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Post by coinilius on Aug 30, 2016 23:02:32 GMT -5
But every woman in Kandor has to bathe and sleep and dress and use the bathroom knowing that Superman could be watching, and overhearing every sound. tolworthy: isn't that the same for everyone on earth as well? With his powers, Superman can watch everybody use the bathroom anytime he wants, unless they're in a lead lined water closet. And forget about clothes, he can see through them anyway! Actually, Superman American Alien mentioned this - teenage Clark says that he did try perving on people through their clothes but they were all strange and squished looking because they were still in clothes, he was just looking through the clothes at their junk in all unusual positions. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 30, 2016 23:14:13 GMT -5
There was a great skit with the original cast of Saturday Night Live. The skit was "What If Superman's Rocket Landed In Germany And He Became A Nazi? "
The skit showed Superman in a gestapo's office and a prisoner was brought in for questioning (I think the prisoner was Al Franken)
Superman uses his X-ray vision and says " That man is Jewish"
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Post by Action Ace on Aug 30, 2016 23:41:03 GMT -5
There was a great skit with the original cast of Saturday Night Live. The skit was "What If Superman's Rocket Landed In Germany And He Became A Nazi? " The skit showed Superman in a gestapo's office and a prisoner was brought in for questioning (I think the prisoner was Al Franken) Superman uses his X-ray vision and says " That man is Jewish" and here it is What If? |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 30, 2016 23:56:22 GMT -5
There was a great skit with the original cast of Saturday Night Live. The skit was "What If Superman's Rocket Landed In Germany And He Became A Nazi? " The skit showed Superman in a gestapo's office and a prisoner was brought in for questioning (I think the prisoner was Al Franken) Superman uses his X-ray vision and says " That man is Jewish" and here it is What If?Fantastic AA. Even better then what I recalled |
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 31, 2016 0:03:13 GMT -5
There was a great skit with the original cast of Saturday Night Live. The skit was "What If Superman's Rocket Landed In Germany And He Became A Nazi? " The skit showed Superman in a gestapo's office and a prisoner was brought in for questioning (I think the prisoner was Al Franken) Superman uses his X-ray vision and says " That man is Jewish" and here it is What If?This is gold... |
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Post by dupersuper on Aug 31, 2016 0:18:03 GMT -5
I was exaggerating, but his powers did increase after Byrnes' departure and throughout the 90's didn't they? Eventually, but never quite to pre-Crisis levels. Besides, I'm with Morrison on this: it doesn't matter how strong Superman is. He's as strong as you need him to be. Saying he's too powerful while characters like Batman and Wolverine are treated like plot-protected gods and Silver Surfer, Thor, Spectre, Doctor Fate, Doctor Strange, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Hulk, the Green Lanterns et al have books is silly. It's not like Batman or Daredevil aren't functionally just as invulnerable (spoiler for the next million issues of Batman: Batman lives). |
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Post by dupersuper on Aug 31, 2016 0:23:44 GMT -5
Having that bottled Kandor in his fortress really fed Superman's ego. He loved to point it out to his visitors and tell them how they worshipped him. In fact, there were 2 different squads of tiny Kandorians in the bottle just waiting for Superman to give them some orders The Superman Emergency Squad- a bunch of gnat sized Kandorians that would come out and basically be willing to sacrifice their lives to save Superman from Kryptonite and other perils The Superman Look Alike Squad- Kandorians that look exactly like Superman's friends. What an ego-trip that must be  I...why? |
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 31, 2016 0:42:05 GMT -5
I was exaggerating, but his powers did increase after Byrnes' departure and throughout the 90's didn't they? Eventually, but never quite to pre-Crisis levels. Besides, I'm with Morrison on this: it doesn't matter how strong Superman is. He's as strong as you need him to be. Saying he's too powerful while characters like Batman and Wolverine are treated like plot-protected gods and Silver Surfer, Thor, Spectre, Doctor Fate, Doctor Strange, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Hulk, the Green Lanterns et al have books is silly. It's not like Batman or Daredevil aren't functionally just as invulnerable (spoiler for the next million issues of Batman: Batman lives). I get that, and I wasn't trying to be a dick or shit on Supes... great point with Wolverine. I always enjoyed when his healing factor was taxed to the limit during the Claremont years. Made him MUCH more interesting, but that went out the window when got the adamantium back... |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 31, 2016 0:58:10 GMT -5
Just 2 curious boys checking each other out.  |
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Post by coinilius on Aug 31, 2016 1:19:08 GMT -5
I love how the implication of that cover is that Clark just walks around using his X-Ray vision to check out every hot new guy in town lol
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 31, 2016 4:48:30 GMT -5
Just 2 curious boys checking each other out. No one is checking out Lana. Not that there's anything wrong with that... |
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Post by Pól Rua on Aug 31, 2016 9:45:42 GMT -5
Part of it is societal context.
