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Post by The Captain on Oct 10, 2014 7:19:19 GMT -5
IDW bringing comics to mass market retailers.... storyNot sure it will succeed, but I sure like this move for a lot of reasons. -M And yet more things I can buy for my daughters to get them further hooked on comics...
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Post by Jasoomian on Oct 10, 2014 16:35:28 GMT -5
Sounds like a crisis-type event to me. I wonder how hard Hickman will reboot things. The more movie-friendly the better, I'm sure...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 22:51:08 GMT -5
Scott Snyder & Jock's Wytches has already been optioned for a film. storyThe same production company has already optioned Black Hole by Charles Burns (which got some play in the Long Halloween thread recently). -M
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 23:43:28 GMT -5
That was quick. The comic was a sellout, I think going to second print. I heard that the print run could have been as high as 90,000 copies, which to me seems like there will be a few unsold out there. I was unable to get a copy though. A local speculator bought the LCS out first thing in the morning. I do like what I've read of Snyder's work. I think it's you who said you do not like his endings. I definitely did not like the second half of The Wake, and honestly can't remember how American Vampire ended (if it did "end"), so I can agree to that. But the mythos he created around the vampires in American Vampire as well as the mermaids in Wake was pretty unique for genres that have been explored pretty thoroughly by the time he came along.
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Post by Randle-El on Oct 11, 2014 0:03:41 GMT -5
Yes, that was quick, but I think Robert Kirkman has Snyder beat, seeing as how he sold the rights for Outcast even before issue #1 came out. Honestly, I'm not that surprised. Snyder's name always creates a lot of buzz when attached to a project.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 0:53:46 GMT -5
Lots of books are getting optioned after only 1 issue, even Day Men from BOOM! did it, a few other Image books, etc. etc. BOOM! is actively seeking to market their properties with production companies, so I am sure that those production companies are seeing proofs of issues and/or scripts, series bibles, and concept art long before the issue hits the shelves. Image books have the power of the success of Walking Dead behind them, and the fact so many properties form Marvel, DC and others are hitting the big and small screens is having a domino effect as production companies are spec mining for the next big thing to come from comics.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 1:16:24 GMT -5
To me it seems like a fad at the moment. It likely won't be too short lived, and of course comics were being optioned and developed for a long time. But there seems to be fewer comics out there that have yet to be optioned than those that have. Hollywood is known for buying scripts and rights and never using them, but sooner or later they'll likely collectively look at the next big thing. And after the past several years of hit comic movies, I think comics are the current next-big-thing. I don't think ten years from now creator owned comics rights will be getting purchased before the first review is in though.
EDIT: Or maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe Hollywood will think it's worth the risk to buy a property early and eventually never use it just for that off chance the thing they bought was the next Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and they've locked themselves in for the movie (and possibly merchandising) rights for like $20k.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 1:24:13 GMT -5
To me it seems like a fad at the moment. It likely won't be too short lived, and of course comics were being optioned and developed for a long time. But there seems to be fewer comics out there that have yet to be optioned than those that have. Hollywood is known for buying scripts and rights and never using them, but sooner or later they'll likely collectively look at the next big thing. And after the past several years of hit comic movies, I think comics are the current next-big-thing. I don't think ten years from now creator owned comics rights will be getting purchased before the first review is in though. Nah, Hollywood will just be doing remakes and sequels of existing comic content then Hollywood has been notoriously bankrupt for ideas for a while now. It is easier for studios to find and pay for story ideas then to develop it themselves or to develop new talent in-house. It's not just comics-it's old cartoons, tv shows, novels, old movies, video games, board games, etc. etc. etc. How many big budget projects are all new material? In movies or on TV? And of those that aren't based on existing properties, how many are riffs of already successful shows-oooh another crime procedural on TV-it may not be CSI or NCIS but it's not really mining new grounds...where are the movie and tv smash hits that are original? It's not what's selling, so they will continue to mine fields that are generating new story content to fill out their movie and tv production schedules, whether creator owned comics or somewhere else. But where else are hundreds of story ideas being produced each month than comics right now? -M
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 1:47:28 GMT -5
Oh yeah, they've always purchased rights from things like books, biographies, even board games and toys. And I don't think there will ever be a time when Hollywood doesn't want to work with comic book properties again. But at the moment getting a greenlight from Image is the same as getting a greenlight from Paramount and MGM as well. Which isn't a bad thing, an extra stream of revenue for comic creators. I just don't see Hollywood's enthusiasm keeping pace long term.
