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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 4, 2016 4:22:24 GMT -5
for those who can't abide slabbing books, I hear you, but just pretend this post doesn't exist  Can't do that... I'm even trying to find out how to like it multiple times! I find it quaint how the guy says "this might change the way you think about grading companies" when it actually confirms what I've been thinking all along. A nice complementary experiment (which would alas be expensive) would be to submit the same comic multiple times to the same company and show how much the final grade changes. The concept of experimental error never seems to be considered in the grading industry, which is basically based on a self-fulfilling prophecy. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 6, 2016 2:05:32 GMT -5
I enjoyed reading this Tripwire magazine interview with Howard Chaykin that touches on various points throughout his entire career. I came across it by accident, searching for info and/or images of his new series, Midnight of the Soul, which I only just heard about today. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 6, 2016 6:49:34 GMT -5
I enjoyed reading this Tripwire magazine interview with Howard Chaykin that touches on various points throughout his entire career. I came across it by accident, searching for info and/or images of his new series, Midnight of the Soul, which I only just heard about today.
That quote made my day! Chaykin's statement is doubly true in the French-speaking world, where there is no need to distinguish graphic novels from periodical comics because every bande dessinée is a graphic novel of sorts. (Literary critickques who use the term "graphic novel" in French are usually snobs who wouldn't be caught dead reading a comic). This, too, made me feel all warm inside : "(...) talent has to apologize and pander to an audience that operates under the mistaken impression that it has the right not to have its feelings hurt (...)"I really like Chaykin. *edit* : I had to refrain from posting more quotes from this excellent interview, even though agree 100% with what Mr. Chaykin says about Grant Morrison, anonymous critics in the social media, and social justice warriors. His vocabulary is simply too feather-ruffling for a family-friendly board! |
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Post by Warmonger on Jul 6, 2016 8:52:34 GMT -5
I enjoyed reading this Tripwire magazine interview with Howard Chaykin that touches on various points throughout his entire career. I came across it by accident, searching for info and/or images of his new series, Midnight of the Soul, which I only just heard about today.
That quote made my day! Chaykin's statement is doubly true in the French-speaking world, where there is no need to distinguish graphic novels from periodical comics because every bande dessinée is a graphic novel of sorts. (Literary critickques who use the term "graphic novel" in French are usually snobs who wouldn't be caught dead reading a comic). This, too, made me feel all warm inside : "(...) talent has to apologize and pander to an audience that operates under the mistaken impression that it has the right not to have its feelings hurt (...)"I really like Chaykin. *edit* : I had to refrain from posting more quotes from this excellent interview, even though agree 100% with what Mr. Chaykin says about Grant Morrison, anonymous critics in the social media, and social justice warriors. His vocabulary is simply too feather-ruffling for a family-friendly board! Totally agree with Chaykin when it comes to Grant Morrison. I've never understood what the big deal is about the guy. I've always thought of him as a lame Alan Moore/Neil Gaiman knockoff. Never really cared for anything he's done aside from his run on Animal Man. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 6, 2016 15:28:13 GMT -5
I enjoyed reading this Tripwire magazine interview with Howard Chaykin that touches on various points throughout his entire career. I came across it by accident, searching for info and/or images of his new series, Midnight of the Soul, which I only just heard about today.
That quote made my day! Chaykin's statement is doubly true in the French-speaking world, where there is no need to distinguish graphic novels from periodical comics because every bande dessinée is a graphic novel of sorts. (Literary critickques who use the term "graphic novel" in French are usually snobs who wouldn't be caught dead reading a comic). This, too, made me feel all warm inside : "(...) talent has to apologize and pander to an audience that operates under the mistaken impression that it has the right not to have its feelings hurt (...)"I really like Chaykin. *edit* : I had to refrain from posting more quotes from this excellent interview, even though agree 100% with what Mr. Chaykin says about Grant Morrison, anonymous critics in the social media, and social justice warriors. His vocabulary is simply too feather-ruffling for a family-friendly board! I know, it's full of memorable comments from Chaykin, who doesn't mind saying what he thinks on any subject whatsoever. I agree about the clumsy "graphic novel" term, though I must say I don't at all mind "cinema" or films": the latter in particular doesn't strike me as in the least pretentious and I find it useful for avoiding the monotony of saying "movies" ten times in one post. I also don't really agree with his characterisation of Morrison, but that doesn't prevent me from finding his remarks highly entertaining! |
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Post by MDG on Jul 7, 2016 8:09:11 GMT -5
I agree about the clumsy "graphic novel" term, though I must say I don't at all mind "cinema" or films": the latter in particular doesn't strike me as in the least pretentious and I find it useful for avoiding the monotony of saying "movies" ten times in one post. My problem with the term "graphic novel" is the "novel" part--as in prose, it implies a certain length and depth or complexity beyond a "story," and is written as a unit, even if originally published serially. So, something like "Black Hole" by Burns or "Black Kiss" by Chaykin could be considered GNs, though I'd say Clowes' "Ghost World" is a collection of stories. In common use, though, GN seems to recall just mean "comics published in a big book." From the same online source: Novel: an invented prose narrative that is usually long and complex and deals especially with human experience through a usually connected sequence of events Graphic Novel: a fictional story that is presented in comic-strip format and published as a book To bring this back around, the interview made me want to pull out and re-read some Chaykin, especially Times Squared, which I only read once and have no memory of. |
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 8, 2016 18:21:06 GMT -5
Totally agree that's mostly what the term means, which is not correct.
All cognac is brandy, but not all brandy is cognac.
All graphic novels are comics, but not all comics are graphic novels.
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