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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 11, 2016 22:16:04 GMT -5
I'm not sure Gwen Stacy counts as a Supporting Character anymore  I LOVE Bibbo... he's like this strangely awesome mix of Popeye and Sam from Cheers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 1:04:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure Gwen Stacy counts as a Supporting Character anymore I LOVE Bibbo... he's like this strangely awesome mix of Popeye and Sam from Cheers. In some ways she isn't and other ways she is. Before I put her on my list of supporting characters on this thread and I did conduct a poll at the Comic Book Store I go to and about 65% of the people that I talked to said she is and the remainder said no. I was wrestling with this from the get go and decided to include her in the first place. She usually is but I can see where you are coming from. Good Call Wildfire2099! I'm glad you love Bibbo! ... I loved your description of him! |
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Post by Confessor on Jan 12, 2016 6:15:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure Gwen Stacy counts as a Supporting Character anymore The original Gwen Stacy is very much a supporting character, I'd say, but the alternate reality Gwen who has recently become the appallingly badly named Spider-Gwen isn't. She has her own book now, right? |
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Post by Confessor on Jan 12, 2016 6:38:36 GMT -5
To be honest with you when I read Spider-Man during this time frame the way the Artist drew her in my own standard was not the best Stacy Gwen that I seen and I was a little upset of the way she was portrayed here and having said that - I didn't care for her during this time because the personality that she was. I have a hard time accepting this and that's why I did not care for her attitude at the time that she was brought up. I just don't know what was Marvel Comics was thinking - but I did not care for it at all. I'm talking about the way she was presented here that's shown by these two pictures below:   Those two panels are drawn by two different artists. That's Steve Ditko in the first panel and John Romita in the second. Romita's Gwen is my favourite, but Ditko's was also good, albeit in a much harsher way. I can't believe that you're not keen on Ditko and Romita's depictions of Gwen though. To me, they're the the gold standard of how Gwen Stacy should look (particularly Romita's take on her) and the look that everyone since has copied. I guess one man's meat is another man's poison and all that. So, having said that I stopped reading Spider-Man and when they made changes to her look and I don't exactly when they did this - I started loving her more and more and I almost at the time that Peter Parker had two ladies in his life Stacy and Mary Jane in his life and made him more human and that's put her into a more prominent role after that. It was these pictures below that puts her into the Nest 50 Supporting List of All-Time   I just loved this version of her here! OK, now I'm confused because the head shot on the left hand side of that last pic is also by Romita. No idea who did the image of Gwen in the red dress, but the one above is actually the Gwen Stacy clone, rather than the real Gwen. That particular image is from the front cover of Spectacular Spider-Man Annual #8 and is drawn by Sal Buscema, but he's very much taking his lead from Ross Andru's depiction of the Gwen clone in the original clone saga from the mid-'70s. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 10:16:36 GMT -5
Confessor - Sorry that you got confused here and I just have no explanation for this and I was searching for pictures to be used for this thread and these are the "ones" that liked! ... Sorry Confessor! 
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 12, 2016 13:40:32 GMT -5
I'm not sure Gwen Stacy counts as a Supporting Character anymore The original Gwen Stacy is very much a supporting character, I'd say, but the alternate reality Gwen who has recently become the appallingly badly named Spider-Gwen isn't. She has her own book now, right? She has a regular title... and there a 'Gwenpool' parody... and there's Spiderverse, where I'm sure she'll turn up |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 13:46:35 GMT -5
J Jonah Jameson - Supporting Character for Spider-ManFirst Appearance: The Amazing Spider-Man #1 (March 1963)  One of my favorite Spider-Man Issues in the glory days of Marvel Comics! First of All ... I want to start out praising the Actor who portrayed him in Spider-Man movies is J.K. Simmons and he did a great job doing so and I just wanted to share some of his best moments in a You Tube that I liked so much and that's why he was superb. Just watch the video and you see why he was so freaking good!  J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson. He's deserved the 5 stars that I gave him for his role as Boss of the Daily Bugle!     And, manufacturing these headlines ... Wow!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 14:01:25 GMT -5
Many Personalities of J. Jonah Jameson This display his hatred for Spider-Man and he doesn't know that Peter Parker and Spider-Man are the same. I can clearly say this with the great pictures that Peter takes - it's brings more revenues to the Daily Bugle and that's makes him stand living in the same city as he in! ... I just loved the smiles on Peter's face as he counts he bills that Jonah paid to him!  Only if he knew that Peter Parker is Spider-Man ... This is my favorite panel in Spider-Man Comic Books!  It was short-lived and Spider-Man came back and he starts attacking him all over again and again Peter Parker still taking pictures of him and life goes on in the Daily Bugle. I just loved the expression of his face here!  Demanding, Tough, Arrogant, Focused, and Plain ole Bossy ... that's Jonah Jameson and one of my favorite Supporting Characters in Marvel Universe. There is not enough adjectives in the English Language to describe him folks!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 12, 2016 15:20:15 GMT -5
J. Jonah Jameson is Spider-Man's arch-nemesis.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jan 12, 2016 15:53:11 GMT -5
