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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 22:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 25, 2016 23:22:07 GMT -5
Nope; just repetitive plots and art that didn't do much for me. I sampled the waters when Jim Lee was drawing; but, didn't think much of the story. I have no problem with Wolverine being saved by women, elves, smurfs or whatever. Did you just equate me with a smurf?Only if you go around singing that damn, "La... la, la, la, la, la; la, la, la, la, la..." song!
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 25, 2016 23:41:46 GMT -5
Well, when the weight of the world hits me, I just sit back and listen to the wisdom of Satchmo....
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 25, 2016 23:46:41 GMT -5
And, then, I listen to this:
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Post by earl on Nov 26, 2016 2:21:59 GMT -5
The X-men got spoiled by it's success to me and there just being so many other good comics going on, it became a very secondary book for me to follow. I kept reading it up pretty close to when I quit comics cold in early 1990, but it hadn't been a favorite for a long time and really I was more into indies and the DC reboots the last few years of the 80s.
I suppose what I didn't like was every month they found more and more mutants and more and more altered timelines and more and more mutant killers. It obviously worked, as it was a cottage industry playing out all that dark persecution over boodles of titles for 20+ years from the 80s. I think at some point, the series kinda lost it's moral center it seems, probably starting with Magneto is a "good guy" perhaps.
JR Jr's artwork was always fine with me and his style was a bit ahead of it's time in the 80s as to me it almost had slight Japanese look with all the speed lines and clean style. His style definitely has kept changing over the years. Romita Jr. seems to be on a big Kirby kick now by comparison with his current style.
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Post by tingramretro on Nov 26, 2016 4:24:20 GMT -5
I have absoutely no idea what this even means. Was I missing something? J.R. Jr was paying a lot of attention to current fashions and was very much a fan of the 1980's nightlife. He loved bars and clubs and such and seemed to be quite aware of what was in and what wasn't. The way he dressed characters often reflected then-modern trends, which gave the X-Men a certain contemporary avant-garde look the likes of which Stan Lee, in the sixties, could only have dreamed. Yes, that sometimes meant mullets... but hey, mullets were cool at a certain point! Ah. What was or wasn't currently fashionable and whether or not his art reflected it would have gone totally unnoticed by me. I have never had any interest in such things. I just knew I didn't like his art much. I don't think I've ever really been a fan of Romita Jr, though I'm much more aware of disliking his stuff nowadays whereas then, I basically just ignored it. I don't know what it is that grates on me about his style, but whatever it is has become more pronounced over the years.
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Post by tingramretro on Nov 26, 2016 4:30:52 GMT -5
I have absoutely no idea what this even means. Was I missing something? If you've looked at any JR JR Uncanny X-Men comics recently, these images might look familiar... Karl Lagerfeld Donna Karan More Donna Karan Betty Jackson Emanuel Ungaro Valentino (is that Linda Evangilista?) Menswear as womenswear. Shoulderpads. Asymmetry Volume. Volume. Volume. Suspenders. Kimonos. Patterns that look like brigadine armor worn by samurai. Often androgynous. Occasionally punk. At times very queer. Ah. Yes, vaguely. I wouldn't really have noticed. Clothes and image were never a priority for me. I spent much of the eighties in jeans and an old biker jacket (which I still own but can no longer zip up). I was momentarily confused by your reference to suspenders, incidentally, as in Britain, those are called braces; suspenders are what women use to hold their stockings up.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 26, 2016 7:22:20 GMT -5
I have absoutely no idea what this even means. Was I missing something? J.R. Jr was paying a lot of attention to current fashions and was very much a fan of the 1980's nightlife. He loved bars and clubs and such and seemed to be quite aware of what was in and what wasn't. The way he dressed characters often reflected then-modern trends, which gave the X-Men a certain contemporary avant-garde look the likes of which Stan Lee, in the sixties, could only have dreamed. Yes, that sometimes meant mullets... but hey, mullets were cool at a certain point! Mullets were popular at a certain point, but they were never ever ever ever ever never "cool", regardless of how many hockey-playing hosers or pop music poseurs had them.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 26, 2016 7:26:30 GMT -5
Nope; just repetitive plots and art that didn't do much for me. I sampled the waters when Jim Lee was drawing; but, didn't think much of the story. I have no problem with Wolverine being saved by women, elves, smurfs or whatever. Did you just equate me with a smurf?Heavens no! No self-respecting Smurf would ever be caught drinking Old Style.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 26, 2016 7:40:07 GMT -5
J.R. Jr was paying a lot of attention to current fashions and was very much a fan of the 1980's nightlife. He loved bars and clubs and such and seemed to be quite aware of what was in and what wasn't. The way he dressed characters often reflected then-modern trends, which gave the X-Men a certain contemporary avant-garde look the likes of which Stan Lee, in the sixties, could only have dreamed. Yes, that sometimes meant mullets... but hey, mullets were cool at a certain point! Mullets were popular at a certain point, but they were never ever ever ever ever never "cool", regardless of how many hockey-playing hosers or pop music poseurs had them. Don't forget Superman!
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Post by dbutler69 on Nov 26, 2016 9:45:39 GMT -5
Yes, I agree that the fun was lost be about the mid-80's. I've got a full run from #94-143 but it gets spotted after that, with many gaps. They're easy to get though. Yes, there are still some good issues after #143, but they gradually become fewer and farther between.
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Nov 26, 2016 9:52:01 GMT -5
Did you just equate me with a smurf? Heavens no! No self-respecting Smurf would ever be caught drinking Old Style. But what, exactly, would a self-respecting Smurf drink?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 26, 2016 10:19:26 GMT -5
Heavens no! No self-respecting Smurf would ever be caught drinking Old Style. But what, exactly, would a self-respecting Smurf drink? <comic book nerd mode>Salsparilla tea or raspberry juice!</comic book nerd mode>
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Nov 26, 2016 10:49:15 GMT -5
But what, exactly, would a self-respecting Smurf drink? <comic book nerd mode>Salsparilla tea or raspberry juice!</comic book nerd mode> Look, I think smurfs should be allowed a beer on occasion. A glass of wine is more my thing, but I try not to dictate the beverages of others.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 26, 2016 11:54:11 GMT -5
Heavens no! No self-respecting Smurf would ever be caught drinking Old Style. But what, exactly, would a self-respecting Smurf drink?
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