading about the propeller beanie, I had to check out Bozo - ... Notice that he's called the 'Iron Man' in both of these. Looks like they used both Iron Man and Robot to refer to him back in the day. Right. But the illustrations used in Morris's book didn't support the Iron Man nickname, so I was curious where Morris got that description from. I'm at work so I don't have the book handy, but the covers Morris included were along the lines of these two below, which label the character Bozo the Robot. I thought, if you're (Morris) going to call him "Iron Man," there should be some illustrative evidence (in the book) backing that up.   I had checked online a few months ago when I first read the book and, like jodoc, I saw that Bozo was called Hugh Hazzard's Iron Man on Smash Comics #1 and #3's covers plus in some captions. It seems that at the beginning of the series, the focus was on Hugh Hazzard (the guy inside Bozo, or controlling him):  However it appears Bozo himself (itself?) quickly caught on and Hazzard's role, or marquee value, receded. Bozo became the series star and became more popularly known as Bozo the Robot, instead of just as a supporting player (Hugh Hazzard and his Iron Man).  So now that I am writing all this down (thanks to the CCF discussion here!), I can guess why Morris didn't include covers or images that specifically proclaimed "Bozo the Iron Man"--there probably were none. At least none that prominently displayed a "Bozo the Iron Man" label, and not just "the Iron Man" or HH's Iron Man. |
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Post by tingramretro on Oct 28, 2015 11:20:52 GMT -5
Aeroika Torpedo Powerhouse All from Marvel Comics I rather liked all of these guys. Especially Powerhouse. A shame they basically killed him off-panel. |
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Post by Rob Allen on Oct 28, 2015 11:41:25 GMT -5
"The Clown" sounds very similar to Siegel & Shuster's "Funnyman", the character they did at Magazine Enterprises after getting booted from Superman. Funnyman fought crime with humor/gag-themed weapons, but instead of being fat like The Clown, he resembled Danny Kaye.
Is Funnyman in the book?
Also, except for those two issues, weren't all of Captain Tootsie's appearances in ads? He was a sort of predecessor of the Hostess ads in the 70s.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 28, 2015 12:03:08 GMT -5
Continuing on...
Doctor Hormone -Created by Robert Briggs 1st appearance Popular Comics (Dell) # 54 Aug 1940
Doctor Hormone, and that's his real name, an older scientist, invents a hormone that makes him young. Using the power of his hormones, assisted by his granddaughter Judy Hormone, he decides to fight crime. He can de-age people. He can make babies into men. He can turn boy scouts to soldiers. He can turn people to half-animal hybrids. He can thumb his nose at medical ethics
His brief amount of appearances were in a rarely scene at that time serial format. He disappeared but its rumored he moved to Brazil to work with the transgendered community
Doctor Vampire -Creators unknown 1st appearance Skyrocket Comics (Harry A Chesler) #1 1944
He's not a vampire. He fight vampires. But he doesn't recognize someones a vampire even if they have a mouthful of drooling fangs. He's armed with a stick. No wonder he lasted just for one story
Doll Man-Created by Will Eisner 1st appearance Feature Comics (Quality) #27
I don't know why Jon Morris included this hero. It seems he did just because the power of shrinking to six inches is something no one would aspire to. Ant-man had his ants, The Atom had size and density. . controls. The Doll Man had nothing else. But he lasted along time in Feature Comics, usually cover featured and popular enough to maintain his own title too. He had a dog named Elmo and a girlfriend who became Doll Girl
Dynamite Thor- Created by Wright Lincoln 1st appearance Weird Comics (Fox) #6 1940
Peter Thor is an expert on explosives and figures a way to be immune to all forms of them. He can still be knocked out if you manually hit him on the head. He uses explosives to fight crime. He flew by setting off an explosion. He had a belt full of explosive material. Little children shouldn't emulate this hero
The Eye- Created by Frank Thomas 1st appearance Keen Detective Funnies (Centaur) Vol. 2 # 12 Dec 1939
A disembodied eyeball that speaks amidst flames or smoke. A crime fighting optical orb. It flew, it vanished, it melted steel, it needed human help to get things done. A dozen appearances and no origin.
It might have been Eyetalian
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Oct 28, 2015 12:07:43 GMT -5
" Is Funnyman in the book? Also, except for those two issues, weren't all of Captain Tootsie's appearances in ads? He was a sort of predecessor of the Hostess ads in the 70s. If Funnyman or Fantomah is in the book, it will be revealed tomorrow. Trying to keep some semblance of suspense here. All this Squirrel Girl talk and there'll be nothing to say about her when her turn finally comes up Correct about Captain Tootsie too. A dentist's favorite hero |
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Post by Confessor on Oct 28, 2015 15:49:58 GMT -5
I'd never heard of this guy until Marvel resurrected him for The Twelve a few years ago,, but for some reason he really made an impression on me. I wish they'd bring him back. Likewise. Rockman and (the original) Black Widow both made a big impression on me from their appearance in The Twelve. |
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