In the New Deal era, Superman is very much a reformer, taking the fight to the powerful. Then when the war hits, he gains a new foe to fight. However, after the war, the superheroes died out. Nobody really wanted to fight anymore, so with no real enemies, many of Superman's adventures took on the air of a TV sit-com.
He became that defender of the status quo 'Super-Dad', Desi Arnez or Dick Van Dyke or Darren Stevens... increasingly having to wrangle those around him and try and contain the chaos caused by his nosy 'girl friend' and those 'crazy teenagers', and what's more, it was during a period where the message was that girls stay home and they certainly don't go off having adventures.Basically, you end up with a character that has the authority and self-bestowed maturity of a kid's idea of a grown-up, surrounded by annoying childish pests.
If you look back at old episodes of 'The Lucy Show' or 'Bewitched', Ricky Ricardo and Darren Stevens are pretty much colossal dicks, too.
Add that to the fact that the writers of the time weren't trying to understand the backstory or the consequences of what they were writing, and they were aimed at kids (almost entirely young boys), and those messages were tailored to that audience - girls are icky pests, little brothers are gross and annoying. Plus, it's a fantasy world. If you think it'd be neat to have a flying dog like Lassie or Rin-Tin-Tin with amazing powers, there it is. An ant-farm full of tiny alien people? Sure! They don't really exist except to be keen ideas.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 31, 2016 10:01:13 GMT -5
Wish I could "like" the preceding post more than once.
Cei-U!
I summon the huzzahs!
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Post by Pól Rua on Aug 31, 2016 10:07:43 GMT -5
Holy crap, Michael Palin! |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 31, 2016 10:44:19 GMT -5
Just to set the record straight, I hope you all do understand I'm having fun with this.
Superman and I go back about 56 years. I'm not sure if it was the TV reruns I first started with or the comics, but I started reading Action and Superman about 1962, a few months after the price of comics rose to "gasp" 12 cents. As for the George Reeves' shows, I've probably watched each episode at least 20 times in my life and bought the DVD collections as well. Read all the Superman family of books all the way to about 1973 or so when I took a comic book sabbatical of a few years . Resumed my Superman reading with Byrne's takeover and only stopped a year after the Nu52
So, all in all, I probably read more Superman stories than any super hero character on god's green earth. Silver Age Supes will always be my fav, not only for my being at the proper impressionable age, but I loved the art of Curt Swan and Kurt Schaffenberger along with that cool retro Wayne Boring style. And the ideas that sprang from the minds of Otto Binder, Edmund Hamilton, Jerry Siegel etc. where just as rich and full of story potential as what Lee and Kirby produced.
Only later as an adult when you think back at them do you see the weirdness and nutso qualities. it adds a whole new dimension to them.
God, I miss Beppo the Super-Monkey, the Jimmy Olsen Fan Club, Professor Potter, Proty, the Superman Revenge Squad and on and on. These Superman family comics were selling, literally, millions of copies month after month. So obviously they were doing something right
Those who were not around for the silver age don't have the understanding of the context of those times, that they were written under a stringent comics code and written for a children's marketplace but despite that, they are surely all time classics
So forgive my tugging on Superman's cape. He's a big boy, he understands.
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