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Post by realjla on Feb 16, 2016 1:57:59 GMT -5
The Peter David 'Joe Fixit' and 'Professor' eras of 'The Incredible Hulk' Justice League of America, the Conway Years DC Comics Presents Marvel Team-Up, and Two-in-One. Archie Comics, prior to the development of continuity between titles. Crisis on Infinite Earths Blue Beetle's DC book. Sgt. Rock The Aparo-DeCarlo stint on 'Batman'...yes, even 'Death in the Family' Byrne Superman I love Joe Fixit and the Professor Hulk. I've never really heard anyone say they hated those eras. From what I heard people who love PAD's Hulk often praise those eras. Myself included. If anything the only bad thing I've heard about the Fixit issues was the art by Jeff Purves. I don't think the art is very good but it's servicible. I wasn't a big fan of the art at any point when I was reading the title (starting 'pre-Fixit' '87 to '93), but found the writing captivating. After all of those years of 'Hulk speak in third person, and call everyone nicknames', the Joe Fixit persona kicked ass, took names, and cracked wise. I've read good things about the Len Wein and Bill Mantlo runs, and mixed reviews of the brief John Byrne run, but never followed the book closely, other than sampling # 300 and the next couple, before deciding that 'mindless Hulk' didn't do anything for me. The only thing I didn't like about 'the Professor' was that nickname, which thankfully, must have been a fan thing that never saw print in the books. |
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Post by foxley on Feb 16, 2016 2:02:20 GMT -5
I actually liked Hex (at least till Kieth Giffen took over the art).
I also enjoyed the weird 'fight club' incarnation of Thunderbolts that occurred at the end of the original run.
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Post by coke & comics on Feb 16, 2016 2:09:27 GMT -5
But I don't hear hate for them. O'Neill's Daredevils are certainly overshadowed by being between two Miller eras, but I tended to like those stories, and haven't heard of them being hated. Well, now you have. I hated O'Neil's work on both titles. Cei-U! Doesn't your life feel enriched? :D I stand corrected. Hate away. |
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Post by JKCarrier on Feb 16, 2016 2:20:25 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Steve Englehart's run on Fantastic Four. A lot of people don't like it because it doesn't feature the "classic" line-up, but I thought putting Ben in the leadership role showed off some different sides to his character. Englehart even made me like the Johnny-Alicia pairing, which I never thought I would. I also got a big kick out of the "Beyonder" storyline, in all its convoluted, continuity-heavy glory, very reminiscent of his '70s Avengers run.
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 16, 2016 2:32:31 GMT -5
I really liked both the first and second Secret Wars. Please don't kill me.
I also liked Legends and Millennium.
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Post by realjla on Feb 16, 2016 2:49:16 GMT -5
I really liked both the first and second Secret Wars. Please don't kill me. I also liked Legends and Millennium. |
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Post by realjla on Feb 16, 2016 2:49:42 GMT -5
So, YOU'RE 'that guy'!  |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 16, 2016 2:50:27 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Steve Englehart's run on Fantastic Four. A lot of people don't like it because it doesn't feature the "classic" line-up, but I thought putting Ben in the leadership role showed off some different sides to his character. Englehart even made me like the Johnny-Alicia pairing, which I never thought I would. I also got a big kick out of the "Beyonder" storyline, in all its convoluted, continuity-heavy glory, very reminiscent of his '70s Avengers run. Is that when The Thing mutated into a pineapple looking rock guy? That' s an era I didn't enjoy but I liked the later DeFalco-Ryan run |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 3:58:53 GMT -5
A lot of people hate (or do not appreciate) the "Super Sons" stories that ran through World's Finest Comics in the 1970's. Bob Haney/Dick Dillin, imaginary tales = pure fun!  |
