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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 7:01:26 GMT -5
So, I'm conversing with my bud Iccy the horn blower over at the Retcon thread about how Superman abandoned his adopted mother on the 1950s TV show Adventures Of Superman, leaving her as a widow on a farm, all alone, as he goes to Metropolis for me-time
Got me thinking of other Superman shenanigans that you got to shake your head about
In fact, there's a great website, SUPERDICKERY that's devoted to this subject and I'm sure others here have some examples
Here's one that's very, very disturbing
So his cousin Kara arrives on Earth when Supes is an adult. Krypton is gone, Argo City where she grew up is gone, every one she ever knew is dead. But lo and behold, she actually finds a survivor and lucky lucky her he's family
So what does he do. Sends her to an orphanage. WTF? Is this heartless or what. She's not a baby, she's a young teen but he thinks she is gonna cramp his style or something? This guy can juggle planets but can't figure out how to be her ward. Ask your buddy Bruce Wayne, he knows all about taking young kids off the streets and putting them in shorty super costumes
And to top it all off, Superman tells Kara to keep her mouth shut. Don't tell anyone you know me. "You'll be my secret weapon. kiddo"
No, he won't give proper comfort to the only other surviving relative from Krypton but he has plenty of time for his dog Krypto
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 29, 2016 7:20:28 GMT -5
She's a big secret no one can know exists, flying around in a red cape deftly using her heat vision on water fountains to hide her as she engages in derring-do...
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 7:29:57 GMT -5
Yeah, and Superman gives her the secret identity name of Linda Lee. Another LL name like Lois Lane, Lana Lang, Lori Lemaris and so on. What unmitigated conceipt, naming her like that to remind him of his girlfriends. You know, I'm really getting mad about this
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 29, 2016 7:35:22 GMT -5
Geez that's right! (Nice one with Lori Lemaris btw) And why did she need the frikkin' wig? The rage is contagious...
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 7:38:16 GMT -5
My blood is boiling. There are no words for his behavior here
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Post by tingramretro on Aug 29, 2016 7:43:54 GMT -5
So the poor kid isn't even allowed to play with the dog? I never liked Superman; seems I was right not to.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 7:47:39 GMT -5
So the poor kid isn't even allowed to play with the dog? I never liked Superman; seems I was right not to. Got that right. I could see the scene that Superman dreads. One of the other orphans saying "What's Krypto doing here? You must be Supergirl, who none of us ever heard of before"
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 29, 2016 7:50:55 GMT -5
With great power comes great d-baggery...
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 8:01:18 GMT -5
My heart's breaking for poor Kara back in those early days. So she's forced into an orphanage and must take the vow of omerta. In order to fly around at night when no one can see her, she builds a tunnel that lets her exit in the forest
This is exactly what convicts or POWs do to escape confinement. And what did she do wrong? She exists, that's all.
All this while Supes has his luxury fortress with the giant golden key, built-in interplanetary zoo, and statues of himself and his girlfriends.
Luthor doesn't look so bad all of a sudden
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 29, 2016 8:05:48 GMT -5
It really was a sign of the times, Silver age Supes was a cad. I read a lot of those stories from a large omnibus my grandfather had, went up to '71 I believe...
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 29, 2016 8:11:55 GMT -5
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 29, 2016 8:17:38 GMT -5
Superman isn't a jerk but Mort Weisinger sure as hell was.
Cei-U! I summon the misogynistic bully!
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Post by Warmonger on Aug 29, 2016 8:23:00 GMT -5
He could definitely be a dick at times, but more than anything, I always just found him incredibly boring.
He's the perfect, goody two-shoes Boy Scout who never really wrestles with any sort of moral dilemma.
Nothing can really hurt him either to my knowledge. Yeah, kryptonite and magic, but it's not like either has a chance of actually putting a permanent end to him.
IDK, guess it's just a matter of preference. I've been a big Punisher fan for decades and a lot of my comic buddies have always given me crap for it. Less so since Ennis' run under the MAX label.
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Post by Snikts and Stones on Aug 29, 2016 8:32:43 GMT -5
He could definitely be a dick at times, but more than anything, I always just found him incredibly boring. He's the perfect, goody two-shoes Boy Scout who never really wrestles with any sort of moral dilemma. Nothing can really hurt him either to my knowledge. Yeah, kryptonite and magic, but it's not like either has a chance of actually putting a permanent end to him. IDK, guess it's just a matter of preference. I've been a big Punisher fan for decades and a lot of my comic buddies have always given me crap for it. Less so since Ennis' run under the MAX label. I agree that his omnipotence is boring, Oneill tried to power him down, that was forgotten... Bryne did a great job in the reboot, but within 10 years he was planet juggling again..
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Aug 29, 2016 8:36:42 GMT -5
He's the perfect, goody two-shoes Boy Scout who never really wrestles with any sort of moral dilemma. Ah, but that's just the image he wanted you to see. Reading Silver-Age Supes in a certain light reveals something quite different There's a treasure trove of hideous schemes he played on his ''friends" to teach them lessons. And lots of spanking scenes in the Superman family books If tolworthy wasn't so immersed in analyzing The Fantastic Four and other Kirby books, he'd have a field day on this subject
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