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Post by Confessor on Feb 16, 2016 6:46:29 GMT -5
I assumed he never appeared in an issue of Jonah Hex? Maybe not classic...but definitely modern. Artwork stinks though. If memory serves, Jonah also guest appeared in a couple of Bronze Age issues of Justice Society of America in some time travel related story, during which he interacted with Superman. Not the same as Supes having appeared in a Bronze Age Jonah Hex comic, but close.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 8:39:48 GMT -5
Maybe not classic...but definitely modern. Artwork stinks though. If memory serves, Jonah also guest appeared in a couple of Bronze Age issues of Justice Society of America in some time travel related story, during which he interacted with Superman. Not the same as Supes having appeared in a Bronze Age Jonah Hex comic, but close. Was it JLA, not JSA Confessor? The only one I can think of you might be referring to is this one... -M
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 16, 2016 9:24:02 GMT -5
Or this "Crisis"...
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Post by Confessor on Feb 16, 2016 10:20:38 GMT -5
If memory serves, Jonah also guest appeared in a couple of Bronze Age issues of Justice Society of America in some time travel related story, during which he interacted with Superman. Not the same as Supes having appeared in a Bronze Age Jonah Hex comic, but close. Was it JLA, not JSA Confessor? The only one I can think of you might be referring to is this one... -M Yes, that's it. Sorry, I meant Justice League, not Society. It's that issue and the next one, that I was thinking of. I have a feeling Supes and Hex may have met in Justice League of America #159 too (certainly they're both on the front cover together). Edit: Oops, Prince Hal got there before me with JLA #159.
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Post by MDG on Feb 16, 2016 10:21:55 GMT -5
Kind've getting off-track from "where hasn't Superman appeared" to "has/hasn't Superman met."
I don't think he appeared in the original run of Swamp Thing (or any of the licensed books around that time: Shadow, Weird Worlds, Tarzan, Justice Inc., etc.) nor the fantasy books (Stalker, Tor, etc.) Was he ever in the original run of Phantom Stranger? Or Challs.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 16, 2016 10:23:08 GMT -5
Kind've getting off-track from "where hasn't Superman appeared" to "has/hasn't Superman met." Spoil sport!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 16, 2016 11:26:14 GMT -5
Does Superboy count as Superman? Judges? If not, Superman did make...6?-ish? Appearances in Brave and the Bold (3 in the team-up era) but never made the cover. OK...he was in B & B #s 28-30, the Justice League tryouts; #150, as stated; # 172 (appearing with Flash and Wonder Woman, as they ask Batman to check up on Firestorm, the credited co-star that month); and #192(which, IMO, does count, as Superboy and Superman, in pre-Crisis days, were the same character at different ages). Jim Aparo, following instructions from writer Mike W. Barr, kept 'adult' Clark/Superman totally or partially obscured by shadows in that story(and Superboy was even a bit younger, around 14 or 15, as opposed to the 16 or 17 established in his solo title at that time). Bonus question: How many times does Batman appear in (the original) DC Comics Presents? Those, plus the first Supergirl team-up in # 63. Those were the six I was thinking of. Bats was definitely in "Batman in the Outsiders" in DCCP 83, but that's the only one I remember right off hand.
