When I work-lived in New York, that neighborhood, way-down-south, dead-after-six lower-ass-Manhattan, was where I lived. I spent months of my life there and had no idea what it had been once upon a time.

Here’s how weird things are sometimes: when I work-worked in New York, the view from my office always reminded me of how Frank Miller drew Hell’s Kitchen in DAREDEVIL. They call it CLINTON now, Hell’s Kitchen. And it doesn’t look anything like what Miller drew, not really. (Kingpin should've constantly corrected people calling it "Hell's Kitchen" to 'Clinton' in the Netflix DAREDEVIL show.)

When Chaykin told me about UPSTART STUDIOS — the shop he, Miller, Simonson, Starlin, Weiss, and others worked out of in the eighties (DAREDEVIL, RONIN, THOR, AMERICAN FLAGG! — all done in the same fucking SPACE) — I mentioned how where I worked (227 W. 29th) always reminded me of Marvel’s “Hell’s Kitchen.”

Chaykin looked at me like I’d just spat up a live goldfish. He pulled out his phone and called Simonson (this was just some random Sunday, mind, and just, like, as a fan of both these guys I was DYING). He badgered Walter about remembering the Upstart address.

231 W. 29th.

Literally right next door.

It looked like Miller's Hell's Kitchen because it WAS Miller’s Hell’s Kitchen.

Echoes.