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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 16, 2014 11:18:39 GMT -5
So, they announced She-Thor on the View... they're saying Quesada will announce an 'All-New' version of a classic character as well. What do you guys think?
The easy answer is Captain America, since we all know there's a new one coming, and Colbert likes him (he's had a Cap Shield on his set since the beginning)... I'm not thinking that's news, though.
I'm thinking it's Iron Man... perhaps even Pepper Potts as the All-New Iron Man. There's been NOTHING about an Iron Man book since it was stealth cancelled (along with Hulk) for Original Sin.
Could be Hulk, too, I suppose....
Thoughts?
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 16, 2014 11:23:17 GMT -5
I bet it is going to be Captain America. Seems pretty clear from the material I've seen that the new Cap is going to be The Falcon. I guess it's news because he's African-American, and also because it could eventually affect the movies (though it's probably the other way around).
Of course, for any comic reader, someone else taking over as Cap is hardly news. It seems to happen just about every other week.
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Post by Pharozonk on Jul 16, 2014 13:08:30 GMT -5
What's with Marvel replacing so many characters lately? First Superior Spider-man. Then She-Thor. Now Cap?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 13:15:20 GMT -5
What's with Marvel replacing so many characters lately? First Superior Spider-man. Then She-Thor. Now Cap? It's a Marvel tradition-Ben Reilly, Eric Masterson, Jack Walker, Bucky, Rhodey, etc. etc. etc. happens every so many years to shake things up. -M |
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Post by Confessor on Jul 16, 2014 13:29:56 GMT -5
What's with Marvel replacing so many characters lately? First Superior Spider-man. Then She-Thor. Now Cap? Rapidly dwindling comics book sales, resulting in knee-jerk publicity stunts I would've said. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 14:05:33 GMT -5
What's with Marvel replacing so many characters lately? First Superior Spider-man. Then She-Thor. Now Cap? Rapidly dwindling comics book sales, resulting in knee-jerk publicity stunts I would've said. What's wrong with trying to get publicity and/or sales? |
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Post by Jesse on Jul 16, 2014 14:50:59 GMT -5
Reminder timer set.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 16, 2014 16:12:43 GMT -5
What's wrong with trying to get publicity and/or sales? Nothing, as long as you're doing it with great stories, characters and artwork. Cheap publicity stunts are, well...cheap. EDIT: Just been thinking some more about this, since posting my above reply, and I feel that I should just clarify that I have no problem with shaking up the status quo on a title as long as it doesn't feel too "stunty". For example, I thought the recent replacing of Peter Parker with Otto Octavious in the Superior Spider-Man comic was a really interesting twist that resulted in a years worth of really fun comics. The way it was written and executed by Dan Slott made it all feel very plausible (within the context of superhero comics, of course!). But so many semi-recent shake ups at Marvel, like the deaths of Captain America, Wasp or the Human Torch, just reek of desperation on the part of the company. It's hard to explain, but I think that one instinctively knows when a plot shake up or the replacing of a character is just a cheap stunt or a legitimately beneficial story twist. It's a similar thing to the relentless summer event thing, I guess -- one or two of them were genuinely interesting and enjoyable ( House of M and Civil War especially), but then we had Secret Invasion, World War Hulk, Siege and the real turkey of Fear Itself. I've no idea what the current Original Sin is like, but as time goes on with these big events, you can almost smell the desperation. Now, I have no idea whether this female Thor thing is going to be a good shake up or just another cheap publicity stunt, since the number of Marvel titles I buy these days has dwindled to almost nothing and so I'm a bit out of the loop. I was just responding to Pharozonk's question about why Marvel's been replacing so many characters lately. |
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Post by paulie on Jul 16, 2014 16:18:39 GMT -5
Boo to Joe Quesada.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 16, 2014 16:37:37 GMT -5
I've never really forgiven him for destroying the Spider-marriage with the whole Mephisto/One More Day debacle. God, I sound like such a whiney fanboy saying that, but it is kinda true.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 18:06:41 GMT -5
Shaking up the status quo would be much more interesting if there was even a possibility of it actually being long term or permanent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 19:12:51 GMT -5
Every superhero comic book story could be called a stunt. The only difference being the level of marketing if gets, and the level of cynicism the reader brings to it.
