|
|
Post by tolworthy on Aug 30, 2016 7:53:07 GMT -5
" If I can't trust the President..." I think Superman's position re: JFK is more nuanced.  Though to be fair, Superman's position to a lot of people is... nuanced.     Of course, this is always doppelgangers, and brainwashing and stuff. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. I am sure Superman would never just, well, lose control.  ( credit) |
|
|
|
Post by Icctrombone on Aug 30, 2016 9:23:13 GMT -5
IIRC, all or most of the above involves mind control or possession by another person. The panel with the woman with glasses was well deserved because she was a terrorist .
|
|
|
|
Post by adamwarlock2099 on Aug 30, 2016 10:31:47 GMT -5
I like that in the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited I recently watched that Bruce is still the only one that pretty much tells Superman to *uc* off when he doesn't agree with one of his league decisions. Superman can be a dick all he wants, but Bruce ain't taking it when he knows it is a bad decision.
But as far as humorously, I love those covers on superdickery because I know the boy scout Superman in modern age comics, not that dick he was back then. Werthman may have been right on at least one comic title leading to delinquency.
|
|
|
|
Post by The Captain on Aug 30, 2016 10:49:27 GMT -5
My blood is boiling. There are no words for his behavior here  No one else has mentioned this, so I feel it my duty to point out the phallic shape of the rocket shell that Superman has constructed to get rid of Supergirl. "In addition to berating you for the 'crime' of being a lonely teenager playing with a dog, I'm going to send you away in as humiliating a fashion as possible, that of being sealed inside a penis-shaped shell that further cements my male dominance over you, you stupid girl." |
|
|
|
Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 30, 2016 11:51:56 GMT -5
So, I'm conversing with my bud Iccy the horn blower over at the Retcon thread about how Superman abandoned his adopted mother on the 1950s TV show Adventures Of Superman, leaving her as a widow on a farm, all alone, as he goes to Metropolis for me-time Got me thinking of other Superman shenanigans that you got to shake your head about In fact, there's a great website, SUPERDICKERY that's devoted to this subject and I'm sure others here have some examples Here's one that's very, very disturbing So his cousin Kara arrives on Earth when Supes is an adult. Krypton is gone, Argo City where she grew up is gone, every one she ever knew is dead. But lo and behold, she actually finds a survivor and lucky lucky her he's family So what does he do. Sends her to an orphanage. WTF? Is this heartless or what. She's not a baby, she's a young teen but he thinks she is gonna cramp his style or something? This guy can juggle planets but can't figure out how to be her ward. Ask your buddy Bruce Wayne, he knows all about taking young kids off the streets and putting them in shorty super costumes And to top it all off, Superman tells Kara to keep her mouth shut. Don't tell anyone you know me. "You'll be my secret weapon. kiddo" No, he won't give proper comfort to the only other surviving relative from Krypton but he has plenty of time for his dog Krypto Hoosier can probably give alot more details, but those early Supergirl stories are pretty much the Master Class of Superdickery.... the worst (best?) one is when he banishes her from Earth for saving someone but risking her secret identity... and leaves her there a couple weeks before calling her back and telling her it was all a test. |
|
|
|
Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 30, 2016 12:57:57 GMT -5
When I was 12 years old, like so many other Superman readers, we fell for his excuses of dickian behavior
'It was a test.Just kidding"
"Red K caused me to act that way but now it wore off"
"So sorry. I was mind controlled"
Addicts and alcoholics have better excuses
But now we have grown up, learned the ways of the world and know better
I have another Superdickery observation coming up. Even worse than the treatment of his cousin and the death of JFK
|
|
|
|
Post by tingramretro on Aug 30, 2016 13:15:27 GMT -5
The panel with the woman with glasses was well deserved because she was a terrorist . Yes, well, possibly a matter for debate, there... |
|
|
|
Post by Icctrombone on Aug 30, 2016 19:24:11 GMT -5
I just spent the last 20 minutes on YouTube looking for a clip of he 50's Superman tv show for this thread. The episode has two criminals that discover Superman is Clark Kent and our hero ends the episode by flying them both to the top of a mountain to "decide" what to do with them. He warns them not to try to escape because the steep drop will kill them. Well, they try to climb down and they both fall to their deaths. Way to go , Man of Steel.  |
|
|
|
Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 30, 2016 21:52:08 GMT -5
Nobody knows the diversity of the universe like Silver Age Superman. For years he went on regular patrols throughout the galaxies to help civilizations and occasionally test them with cruel stunts. It seemed every alien race knew about Superman. He had access to The Green Lantern Corps and The Guardians Of Oa. He had access to Hawkman's Absorbascon. He had access to The Legion Of Super-Heroes database. In a nutshell, Superman knew the universe quite well One of the great story elements of Silver Age Supes was The Bottle City Of Kandor.  Rescued from Brainiac, Superman kept it in his Fortress of Solitude like an ant farm. He'd pretend concern about their predicament and vowed to come up with a way to enlarge them and release them into the world. Actually, he would have sent them to an orphanage like he did his cousin . Superman would moan and moan about tiny Kandor as they fed his ego, looking up to him like a god (they looked up to everyone, Krypto too) For over 20 years, Superman kept telling the Kandorians to be patient  So-Can someone tell me why Superman couldn't just find a nice planet for the tiny Kandorians and take them out of the bottle? How humiliating being bottled. Ask Barbara Eden, she didn't like it. Superman must have known thousands of planets that would be comfy for the Kandorians no matter their size. Size don't matter in the universe, it's how you use it. Size is all relative. He could have picked a planet with a yellow sun and they;d have superpowers too. Or maybe, that's why Supes didn't do it. Just maybe, that is the reason Anyway, he could have released them and come back later and made them bigger when he figured out how to do so. Either that or he'd have to find a rather large orphanage. Or kill them because they knew his identity |
