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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:53:01 GMT -5
If it is a property I enjoy, I may take a look, but it has to be a well-done comic to hold my interest. I have a bunch of licensed comics and adaptations, so I do find many to be worth my time and/or money. Not all by any means, but some.
-M
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Post by dupersuper on Jul 17, 2014 22:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by Jasoomian on Jul 17, 2014 22:11:01 GMT -5
I liked ALF from Marvel/STAR when I was a kid. The animated series was the best ALF, though.
These days I usually look to see if any of the creator/producer/writers involved with the original material is involved with the comics. Firefly, Jericho, others have been decent.
Has anyone read John Byrne's new photo-comics of Star Trek? I think they're releasing them quarterly.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 17, 2014 22:18:16 GMT -5
I usually avoid them these days. When I was a kid, though, I liked them - particularly the ones based on toys, like ROM, G.I. Joe and Transformers. I also was into Star Wars for awhile. But for the most part, I find these usually either don't live up to the original, or they end up getting contradicted or ignored by the source (like the Star Wars or Star Trek comics from Marvel and DC). Which makes it hard for me to get real invested in them.
I like the idea of stuff such as the Buffy comic, that continues the "official" story. They just haven't done that yet with a property I am passionate about.
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Post by dupersuper on Jul 17, 2014 22:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by coveredinbees on Jul 17, 2014 22:43:17 GMT -5
I'll try it if I like the show enough. The only comic book tv shows I've really liked were the Warehouse 13 comic and the Firefly comics. I didn't enjoy the Babylon 5 series, but I didn't give it much effort. After that, and True Blood, I've tried to be more discerning in my adaptation purchases. I don't get video games based form movies, either. I'm totally getting Farscape, though! I had no idea there was a comic, or even how great the show was until a month ago. It's bizarre.
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Post by Jesse on Jul 17, 2014 22:48:51 GMT -5
I enjoyed the Grimm series from Dynamite I'm totally getting Farscape, though! I had no idea there was a comic, or even how great the show was until a month ago. It's bizarre. I just started watching it within the last year and it quickly became one of my favorite TV series.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 22:48:54 GMT -5
The 2001: A Space Odyssey Treasury is probably the best adaptation I've ever encountered. That breathtaking artwork just made it a different experience than the movie. Kirby truly is the King. As a kid I loved comic adaptations because they were a way to revisit movies I only got to see once in the theaters. Nowadays I usually avoid them. What I enjoy most is when a comic branches away from adaptation form and into new territory, such as expanded universes, etc. The subsequent 2001: A Space Odyssey ten-issue series is a favorite of mine. The way the monoliths weaved their webs around humanity and the resulting outcomes were fun to read, and the issues where Mister Machine came to form were just awesome. The Star Wars expanded universe issues are a lot of fun too. The last few Logan's Run issues were great. I've always wished for more of them.
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Post by dupersuper on Jul 17, 2014 22:50:33 GMT -5
I'll try it if I like the show enough. The only comic book tv shows I've really liked were the Warehouse 13 comic and the Firefly comics. I'm totally getting Farscape, though! I had no idea there was a comic, or even how great the show was until a month ago. It's bizarre. We're even: I had no idea there was a Warehouse 13 comic.
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Post by dupersuper on Jul 17, 2014 23:03:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 23:08:33 GMT -5
As I said earlier, it depends on the books and the properties it is based off of.
One I do check out is The Dresden Files Comics from Dynamite. Jim Butcher has penned a number of original stories for minis that take place between some of the novels and fill in some of the gaps. I generally pick these up. But they have also done adaptations of some of the novels, and those I generally skip unless I find them in bargain bins.
I have also picked up a bunch of Star Wars comics from Dark Horse over the years, particularly those John Ostrander has been involved with, because I generally like his stuff overall, and he has a good handle on the Star Wars milieu. But there is a lot of drek out there with Star Wars on it too, so I skip that.
Adaptations of books like the Marvel Classics or Classics Illustrated can be iffy. Some are great-the Thomas/Giordano adaptation of Stoker's Dracula is a marvelous read with gorgeous art. Gareth Hinds Beowulf adaptation is sheer genius work on all levels. Chaykin and Mignola's Fafhrd and Grey Mouser adaptations are just plain wonderful. And then some is just drek on a page cashing in on the brand recognition.
