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Post by EdoBosnar on Aug 20, 2018 3:34:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd love reprint collections of Amazing World and Foom, but yeah, they'd probably end up being costly, even if published in the soft-cover Epic-type format. The thing is, it should have been done years ago when DC and Marvel were still doing their Showcase and Essentials editions - I would have been perfectly happy with reprints of those magazines in an expensive b&w format.
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Post by brutalis on Aug 20, 2018 7:35:26 GMT -5
All of the Cockrum Legion issues are collected in Showcase Present the Legion of Super-Heroes #4 and #5 in glorious black and white. Just a few issues at the very end of #4 with the majority in #5 which includes the start of Grell's run following Cockrum.
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 20, 2018 13:25:12 GMT -5
I can find Vol. 5 of those b&w reprints easily under $10, thank you! I wonder why Vol. 3 & 4 are listed around $40+ though. Those crazy collectors! Maybe I'll have to keep watching... I eventually got those Marvel Tales reprinting the deaths of Gwen Stacy and Green Goblin at a reasonable price when so many had $25+ on them each... reprints used to be the cheapest few wanted them items when I collected the first time.
Reading the Alter Ego with a big article on Cockrum... so much I didn't know! I've been to Pendleton Oregon where he was born a couple of times. The stories about him being sent the covers for Green Lantern #40 and Hawkman #11 were great to read about too (I had both at one time), so cool that there was the opportunity, and Shooter got in that way kind of too!
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Post by Farrar on Aug 20, 2018 22:59:20 GMT -5
It's been awhile since I have read a LSH comic. Couple of questions. I guess Superboy's memories were removed every time he returned to the past by someone in the Legion? Or was it just select memories that would affect him as Superman such as Supergirl's existence? Not sure if this will help as there likely have been updates/retcons, but based on the Silver Age Legion stories I've read: It was established that Superboy's memories of "his future life" were erased...primarily the existence of Supergirl but also, for example, learning about Batman, as shown in Adv. #341 (a couple of panels below). Not exactly sure how a post-hypnotic suggestion could be so selective, but I guess Supergirl (she's the one who implanted the post-hypnotic suggestion) knew what she was doing!    So he's able to recall Computo, but he can't recall the details of the battle, because some of those details (the existence of Batman) touch upon his future life as Superman. Was Mon-El permanently cured from lead poisoning or did he have to take something everyday to prevent the lead poisoning from returning? Again, based on what was printed back in the 1960s/1970-1: Mon-El had to ingest the serum on a regular basis. Over the years the time intervals between dosages seems to have changed (guess Brainy or someone kept changing the formula). For example a text feature in 1965's Adventure #329 said Mon had to take the serum every 24 hours; a few years later in the Legion story in Action #384, Mon-El says he takes the serum every 8 hours. |
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Post by brutalis on Sept 11, 2018 9:02:56 GMT -5
Thinking upon the Legion romances, my favorite coupling's were for Ultra Boy/Phantom Girl, Karate Kid and Princess Projectra and Brainiac 5/Supergirl. For Ultra/PG there was something which just felt "right" about them as a pair and it reminded me of many couples I knew in high school/life. KK/Projectra was the classic trope of the crossed lovers from the wrong side of the tracks: the poor kid grew up on the streets rough side of life and the rich/princess out of his league with a heart of gold where the 2 are united despite all that the differences and problems which might instead separate them. Finally the star crossed doomed and unfulfilled lovers Romeo/Juliet type where time/history/destiny itself prevents Brainy/Kara from ever really having any kind of a relationship.
These were the 3 which carried the most interest for me during my time reading the LOSH.
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 12, 2018 17:08:38 GMT -5
I've read the first 20 issues of the revived Legion/Supergirl & Legion circa 2005-2006, and having never read anything by Waid before I enjoyed it (21-25 hopefully on their way), I even liked the unusual letter column pages! I am annoyed Dream Girl is killed but maybe she's going to be brought back in the issues to come, or not quite... there's a modern logic applied while keeping things fun, and including vintage comic books within the comic while not blowing the reality worked for me too. It does have some of the '60s Legion in there somehow while being entirely modernized with Science Police and United Planets politics, and the Public Service thing. Shrinking Violet being a myht to newer members was a great touch too. Glad I got these! Was there anything leading into it before Legion #1 Feb. 2005?  |
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Post by rberman on Sept 13, 2018 12:11:10 GMT -5
I've read the first 20 issues of the revived Legion/Supergirl & Legion circa 2005-2006, and having never read anything by Waid before I enjoyed it (21-25 hopefully on their way), I even liked the unusual letter column pages! I am annoyed Dream Girl is killed but maybe she's going to be brought back in the issues to come, or not quite... there's a modern logic applied while keeping things fun, and including vintage comic books within the comic while not blowing the reality worked for me too. It does have some of the '60s Legion in there somehow while being entirely modernized with Science Police and United Planets politics, and the Public Service thing. Shrinking Violet being a myth to newer members was a great touch too. Glad I got these! Was there anything leading into it before Legion #1 Feb. 2005? I remembered having and reading these as TPB, so I went back to dig it out. I liked how Waid was using the Legion, a club for kids, as a vehicle for exploring inter-generational conflicts. In his run, the Legion consists not just of superheroes but of 80,000 (and growing) other galactic kids who subscribe to their values, upsetting their staid culture with an activist spirit. The core Legion themselves are all huge fans of Silver Age DC comics, reading them and playing comic book trivia games. Sun Boy's parents are hippies who know more about the minutiae of Legion lore than Sun Boy himself does, and they offer a prescient critique of modern internet culture:  |
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 13, 2018 21:54:41 GMT -5
Just read #21-25 and still enjoying it, so maybe three more issues or whenever Waid/Kitson ends? They change Sun Boy's appearance suddenly with no explanation in these five issues; I wasn't sure who he was for a few balloons actually... quite jarring.