And it will be cool to see some of these movies if/when they happen.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Oct 11, 2014 1:51:43 GMT -5
I'm of the mind that comics, and particularly superhero comics, would have exploded in popularity in Hollywood long ago if the technology was there. Movie fans have always preferred pomp and spectacle to any other kind of subject matter. This is the real reason these superhero movies are getting made on a technical level; they finally have the technical ability to do exactly what's on the comic pages. Sure, we had Star Wars and Superman in the late 70's and early 80's, but those were special "pioneering" cases and were extremely difficult to pull off. As soon as "CGI spectacle" had a solid template in place, and was relatively cheap to produce in relation to the projected profits, the green light fired up.
Of course, it's also a generational thing. The 30 and 40 year old's that make the most money today, and fuel the economy, were the hardcore comic fans (or at the least cartoon and toy fans) of the 70's and 80's. This generation has been effectively raised by comic books and superhero products, so the time was right to strike directly at the nostalgia centers. You basically have a one-two-punch, for the first time in our culture, of parents and kids who love all things superheroes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 2:21:57 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of CGI Spectacle movies. I know they're successful, but I think super hero movies would be better served if they required a little more work to make happen. But I do think as action movies evolved they made super hero stories more accommodating. Looking at a fight scene in any 70's action movie (excluding the foreign Kung Fu ones)and then comparing them to action scenes in any Jason Statham movie (even the low budget straight-to-dvd ones) and you see a world of difference. In the past Eastern movies would have experts whose entire profession was making fight scenes look super cool on film. Today we have that in America as well. Also the costumes have improved. Spandex doesn't cut it on film. Give the first Superman movie costumes from the new Avengers movie and fight choreography from The Bourne Identity and you'd have a super hero boom happening several decades earlier. Of course CGI special effects for Superman would be a huge improvement too. I just think scouting for the right location, building the locations that can't be found, and working with makeup and prosthetics are better than CGI Hulk and CGI Danger Room. To me it's gotten too easy, and they never have to attempt to be innovative when a script calls for something extraordinary. Just greenscreen it.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Oct 11, 2014 4:40:27 GMT -5
The problem is that many characters, and virtually all powers, demands CGI. You can't represent the Kirby or Sal Buscema Hulk without CGI, much less the monstrous modern version. I do agree that there was more "art" and creativity in a few minutes of The Dark Crystal or The Empire Strikes Back than any six modern CGI movies, but that's the trade off for ease.
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Post by Randle-El on Oct 11, 2014 13:23:07 GMT -5
I suspect that most movie studios option movie and TV rights under the same model that venture capitalists do when backing startups. They realize that not every movie is going to be a huge money maker, and some may not even be feasible to make, but so long as they have a few that do really well, it more than covers the money spent in buying the rights for the duds. So they cast their nets wide and buy rights on the cheap when they are relatively unknown, before certain properties end up being proven sellers and thus more expensive for them to buy the rights for later on. And even before comic adaptations were hot, Hollywood studios were constantly on the prowl, buying the rights to screenplays that look promising for relatively cheap from hungry writers looking to make a name. Comics (and also young adult fiction) just makes it a lot easier for them to do the same thing they were doing before. When you think about it, the periodical nature of comics (and to a lesser extent, currect YA fiction which more often than not, tends to be a book series rather than a single novel or two) makes it a great source for them to mine from. With hundreds of writers churning out material every month, there's a good chance for something to be worthwhile in all of that output.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 14:33:50 GMT -5
I heard Dynamite is bringing out a James Bond series in 2015 (makes sense, Bond 24 starts filming in 6 weeks)...has anyone got further info? Will it be comic versions of the novels?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 18:51:02 GMT -5
I heard Dynamite is bringing out a James Bond series in 2015 (makes sense, Bond 24 starts filming in 6 weeks)...has anyone got further info? Will it be comic versions of the novels? There's a link to the news article on the Bond license in the first quoted thread Jez. -M
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