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Post by String on May 26, 2016 17:27:38 GMT -5
I never knew that Steve had such big ears.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 17:29:44 GMT -5
I never knew that Steve had such big ears. All the better to hear you with...  -M |
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Post by Batflunkie on May 26, 2016 17:31:08 GMT -5
Did anyone check to see if Captain America was really made out of bees? (see mrp's signature) bees! I can't think of a better possible excuse to use this clip from Kids In The Hall |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 26, 2016 17:38:30 GMT -5
I never knew that Steve had such big ears. Everything is larger in America! |
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Post by dupersuper on May 26, 2016 20:51:37 GMT -5
Well let's see, Marvel's goal was to create buzz on the book, since the revelation was already being talked about in 2 other threads and now has it's own thread, mission accomplished. Everywhere on the interwebs is buzzing about this and people are screaming for Nick Spencer's head, but everyone is talking about this so Marvel is back in the newscycle...There's no such thing as bad publicity in the corporate mindset. -M If buzz equals sales instead of boycotts...
I know I'm not getting it now.
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Post by dupersuper on May 26, 2016 20:52:17 GMT -5
Taken from an article by the Daily Wire Jeez. It'd almost be worth keeping Cap a Nazi just to piss this yahoo off. |
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Post by dupersuper on May 26, 2016 21:02:32 GMT -5
I can't think of a better possible excuse to use this clip from Kids In The Hall One never needs an excuse to post KiTH videos...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 21:13:33 GMT -5
Well let's see, Marvel's goal was to create buzz on the book, since the revelation was already being talked about in 2 other threads and now has it's own thread, mission accomplished. Everywhere on the interwebs is buzzing about this and people are screaming for Nick Spencer's head, but everyone is talking about this so Marvel is back in the newscycle...There's no such thing as bad publicity in the corporate mindset. -M And of course it happened to come out the same day as DC's Rebirth #1, stealing a lot of that book's thunder. |
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Post by Batflunkie on May 26, 2016 21:20:34 GMT -5
Well let's see, Marvel's goal was to create buzz on the book, since the revelation was already being talked about in 2 other threads and now has it's own thread, mission accomplished. Everywhere on the interwebs is buzzing about this and people are screaming for Nick Spencer's head, but everyone is talking about this so Marvel is back in the newscycle...There's no such thing as bad publicity in the corporate mindset. -M And of course it happened to come out the same day as DC's Rebirth #1, stealing a lot of that book's thunder. I don't see this "victory" over DC having much of a lasting effect in the monitary long-term. If anything it's just shown how low Marvel is willing go go to turn a quick profit with no thought given to the possible outcome |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 21:44:49 GMT -5
And of course it happened to come out the same day as DC's Rebirth #1, stealing a lot of that book's thunder. I don't see this "victory" over DC having much of a lasting effect in the monitary long-term. If anything it's just shown how low Marvel is willing go go to turn a quick profit with no thought given to the possible outcome So pretty much standard operating procedure for both of the big 2 since at least the turn of the century...and more likely well back into the 90s as well. -M |
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Post by Batflunkie on May 26, 2016 22:05:17 GMT -5
I don't see this "victory" over DC having much of a lasting effect in the monitary long-term. If anything it's just shown how low Marvel is willing go go to turn a quick profit with no thought given to the possible outcome So pretty much standard operating procedure for both of the big 2 since at least the turn of the century...and more likely well back into the 90s as well. I hate to think of comics becoming on par with pro wrestling and nascar in terms of "trashy" entertainment, but this is what they "think" we want |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 22:55:18 GMT -5
So pretty much standard operating procedure for both of the big 2 since at least the turn of the century...and more likely well back into the 90s as well. I hate to think of comics becoming on par with pro wrestling and nascar in terms of "trashy" entertainment, but this is what they "think" we want Comics have always been thought of as trashy entertainment by the mass culture since the Golden Age onwards. It's only in the 80s where pretensions of legitimacy and it being a high brow entertainment form really set in, but the 90s set the lie to that thought. Sure there are some literary comics, but they are exceptions not the rule-same as any other entertainment form or medium. So really, with type of stuff in comics, it's going back to its roots if anything. -M |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 26, 2016 23:04:13 GMT -5
So pretty much standard operating procedure for both of the big 2 since at least the turn of the century...and more likely well back into the 90s as well. I hate to think of comics becoming on par with pro wrestling and nascar in terms of "trashy" entertainment, but this is what they "think" we want Sales would indicate it is exactly what comic buyers want. And as mrp pointed out, comics have always been disposable trash entertainment. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 23:26:44 GMT -5
Everything old is new again.... Cap saluting Hitler...as drawn by Jack Kirby himself...  and this page from Cap #234 published in 1979...  yes this new Marvel has no respect for the past and will do anything in a story to get a rise out of it's audience... Nick Spencer gets death threats from comics fans and proud Americans for making Cap a Nazi sympathizer Hydra agent, Joe Simon got death threats for having Cap punch Hitler on the cover of Captain America Comics #1 in 1941 from comics fans and proud Americans. Yes, we've never seen anything like this ever before in a Captain America comic book... Cue Santayana's quote or something like that here... -M |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on May 27, 2016 4:25:38 GMT -5
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This is very disturbing... I remember when Brubaker first hinted of Bucky still being alive and all the vitriol he got from it. I don't remember if there was death threats, but there sure were some very nasty attacks on that decision. After the story was finally told, it became the universaly loved cap story, or at least one of the top ones ever.
Why would we instantly believe this is just a publicity stunt and not a well thought story that will unfold in a spectacular way (a good one I mean)? Nick Spencer just launched one of the most acclaimed titles of 2016 (The Fix) and has been responsible for many well regarded books. I personnaly haven't been that exposed to his work, mostly because a reality check on the amout of time available to me, but one thing I'm sure Spencer isn't is a Scott Lobdell or a Fabian Nicieza, so I really dont understand this reflex-like lack of faith. What I suspect is that the vast majority of those who criticize this haven't bought the issue in question and never would have whatever content it withholds. This obviously is such a bold move that it must have been initiated at editorial level, and Spencer has on the record stated that this had been the core of discussions during the past two Marvel summits, so that wouldn't be some whim just carelessly thrown at the gossip sites to generate hype.
But, really, when did we get that impatient that we start to dismiss anything after the first 20 pages of a several hundred pages story if it hints at temporary shake of the status quo, when we as comic readers know all too well that there will be new shakes at least every consecutive 20 pages?
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