|
|
|
Post by dupersuper on Aug 30, 2016 21:59:27 GMT -5
So, I'm conversing with my bud Iccy the horn blower over at the Retcon thread about how Superman abandoned his adopted mother on the 1950s TV show Adventures Of Superman, leaving her as a widow on a farm, all alone, as he goes to Metropolis for me-time Got me thinking of other Superman shenanigans that you got to shake your head about In fact, there's a great website, SUPERDICKERY that's devoted to this subject and I'm sure others here have some examples Here's one that's very, very disturbing So his cousin Kara arrives on Earth when Supes is an adult. Krypton is gone, Argo City where she grew up is gone, every one she ever knew is dead. But lo and behold, she actually finds a survivor and lucky lucky her he's family So what does he do. Sends her to an orphanage. WTF? Is this heartless or what. She's not a baby, she's a young teen but he thinks she is gonna cramp his style or something? This guy can juggle planets but can't figure out how to be her ward. Ask your buddy Bruce Wayne, he knows all about taking young kids off the streets and putting them in shorty super costumes And to top it all off, Superman tells Kara to keep her mouth shut. Don't tell anyone you know me. "You'll be my secret weapon. kiddo" No, he won't give proper comfort to the only other surviving relative from Krypton but he has plenty of time for his dog Krypto Superdickory's fun, and I've never got his treatment of pre-Crisis Supergirl, but are you saying children can never leave home if 1 of their parents are dead? Getting an education and career is "me-time"? I thought that was a bubble bath... |
|
|
|
Post by dupersuper on Aug 30, 2016 22:25:57 GMT -5
He could definitely be a dick at times, but more than anything, I always just found him incredibly boring. He's the perfect, goody two-shoes Boy Scout who never really wrestles with any sort of moral dilemma. Nothing can really hurt him either to my knowledge. Yeah, kryptonite and magic, but it's not like either has a chance of actually putting a permanent end to him. IDK, guess it's just a matter of preference. I've been a big Punisher fan for decades and a lot of my comic buddies have always given me crap for it. Less so since Ennis' run under the MAX label. I agree that his omnipotence is boring, Oneill tried to power him down, that was forgotten... Bryne did a great job in the reboot, but within 10 years he was planet juggling again.. Um...no he wasn't... |
|
|
|
Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 30, 2016 22:26:19 GMT -5
Superdickory's fun, and I've never got his treatment of pre-Crisis Supergirl, but are you saying children can never leave home if 1 of their parents are dead? Getting an education and career is "me-time"? I thought that was a bubble bath... Dumping a teenage girl in an orphanage would be a last resort. He didn't even take her to Disneyland first . |
|
|
|
Post by tolworthy on Aug 30, 2016 22:39:52 GMT -5
So-Can someone tell me why Superman couldn't just find a nice planet for the tiny Kandorians and take them out of the bottle? Superman must have known thousands of planets that would be comfy for the Kandorians no matter their size. Size don't matter in the universe, it's how you use it. I wonder if Fantastic Four issue 8 was influenced by this? When planet X blows up, kind of like Krypton, and Mr Fantastic rescues them by shrinking them, kind of like Kandor, he doesn't humiliate them by putting them in a bottle. He just drops them off on another planet. Because as you say, scale is trivial really.  How humiliating being bottled. Ask Barbara Eden, she didn't like it. Kandor had it FAR worse. Barbara's bottle was made of brass: at least she had privacy. But every woman in Kandor has to bathe and sleep and dress and use the bathroom knowing that Superman could be watching, and overhearing every sound. No wonder he called the city Kandor: Candour means nothing is hidden. Plus, to add to the humiliation, ever wonder where their food comes from? It would have to be recycled. That bottle has no room for storage, so it's straight from the sewage plant to the recycling center to the table, every day, year after year. And the smell! Not to emntion the heat. Ew. |
|
|
|
Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 30, 2016 22:40:48 GMT -5
I agree that his omnipotence is boring, Oneill tried to power him down, that was forgotten... Bryne did a great job in the reboot, but within 10 years he was planet juggling again.. Um...no he wasn't... I was exaggerating, but his powers did increase after Byrnes' departure and throughout the 90's didn't they? |
|
|
|
Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 30, 2016 23:00:30 GMT -5
Having that bottled Kandor in his fortress really fed Superman's ego. He loved to point it out to his visitors and tell them how they worshipped him. In fact, there were 2 different squads of tiny Kandorians in the bottle just waiting for Superman to give them some orders The Superman Emergency Squad- a bunch of gnat sized Kandorians that would come out and basically be willing to sacrifice their lives to save Superman from Kryptonite and other perils  The Superman Look Alike Squad- Kandorians that look exactly like Superman's friends. What an ego-trip that must be  This is just plain sick  |
|
