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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 20, 2016 22:34:55 GMT -5
To be honest, the only one of those three that I remember was Chronos, which struck me as basically just another generic superhero book. I think I read about three issues... Chase is one of the Top 5 books DC has published in the past 20 years or so. I tacked down every single short story in the DC specials of the time, Dan Curtis Johnson was an amazing superhero writer. It's a shame he didn't do more... I still fondly remember his JLA issue at the tail end of Morrison's run, the one that reflects on Supes origin with the JLA trying to save a miniature civilisation. Chase was a fabulous fun book. Both it and Chronos actually used the concept of a shared universe in a fun way to tell actual stories that weren't just continuity porn. DC put out some fun books in the late 90s that just didn't find an audience.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 21, 2016 17:01:00 GMT -5
Well, there was an awful lot of it. And I don't think much good stuff made it past the mid point of the decade. There's an awful lot of crap in every decade. And there was plenty of good stuff past the mid-point of the decade. Moore himself started LoEG and the ABC line in 99. DC experimented with a number of fun quality books in the late 90s. Chase, Chronos, Vext. They just didn't sell. I'd go so far as to say that DC peaked in the '90s. It was the only time in corporate comics ever that stuff like Seven Miles a Second could get published - people at DC actually cared about comics as an art form and publishing quality work. Which has never been the case before or since. And even the superhero stuff was quite solid - The All Ages line wasn't as diverse as it was in past decades- there was no Warlord, Amethyst, or Sugar and Spike - but the cape books were as good as they had ever been, overall. And not to be all whiny nostalgic for the recent past, but *man* what happened?
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Post by dupersuper on Mar 22, 2016 9:55:16 GMT -5
Off the top of my head, I'd add triangle era Superman (including specials, PAD Supergirl, Simonson then Priest Steel, Kessel Superboy...), Busiek/Perez Avengers, Morrison Animal Man, Gerard Jones GL books/El Diablo, Superman Adventures/Batman Adventures, PAD Aquaman and Young Justice, Waid Flash, LEGION, Legends of the Dark Knight, the tail end of Ostranders Suicide Squad and Firestorm, Hitman...
Did Zot go into the 90s?…
Both Morrison's Animal Man and Zot, barely made into the 90's. The bulk of those series, pertains to the 80's. Kurt Busiek's Avengers, Bryan Talbot's Legends Of The Dark Knight and Keith Giffen's Legion Of Superheroes, are on my list. Talbot? I meant the LotDK with rotating crative teams.
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Post by Ozymandias on Mar 22, 2016 11:24:20 GMT -5
I know what you mean, just pointing out that one of those rotating creative teams, was already on the list. The one composed of Morrison and Janson, or the one with Ellis and McCrea, also came close.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 23, 2016 19:15:13 GMT -5
Rereading Tom Strong now. I don't think I ever finished Terrific Tales, so that will be new to me. Sadly, the library doesn't have Tomorrow Stories - which was what I really wanted to read. OR the Greyshirt spin-off series, which I remember being just *jawdrop* great.
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Post by Trevor on Mar 23, 2016 20:52:42 GMT -5
Rereading Tom Strong now. I don't think I ever finished Terrific Tales, so that will be new to me. Sadly, the library doesn't have Tomorrow Stories - which was what I really wanted to read. OR the Greyshirt spin-off series, which I remember being just *jawdrop* great. Sad confession time: I was ecstatic when America's Best Comics came out. An entire super-hero line spearhead by Alan Moore? Almost too good to be true. I bought every issue, read a couple to confirm that yes this could be the bee's knees, then promptly let the issues stockpile. Except for the first LoEG trade and a couple first issues, I've yet to read any more.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 24, 2016 17:04:33 GMT -5
Huh. I can't do that. I pretty much compulsively need to read my new comics.
And I *loved* ABC. It's a lot more the kind of thing I like - bright, self-aware, humorous - than Moore's '80s work, which was (at least between the beginning of Swamp Thing and the beginning of From Hell) heavy on distopian science fiction and horror.
I'm not saying they're the *best*, but my favorite Alan Moore comics to re-read are Tomorrow Stories and the first ten issues of Promethea. (Although I did forget how much I enjoyed the (relatively) traditional superheroics in Captain Britain.
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Post by Trevor on Mar 24, 2016 17:25:26 GMT -5
I just buy too many to keep up; my unread/played/watched comics games and movies could satisfy me for 50 more years at least.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 24, 2016 17:30:55 GMT -5
Rereading Tom Strong now. I don't think I ever finished Terrific Tales, so that will be new to me. Sadly, the library doesn't have Tomorrow Stories - which was what I really wanted to read. OR the Greyshirt spin-off series, which I remember being just *jawdrop* great. Sad confession time: I was ecstatic when America's Best Comics came out. An entire super-hero line spearhead by Alan Moore? Almost too good to be true. I bought every issue, read a couple to confirm that yes this could be the bee's knees, then promptly let the issues stockpile. Except for the first LoEG trade and a couple first issues, I've yet to read any more. You have a sickness that could only be cured by sending me all your comics.
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Post by sabongero on Mar 28, 2016 12:23:58 GMT -5
I voted his Saga of the Swamp Thing just because I think that Swamp Thing Annual #2 may well have been the very best written single issue comic book ever, (or perhaps one of the best three) in the comic code authority era.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 28, 2016 19:36:45 GMT -5
Finished Tom Strong 1-14. Issues one-three are amazing - Some of the best Doc Savage stories ever, some of the best Alan Moore stories ever, up there with the best superhero stories ever. After that.... I had forgotten the meta-comics aspect of Tom Strong. It's supposed to be a pulp series that continued for years as if superheroes never took over American comics, so individual issues are homaging DC JSA team-ups of the '60s, EC Comics, pulp novels, and the Marvel Family. (Complete with a Hoppy The Marvel bunny analog. Who was drawn by Kyle Baker. That is genius.) And even when it's not comic nerding it's back in forth in time, with many of the early issues a "modern" framing sequence around a "historical" 20th century adventure, always drawn by a different artist. It's both solid adventure story and a comics history of the 20th century, so it should be of great interest to classics comic folks. But. But. But honestly, all the high concept history building gets in the way of Alan Moore writing really, really good pulp adventures. The stories get shorter and less complex as the series goes, and it never really hits the heights of the first three issues. And I guess Alan Moore stops writing after a while, and Geoff Johns (among others) takes over. So I guess I have that to "look forward" to.
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Post by String on Mar 29, 2016 10:47:23 GMT -5
In regards to quality 90s runs, would Hourman make the list?
Always heard good things about it.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 29, 2016 11:09:38 GMT -5
In regards to quality 90s runs, would Hourman make the list? Always heard good things about it. It was OK. It was a fairly solid superhero comic and it was fun. I wouldn't have said it was outstanding.
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Post by berkley on Mar 29, 2016 17:06:04 GMT -5
I liked the idea of Tom Strong but the effect was ruined for me by the visual design of the title character - the top-heavy look with that over-developed upper body always looks ridiculous to me - so I've read only a few issues here and there.
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Post by Rob Allen on Mar 29, 2016 17:23:45 GMT -5
My only encounter with Tom Strong was in the pages of Promethea. Where did that episode fall in the character's history - early, middle, late?
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