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Post by brutalis on Sept 28, 2018 9:07:18 GMT -5
Been thinking on Ultra boy and his use of a singular super "power" and how most of the time in stories he was switching back and forth between powers like super strength to invulnerability and such. How is it that he isn't a dead man already? How hard would it be to take him down in between changes in powers or to hit him with something deadly when he isn't invulnerable? Super strength is great, but oh look they are going to drop a building on me and I will be crushed so as quick as he can think it he switches to being invulnerable or say the same idea but someone is pointing a laser at him. Can he actually out-think and react quickly enough switching back and forth when fighting to prevent his being killed or maimed? What happens with multiple attackers and varying attacks at the same instance? Just a thought I have had which has been tickling my brain for awhile now.
Similar thoughts on Matter-Eater Lad. Is there anything he cannot eat or limits? What about any allergic reactions? Does he have stock in intergalactic Pepto-Bismal or Alka-Seltzer? Would indigestion put him out of the fight? Is he able to over eat or does he have an upper limit? Imagine what his metabolism must be like so that he doesn't end up weighing kilo-tons! And how does his body handle all these elements in his body and break them down? Would you really want to be within a mile of him after he has eaten his way through adversaries? What kind of gas build up are we talking about her? Lethal to all in the same room or a miles radius? Travelling by space ship with Matter-Eater Lad do you receive hazardous duty pay?
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Post by rberman on Sept 28, 2018 9:51:14 GMT -5
Been thinking on Ultra boy and his use of a singular super "power" and how most of the time in stories he was switching back and forth between powers like super strength to invulnerability and such. How is it that he isn't a dead man already? How hard would it be to take him down in between changes in powers or to hit him with something deadly when he isn't invulnerable? Super strength is great, but oh look they are going to drop a building on me and I will be crushed so as quick as he can think it he switches to being invulnerable or say the same idea but someone is pointing a laser at him. Can he actually out-think and react quickly enough switching back and forth when fighting to prevent his being killed or maimed? What happens with multiple attackers and varying attacks at the same instance? Just a thought I have had which has been tickling my brain for awhile now. Some degree of toughness is inherent in super strength. Your muscles and bones would have to have enormous tensile resilience, or else the contraction of your super-strength would rip your own body apart. Unless "super-strength" is actually a form of telekinesis. Comic books constantly ignore the law of conservation of energy anyway. In real life, pretty much any super-punch would be fatal to a regular human, rather than just sending him flying. And any blow that renders you unconscious would also leave you impaired for days to weeks. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 11:44:45 GMT -5
beccabear67 ... I'm thinking of reading Supergirl and the Legion later on this year and I have a friend that has the complete set and thanks for your suggestion here.
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Post by rberman on Sept 28, 2018 13:17:49 GMT -5
I was just re-reading the original "Superboy meets Mon-El" story which was wacky enough on its own. (A gang of catapult-using criminals attack the Smallville bank from a nearby hillside! Film at eleven.) But sandwiched between "Superboy discovers that Mon-El is not really from Krypton" (spoiler!) and "Superboy and Mon-El figure out Mon-El's actual origin" is this bizarre sequence in which Superboy goes to school:    So... right after Superboy talks about how important it is that he not get a perfect score lest his super-brain attract undue attention, he sneaks out of class to visit the past and ensure that he does give the correct answer on a test, even if it means lying to his teacher, intruding upon a bathing woman, and then debating about French etymology with his teacher. Sounds like he had difficulty letting go of that perfect score after all! Then to top it off, he uses his super-breath to surprise an unprepared Lana during an outdoor ballet class. Wacky Silver Age antics abound... |
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Post by Rob Allen on Sept 28, 2018 15:24:14 GMT -5
I think the writer or editor had just read about the mistranslation of "fur" to "glass" and wanted to use it in a story. But the mistranslation story has been debunked: www.snopes.com/fact-check/glass-slippers/ |
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Post by rberman on Sept 28, 2018 15:57:04 GMT -5
I think the writer or editor had just read about the mistranslation of "fur" to "glass" and wanted to use it in a story. But the mistranslation story has been debunked: www.snopes.com/fact-check/glass-slippers/Yep.it just seemed out of place in the middle of this Mon-El story. I smell filler! P.S. did kids really dress like that in high school in the early 1960s? Clark has a tie, and the guy behind him has a jacket and tie! |
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 28, 2018 16:48:37 GMT -5
beccabear67 ... I'm thinking of reading Supergirl and the Legion later on this year and I have a friend that has the complete set and thanks for your suggestion here. I think it was sabongero posting a cover of #17 that let me know the series with her in the title even existed (nothing about it in the Supergirl solo title from the same time period which seems a by mistake by DC, at least up to #10 where I ended). I got Legion #1-15, Supergirl & The Legion #16-30 and am going to end there as it looks like there is a permanent creative team change after that. |
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