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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 17:25:41 GMT -5
Because he made everything work. <3 Because he's Bowie. And I miss him.  Yes I miss him too. I can't belive it's been almost a year since we lost him. |
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Post by RikerDonegal on Nov 29, 2016 14:45:08 GMT -5
Because he made everything work. <3 Because he's Bowie. And I miss him. Me, too!  I've been listening to a lot of Bowie this year. |
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Nov 29, 2016 14:56:01 GMT -5
Because he made everything work. <3 Because he's Bowie. And I miss him. Me, too! I've been listening to a lot of Bowie this year. I have only, probably in the last 1-1.5 months, really been able to start listening to Bowie again. Blackstar is such a well-planned masterpiece, and is definitely, sadly, my favorite 2016 album release. I can listen to him now, while working, as long as I don'the start thinking about the fact that he is gone, or as long as someone isn'the around who decides they want to start talking about the fact that he is dead and how sad it is. |
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Post by Mormel on Dec 1, 2016 5:45:00 GMT -5
Even though my favourite 'era' of the X-Men is when Kitty Pryde had her first tenure (139-212-ish) --with a special love for the issues that featured Rachel Summers--, my favourite late 70s Claremont issues are from when the team gets abducted by Mesmero up to when they meet Alpha Flight. I love the wild trip that takes them to the Savage Land, Japan, and Canada. It's a fun series of adventure stories with some really cool character development for just about everyone. You slowly see the new X-Men bond into a real team. And the John Byrne art is amazing.
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Post by badwolf on Mar 13, 2017 18:01:21 GMT -5
I gave up UXM somewhere in the 230s. It had been running on empty for me for a while, but when you've been following characters for so long (since the Dark Phoenix saga), it's hard to give them up. I had never liked JRJR's art; I think it might have been okay when he first came on the book, but it got increasingly loose, sketchy and ugly. (And speaking of ugly--some of those costumes!) I was tired of hearing about Rachel's future and all the baggage that came with it. Mutant Massacre and Fall of the Mutants had the book become more and more depressing (which, to me, is different from being dark.) Then there was the "outback" era, which I simply found boring. That's when I called it quits.
There is some good stuff here and there (including some nice guest art), but there's a definite drop-off after #175 for me.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 19, 2017 9:55:38 GMT -5
I gave up UXM somewhere in the 230s. It had been running on empty for me for a while, but when you've been following characters for so long (since the Dark Phoenix saga), it's hard to give them up. I had never liked JRJR's art; I think it might have been okay when he first came on the book, but it got increasingly loose, sketchy and ugly. (And speaking of ugly--some of those costumes!) I was tired of hearing about Rachel's future and all the baggage that came with it. Mutant Massacre and Fall of the Mutants had the book become more and more depressing (which, to me, is different from being dark.) Then there was the "outback" era, which I simply found boring. That's when I called it quits. There is some good stuff here and there (including some nice guest art), but there's a definite drop-off after #175 for me. I never liked the "outback" era much, either, but it did make a fair bit of use of some of my favourite X-Men bad guys, though I suspect I'm the only one who actually cares about them: the Reavers, or more specifically, the three former Hellfire Commandos Angelo Macon, Murray Reese and Wade Cole. These three are possibly the most criminally underused characters with untapped story potential in the X-Men universe; they've been around for almost forty years since Wolverine carved them up in the original Hellfire Club storyline and then Donald Pierce subsequently rebuilt them as cyborgs, they actually have considerably more motivation than most for hating the X-Men, and they have been seen shown to be really quite competent at their job, but they were essentially forgotten about as soon as the Outback storyline was done, then pointlessly killed off, and later brought back without explanation only to be pointlessly killed off again. Some characters just get no respect...  |
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Post by badwolf on Mar 19, 2017 14:10:59 GMT -5
I remember one of them (Cole, I think) having a grudge against Wolverine for what he did to him, but I didn't know that they had become the Reavers.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 20, 2017 5:05:28 GMT -5
I remember one of them (Cole, I think) having a grudge against Wolverine for what he did to him, but I didn't know that they had become the Reavers. Which kind of underscores my point: they are characters with a history, but they've generally been treated as just background detail, so a lot of the readership-and, I suspect, every writer since Claremont departed-have simply never really registered any of that. This was a problem a lot of the time with Claremont: he created scores of characters, clearly knew himself exactly who they were and what motivated them and expected the readers to keep it all straight, too, but threw so much stuff in and then forgot the basic storytelling rule that readers actually need to be reminded of it once in awhile, so that half the time the details got lost. And of course, most of Marvel's current writers have a shaky grasp on the history of the characters, at best. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 20, 2017 9:18:21 GMT -5
I remember one of them (Cole, I think) having a grudge against Wolverine for what he did to him, but I didn't know that they had become the Reavers. They didn't start that way, but after the original Reavers were defeated (with only three remaining active) the group was reformed under the leadership of Donald Pierce, who brought Cole and Co. with him along Lady Deathstrike. The Hellfire cyborgs were supposed to have been killed by Wolverine during their first encounter. Their return is attributable to Jim Shooter's stance that heroes don't kill, dictating that Wolverine had never killed anybody. (Yes, I know...) They were therefore shown to "only" have been dismembered and rebuilt as cyborgs. As usual, Chris Claremont took saw that as an opportunity to add depth to these characters, showing them to be obsessed with Logan and what he had done to them. |
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 20, 2017 9:34:36 GMT -5
I gave up UXM somewhere in the 230s. It had been running on empty for me for a while, but when you've been following characters for so long (since the Dark Phoenix saga), it's hard to give them up. I had never liked JRJR's art; I think it might have been okay when he first came on the book, but it got increasingly loose, sketchy and ugly. (And speaking of ugly--some of those costumes!) I was tired of hearing about Rachel's future and all the baggage that came with it. Mutant Massacre and Fall of the Mutants had the book become more and more depressing (which, to me, is different from being dark.) Then there was the "outback" era, which I simply found boring. That's when I called it quits. There is some good stuff here and there (including some nice guest art), but there's a definite drop-off after #175 for me. You've highlighted some of the reasons I lost interest in the book (though as a manic completest I kept buying to keep my all-important streak going) and I agree that there's a drop-off after #175. |
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