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Post by comicscube on Jul 16, 2014 21:06:50 GMT -5
What's wrong with trying to get publicity and/or sales? Nothing, as long as you're doing it with great stories, characters and artwork. Cheap publicity stunts are, well...cheap. EDIT: Just been thinking some more about this, since posting my above reply, and I feel that I should just clarify that I have no problem with shaking up the status quo on a title as long as it doesn't feel too "stunty". For example, I thought the recent replacing of Peter Parker with Otto Octavious in the Superior Spider-Man comic was a really interesting twist that resulted in a years worth of really fun comics. The way it was written and executed by Dan Slott made it all feel very plausible (within the context of superhero comics, of course!). But so many semi-recent shake ups at Marvel, like the deaths of Captain America, Wasp or the Human Torch, just reek of desperation on the part of the company. It's hard to explain, but I think that one instinctively knows when a plot shake up or the replacing of a character is just a cheap stunt or a legitimately beneficial story twist. It's a similar thing to the relentless summer event thing, I guess -- one or two of them were genuinely interesting and enjoyable ( House of M and Civil War especially), but then we had Secret Invasion, World War Hulk, Siege and the real turkey of Fear Itself. I've no idea what the current Original Sin is like, but as time goes on with these big events, you can almost smell the desperation. Now, I have no idea whether this female Thor thing is going to be a good shake up or just another cheap publicity stunt, since the number of Marvel titles I buy these days has dwindled to almost nothing and so I'm a bit out of the loop. I was just responding to Pharozonk's question about why Marvel's been replacing so many characters lately. You can never fault a company for doing what makes money. That's going to happen. I got particularly tired of events myself, a while back, but what's the company gonna do? Leave money on the table? That's where the casual fan is going. And, let's be honest, that's where the hardcore fan is staying. Think of fandom as occupying four levels: Level 1: The hardcore fan, the type who'll be interested in just about anything, probably buy things even if they don't want the story to happen, and can be counted on to at least be talking about the comics. Level 2: The casual fan, who may wander into the comic shop or a GN section of a bookstore and buy something that interests them. Level 3: The really really casual fan, who will buy something if it transcends the industry and makes its way onto TV or book lists or whatever. Think of all the people who don't read comics but have copies of Watchmen. Level 4: The non-fan who won't read comics. Now if you're a publisher, you don't care about level 4, you can't do anything about level 3 (the news will pick up what the news picks up. You could come up with the stuntiest thing ever and if the news doesn't pick it up, you're still not maximizing your sales. And you can't ever, ever be guaranteed something will be of transcendent quality), and while you're happy for level 1, you can be assured they'll always be there. Level 2 is your target. On a personal note, it's not like this is the first or even sixth time someone else has held Mjolnir, nor is it the first or even third time a woman has worn the mantle of Thor. Casual fans who have just discovered Thor in the past few years freaking out about this, sure, I can get. But you'd think we old fogies would be used to this by now. If it's gonna be good, it's gonna be good. If it's gonna be bad, it's gonna be bad. There's no way to tell until it happens. I've loved Jason Aaron's run. If this has female Thor with Mjolnir and male Thor with the axe, I'm all in. And if it starts sucking, well, you know, it's serialized comics. Sometimes you gotta know when to jump off. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 16, 2014 21:39:52 GMT -5
I don't think there's ever been a female Thor staring in the comic, unless you're counting Sif. Thor Girl was a supporting character at best.
I agree Aaron has been great, I'm sad only in that I've been enjoying the current run so much, I'd rather not see it end. Hopefully it'll all tie together nicely.
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Post by dupersuper on Jul 16, 2014 21:59:11 GMT -5
I shall watch it. Then again, I watch every Colbert Report...
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