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Post by tolworthy on Feb 16, 2016 4:12:29 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Steve Englehart's run on Fantastic Four. A lot of people don't like it because it doesn't feature the "classic" line-up, but I thought putting Ben in the leadership role showed off some different sides to his character. Englehart even made me like the Johnny-Alicia pairing, which I never thought I would. I also got a big kick out of the "Beyonder" storyline, in all its convoluted, continuity-heavy glory, very reminiscent of his '70s Avengers run. So much this. Englehart is my favorite run behind Lee/Kirby and Perez. But that's largely because I'm a continuity nut. I am currently re-reading his issues and they make me smile so much. An absolute gold mine. They are what prompted this thread: reading his Aron stories took me back to the Ral Dorn story in annual 16 (lots of parallels), and reminded me that I love the stories everyone else hates. Even his "John Harkness" stuff is a delight, once you get your head round what he was trying to do. I love what he did with the Wizard (the whole run can be seen as rehabilitating one of the greatest FF villains). I love how he finally tied up stories that should have been tied up when Kirby left, and then laid the foundation for a whole new seam of stories. I love how he showed Ben Grimm in action without needing super powers... I love it all. I think most of the hate is due to restrictions that were not his fault. E.g. his 1970s Dr Strange, Captain America, etc., relied on real time references, but that was frowned on by the 1980s. Also, he had a lot more freedom in the 1970s. Of his 32 FF stories, only 12 were what he actually wanted to write, with only modest editorial interference. The remainder ranged from forced crossovers at short notice (e.g. with X-Factor) to literally rewriting the story after it as drawn (the second story in annual 21). But as long as Englehart had a strong influence I find those stories get better with re-reading. In contrast, a writer like Byrne creates stories that seem much better on first reading, but (in my opinion) don't have the hidden depths. Englehart's characters grow from their past in a way that Byrne's rebooted versions do not. IMO. |
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Post by realjla on Feb 16, 2016 4:16:03 GMT -5
The Super-Sons: Also known as 'What if Superman and Batman sounded like the Teen Titans?' "So, you're sayin', Bat-Buddy, that, for an old, Establishment-type cat, Bob Haney is actually... with it?" "Right on, Supes! You dig where this bat is at!" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 4:35:54 GMT -5
The Super-Sons: Also known as 'What if Superman and Batman sounded like the Teen Titans?' "So, you're sayin', Bat-Buddy, that, for an old, Establishment-type cat, Bob Haney is actually... with it?" "Right on, Supes! You dig where this bat is at!" Yes, I will be your Bat-Buddy, sounds super-duper 2 me!...and don't be down on Haney/Dillin...be chillin' & a-thrillin'...it was a hip, hip happenin' time back then! |
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Post by Confessor on Feb 16, 2016 5:24:57 GMT -5
The thing that I'm most out of whack with, when it comes to the majority of comic fandom, has only just become a "classic comic" (as we define it here). I really loved the "Sins Past" storyline in Amazing Spider-Man by J. Michael Strazinsky and Mike Deodato. Absolutely loved it! The reasons why I adore it are many, but every which way I look at it, it seems like a truly great comic story -- and I'm a big fan of the Silver Age Gwen Stacy, before anyone asks. I really just don't understand the hate this storyline gets at all.
Other runs or series that I like, that others don't seem to...
Justice (New Universe)
The David Michelinie/Todd McFarlane era of Amazing Spider-Man
John Carter: Warlord of Mars ('70s Marvel series)
The whole, convoluted mess that was the '90s Spider-Man Clone Saga
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Post by foxley on Feb 16, 2016 5:42:52 GMT -5
The whole, convoluted mess that was the '90s Spider-Man Clone Saga Okay. Now I know that your pulling my leg. Right?  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 16, 2016 5:45:01 GMT -5
I really enjoyed Steve Englehart's run on Fantastic Four. A lot of people don't like it because it doesn't feature the "classic" line-up, but I thought putting Ben in the leadership role showed off some different sides to his character. Englehart even made me like the Johnny-Alicia pairing, which I never thought I would. I also got a big kick out of the "Beyonder" storyline, in all its convoluted, continuity-heavy glory, very reminiscent of his '70s Avengers run. So much this. Englehart is my favorite run behind Lee/Kirby and Perez. But that's largely because I'm a continuity nut. I rate my FF runs as follows: 1. Lee/Kirby 2.Lee/ Buscema et al from 102-150 3. Defalco/Ryan 4. Wolfman/Byrne et al from 190-220 5. Byrne |
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