J. Jonah Jameson is Spider-Man's arch-nemesis. Definitely agree. The only person harder on Spidey is himself.
ETA: I know I've mentioned it before, but ASM #192 gave us a chillingly candid look into the psyche of JJJ. In the aftermath of a gueling 24 hours with Spider-Man and JJJ handcuffed to a bomb courtesy of Spencer Smythe, Wolfman, Pollard, and Mooney present this marvelous denouement:
I don't know if this is the first time Jonah's reasoning for his persecution of Spider-Man is presented thusly, but it's always struck me as being a particularly powerful and enlightening scene.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 17:15:31 GMT -5
J. Jonah Jameson is Spider-Man's arch-nemesis. Definitely agree. The only person harder on Spidey is himself.
ETA: I know I've mentioned it before, but ASM #192 gave us a chillingly candid look into the psyche of JJJ. In the aftermath of a gueling 24 hours with Spider-Man and JJJ handcuffed to a bomb courtesy of Spencer Smythe, Wolfman, Pollard, and Mooney present this marvelous denouement:
I don't know if this is the first time Jonah's reasoning for his persecution of Spider-Man is presented thusly, but it's always struck me as being a particularly powerful and enlightening scene.
Thanks for sharing this Phil ... I didn't see this coming and you showed a side of Jonah that I did not see! |
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Post by Confessor on Jan 13, 2016 11:43:10 GMT -5
Confessor - Sorry that you got confused here and I just have no explanation for this and I was searching for pictures to be used for this thread and these are the "ones" that liked! ... Sorry Confessor! Hey, no problem, MechaGodzilla. I'm really enjoying this thread so far! First of All ... I want to start out praising the Actor who portrayed him in Spider-Man movies is J.K. Simmons and he did a great job doing so and I just wanted to share some of his best moments in a You Tube that I liked so much and that's why he was superb. Just watch the video and you see why he was so freaking good! 100% agreed, MG. J. K. Simmons's portrayal of J. Jonah Jameson was case of perfect casting (and script writing). It was like watching a Spider-Man comic come to life, which wasn't always the case with the Sam Raimi Spidey films. *cough* Green *cough* Goblin *cough* J. Jonah Jameson is Spider-Man's arch-nemesis. Quoted for truth. |
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Post by Confessor on Jan 13, 2016 12:36:58 GMT -5
I don't know if this is the first time Jonah's reasoning for his persecution of Spider-Man is presented thusly, but it's always struck me as being a particularly powerful and enlightening scene. My unreliable memory and "gut" tell me that this kind of motivation for J. J. Jameson's hatred of Spidey had been hinted at during the Romita era and even during the Ditko era too, I think, but I don't believe that it was ever as explicitly put as it is here. I really like that late '70s Marv Wolfman era of Amazing Spider-Man. It's really underrated. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 13, 2016 12:49:06 GMT -5
I don't know if this is the first time Jonah's reasoning for his persecution of Spider-Man is presented thusly, but it's always struck me as being a particularly powerful and enlightening scene. My unreliable memory and "gut" tell me that this kind of motivation for J. J. Jameson's hatred of Spidey had been hinted at during the Romita era and even during the Ditko era too, I think, but I don't believe that it was ever as explicitly put as it is here. I really like that late '70s Marv Woldman era of Amazing Spider-Man. It's really underrated. I recall at one point that Jameson professed part of his hatred for Spider-Man being that he was getting hero worship that should have gone to a real hero like Jameson's son. |
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Post by Confessor on Jan 13, 2016 13:02:26 GMT -5
My unreliable memory and "gut" tell me that this kind of motivation for J. J. Jameson's hatred of Spidey had been hinted at during the Romita era and even during the Ditko era too, I think, but I don't believe that it was ever as explicitly put as it is here. I really like that late '70s Marv Woldman era of Amazing Spider-Man. It's really underrated. I recall at one point that Jameson professed part of his hatred for Spider-Man being that he was getting hero worship that should have gone to a real hero like Jameson's son. Ah yes! You're absolutely right. I'd forgotten about that. |
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