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Post by dupersuper on Feb 16, 2016 13:17:07 GMT -5
I am by no means a Superman expert, but I don't recall him in any of the big war books (Sgt. Rock, Star Spangled War, GI Combat). That is probably expected since they were not Superhero titles. Also, I don't think he appeared in Freedom Fighters.... Well, maybe not in person...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 14:57:59 GMT -5
Kind've getting off-track from "where hasn't Superman appeared" to "has/hasn't Superman met." I don't think he appeared in the original run of Swamp Thing (or any of the licensed books around that time: Shadow, Weird Worlds, Tarzan, Justice Inc., etc.) nor the fantasy books (Stalker, Tor, etc.) Was he ever in the original run of Phantom Stranger? Or Challs. By original run of Phantom Stranger, do you mean the 6 issue series that came out in the 1950s or the 41 issue series that ran after he was reintroduced in Showcase #80? I think Deadman and the Frankenstein monster are the only 2 guest stars to appear in the 41 issue run (though there was Black Orchid back ups too I believe). Couldn't say about the 6 issue Fifties series as I have only seen 2-3 stories form in in reprints. -M
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 16, 2016 15:32:52 GMT -5
Kind've getting off-track from "where hasn't Superman appeared" to "has/hasn't Superman met." I don't think he appeared in the original run of Swamp Thing (or any of the licensed books around that time: Shadow, Weird Worlds, Tarzan, Justice Inc., etc.) nor the fantasy books (Stalker, Tor, etc.) Was he ever in the original run of Phantom Stranger? Or Challs. I must be gaslighting myself, b/c I thought I'd said this earlier, but hey, if I did already post this somewhere, I'm sorry. My point was that the original post implies that Superman showed up everywhere, but as we see, there were a ton of DC books where he didn't appear. The fun part really is finding the odd ones where he did show up. What you realize is that even within DC's titles there were separate worlds: Earth-Superhero; Earth-Horror; Earth-War, etc. And as we've said before, the idea that heroes met even within the narrow confines of Earth-Superhero was slow in developing; that's why the JLA and the B and B (post #49) were so cool. Certainly one big reason for that was Mort Weisinger's possessive attitude toward Superman. Also, I don't remember DC really using Superman to pump up other titles. Batman, for sure, once the TYV show hit big. But outside of Captain Action #1 and then Shazam #1, which featured Superman "introducing" Captain Marvel to everybody, Superman wasn't used as a "ratings-booster." Eventually, he showed up on other #1's IIRC: Captain Carrot jumps to mind. Plus, World's Finest and then DC Comics Presents were used to team Superman with A-, B-, C- and D-listers.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 16, 2016 15:52:08 GMT -5
Keep in mind when Mort Weisinger ruled the Superman corner of the DC universe for close to 2 decades, he demanded Supes outside appearances be kept to a minimum and only with his permission. That's one of the reasons Supes barely appeared in the early issues of the JLA until Mort was forced to abide
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 16, 2016 16:17:16 GMT -5
Keep in mind when Mort Weisinger ruled the Superman corner of the DC universe for close to 2 decades, he demanded Supes outside appearances be kept to a minimum and only with his permission. That's one of the reasons Supes barely appeared in the early issues of the JLA until Mort was forced to abide Exactly.
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Post by realjla on Feb 16, 2016 16:44:30 GMT -5
Was it JLA, not JSA Confessor? The only one I can think of you might be referring to is this one... -M Yes, that's it. Sorry, I meant Justice League, not Society. It's that issue and the next one, that I was thinking of. I have a feeling Supes and Hex may have met in Justice League of America #159 too (certainly they're both on the front cover together). Edit: Oops, Prince Hal got there before me with JLA #159. Despite the fact that Jonah Hex made more appearances in JLA than the Creeper, the Earth-1 Vigilante, and Batgirl combined, Jonah and Superman never interacted in any way in any of those four issues. In # 159, Jonah takes down Hawkman, while Supeman falls to Enemy Ace. Afterward, Superman is given the expository dialogue recap in # 160, when, after stating that he recognized Enemy Ace and Miss Liberty 'from my own studies of the past', he follows by noting that 'Flash spotted Jonah Hex, a notorious gunslinger from the Old West'. So, somewhat disappointingly, the only time when Superman even uses Jonah's name is to brush him aside as 'some cowboy I never heard of'. What a waste. In # 198-199, Superman never meets any of the Western heroes, remaining in 1981 to fight the threat from the present. I always wanted to see a Siperman-Jonah team-up in DCCP, with Jonah gunning Supes down, while being perplexed about 'whut are them GREEN BULLETS doin' in muh six-gun...'n who's thet caped feller'? But, it was never to be. Even when I thought they might save it for DCCP # 100, they sent 'Hex' to the future, and he met some fake Batman instead...and, as for DDCCP, it never even made it to # 100. So, of COURSE, DC has them meet many years after I quit reading comics! Bastards. Uh, ah mean...Owlhoots!
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Post by Rob Allen on Feb 19, 2016 19:33:42 GMT -5
Here's another little-known crossover. This issue was edited by Jack Schiff and Bernie Breslauer, and the cover is by Howie Post: There's no indication that Supes appeared in any of the stories.
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