I tend to evaluate licensed comics and adaptations the same way I do other comics, are they good comics? If so, I'm interested. If not, nope, sorry see you later. I wouldn't want to miss Shanower's Oz work or Shanower/Skottie Young Oz work just because it's based on Oz, but I don't want to waste my time & money on a bad comic just because it's based on a property I like. Just like I don't want to waste time and money on a bad Batman comic just because it's Batman.
-M
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Post by Randle-El on Jul 17, 2014 23:39:00 GMT -5
As a kid, I loved comic adaptations. If it was a story I enjoyed, I loved re-experiencing it again, whether it was on screen, in book form, or in comics. Movie and TV adaptations were my gateway into the rest of comics in fact. Some of my earliest comics were adaptations of Star Wars movies. I also had the Marvel adaptation of The Last Starfighter (remember that movie?) which I must have read several dozen times. I also read Transformers, GI Joe, Robotech, and the Archie comics version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Nowadays though, not so much. I think a lot of it had to do with not having easy access to movies back then, except in the theaters. I remember movies released on video cassettes being rather expensive in the mid 80s.
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Post by Jasoomian on Jul 18, 2014 3:27:39 GMT -5
Yeah, VHS casettes of films were priced for the rental market through almost all of 1980s. In fact I rememeber (misremember?) Burton's Batman being one of the first major VHS releases to street at closer to $20 than $100.
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Post by travishedgecoke on Jul 18, 2014 4:43:38 GMT -5
Hitoshi Okuda's Tenchi Muyo! comics are probably actually my favorite version of Tenchi stuff. He's just incredibly solid, as a writer and artist, and there isn't a Tenchi collection from him that doesn't pull me in, thrill me, make me laugh, and probably make me want to tear up at least once.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 18, 2014 7:27:30 GMT -5
Sparked by a conversation I was having with icctrombone, what's your stance on comic book adaptations of TV show, movie, and book properties? Will you automatically buy a comic featuring a property you enjoy in other media, do you avoid these adaptations like the plague, or do you have your own middle ground? As a kid, I loved Marvel's licensed properties -- their Star Wars comic is still one of my all-time favourite comic runs, right up there with Silver Age ASM, in terms of my enjoyment of it. I also bought random issues of the likes of the Further Adventures of Indiana Jones or Battlestar Galactica as a kid and I loved the movie adaptations that Marvel and DC would put out, whether it was Blade Runner, Superman III, Labyrinth, For Your Eyes Only or the latest Star Trek film. Since the '90s, Dark Horse's SW output has been pretty high quality, with a few exceptions, and IDW did a nice adaptation of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn a few years back. When I look at my collection, there are actually quite a few comics that are from licensed properties...and don't forget the amazingly good Atari Force. So, obviously I have no problem with the concept at all. However, not everything was great: for every Al Williamson/Archie Goodwin adaptation of The Empire Strikes Back (widely regarded as the finest comic adaptation ever, surely) there was stuff like the Battlestar Galactica comic, which was pretty crappy TBH, or Superman IV: The Quest For Peace, which turned an already bad film into a worse comic. I also remember Topps' X-Files comic sucking balls back in the '90s. The other thing worth mentioning is that, actually, licensed properties are a fantastic gateway drug for getting kids to read more comics. As a child, I loved superheroes like Spidey, Supes or Batman anyway, but house ads for non-licensed comic book series that I saw in Marvel's Star Wars, or DC's Atari Force for instance, led me to buy those comics too. I think that the comics industry should look to do more licensed property comics these days. I think it brings a different kind of reader into comic shops and once they're reading about their favourite movie heroes or TV characters, you hook them into buying more of your company's own properties. Yeah, VHS casettes of films were priced for the rental market through almost all of 1980s. In fact I rememeber (misremember?) Burton's Batman being one of the first major VHS releases to street at closer to $20 than $100. This is absolutely right, although I think that the first video cassette marketed directly at the consumer market, rather than the rental rental one, was The Making of Michael Jackson's Thriller from 1984 or thereabouts. Before that, buying rental vids from a store was prohibitively expensive. In the early '80s, my Dad used to rent the first Star Wars movie for me from the local video shop a lot -- almost every week for months and months on end, if not years. I used to get it out so often that he once enquired whether or not he could buy it from the store and we were horrified to find that the cost was something like £100 (a hell of a lot of money back then).
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