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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 17, 2014 13:57:39 GMT -5
Hate Quesada all you want, but he brought Marvel back from bankruptcy, made their publishing division the top in the industry again, kept the characters viable enough to be licensed, and is an important part of Marvel Studios, which is in the process of world domination. I want to end the back and forth but this is just not right.Quesada had NOTHING to do with bringing marvel out of bancruptcy.The film deals they made with Sony and Fox helped pay down the debt.Which also shows that their characters were always viable for licensing-they were before Quesada was born. Name one character created under Quesada thats been successfully licensed And I might be wrong but even when Marvel was under bankruptcy they were still #1. OK I'm done.Maybe Jeter can be the new Iron Man |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 13:58:49 GMT -5
Jessica Jones, do I win?
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Post by Pharozonk on Jul 17, 2014 14:00:18 GMT -5
Wasn't it Avi Arad who got Marvel out of bankruptcy by selling their properties to various movie studios?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 17, 2014 14:02:20 GMT -5
Wasn't it Avi Arad who got Marvel out of bankruptcy by selling their properties to various movie studios? Yeah,thats who I would give the credit to |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 14:03:12 GMT -5
Hard to sell licenses for a company that doesn't exist, Quesada was a big part of keeping Marvel publishing alive and relevant enough to sell as movie properties
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 14:07:56 GMT -5
Maybe Jeter can be the new Iron Man Pshaw. That's Cal Ripken Jr. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 17, 2014 14:12:00 GMT -5
Hard to sell licenses for a company that doesn't exist, Quesada was a big part of keeping Marvel publishing alive and relevant enough to sell as movie properties You got it backwards.Marvels properties were too valuable for the company not to exist in some way,shape or form.If Marvel solely depended on the sales of their comic book division for its survival,it would have folded long ago.Same for DC. Marvel could have just gone all reprint and those movie deals still would have happened |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 14:15:50 GMT -5
Hard to sell licenses for a company that doesn't exist, Quesada was a big part of keeping Marvel publishing alive and relevant enough to sell as movie properties You got it backwards.Marvels properties were too valuable for the company not to exist in some way,shape or form.If Marvel solely depended on the sales of their comic book division for its survival,it would have folded long ago.Same for DC. Marvel could have just gone all reprint and those movie deals still would have happened Look, do I win for Jessica Jones or not? |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 17, 2014 14:18:06 GMT -5
You got it backwards.Marvels properties were too valuable for the company not to exist in some way,shape or form.If Marvel solely depended on the sales of their comic book division for its survival,it would have folded long ago.Same for DC. Marvel could have just gone all reprint and those movie deals still would have happened Look, do I win for Jessica Jones or not? Ding-Ding-Ding. Jessica Jones wins Next question:Did Paste Pot Pete ever use Baron Zemo's Adhesive X? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 14:21:17 GMT -5
If he did, it was probably in a Roy Thomas comic
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 17, 2014 14:34:41 GMT -5
I hate to say it, because he seems like a total wanker, but Ike Perlmutter has to get most of the credit for getting Marvel out of bankruptcy, along with his partner Avi Arad. Not taking credit away from Quesada for what he has done with the company, but there's a fascinating book called Comic Wars that goes into great detail on the Marvel bankruptcy fight. Marvel going into bankruptcy had surprisingly little to do with the actual comics, and it's recovery had surprisingly little to do with the comics either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 14:38:44 GMT -5
I hate to say it, because he seems like a total wanker, but Ike Perlmutter has to get most of the credit for getting Marvel out of bankruptcy, along with his partner Avi Arad. Not taking credit away from Quesada for what he has done with the company, but there's a fascinating book called Comic Wars that goes into great detail on the Marvel bankruptcy fight. Marvel going into bankruptcy had surprisingly little to do with the actual comics, and it's recovery had surprisingly little to do with the comics either. Perlmutter does sound like he is a total wanker |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 17, 2014 14:56:03 GMT -5
I hate to say it, because he seems like a total wanker, but Ike Perlmutter has to get most of the credit for getting Marvel out of bankruptcy, along with his partner Avi Arad. Not taking credit away from Quesada for what he has done with the company, but there's a fascinating book called Comic Wars that goes into great detail on the Marvel bankruptcy fight. Marvel going into bankruptcy had surprisingly little to do with the actual comics, and it's recovery had surprisingly little to do with the comics either. Agreed.I read The Untold Story of Marvel and of course I remember the events as they were happening.Marvel's financial downfall came from the Hero's World distribution fiasco as well as the Panini and Toy Biz acquisitions.Quesada became EIC in 2000,the same year the first Xmen movie broke.The deal for a Spider-Man movie was already in place |
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Post by paulie on Jul 17, 2014 15:03:59 GMT -5
Stan Lee and Jim Shooter were visionaries when it came to selling comics. I've seen no proof that Quesada is.
I've never heard of Jessica Jones until this thread. Who is she?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 17, 2014 15:06:05 GMT -5
Not everyone can be as boring as Roy Thomas Wow, I didn't expect this to be a long thread! Couple things: Roy Thomas is a national treasure. You don't have to like his writing, but to not appreciate what he's done for the comic industry is crazy... hopefully you're just going for shock value. Quesada is definitely the anti-Roy Thomas, and IMO, Marvel has suffered greatly for it. As to the appearance, I was pretty disappointed overall.. Quesada LOOKED and acted like a stereotypical comic book nerd... not good marketing at all. I know not everyone reads the comic book dirt sheets, but to use that forum to 'announce' news that was over a month old was really lame. |
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