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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 11:33:31 GMT -5
Crisis on Infinite Earths #7: Supergirl dies. I think I was maybe 12 when that issue came out and I had no idea that she would really be killed off (only to come back over and over again), but at that time the story packed quite a punch. She died very heroically and from then on as I read Crisis, I was really worried for my favorite heroes. The scene of Superman carrying her body, wrapped in the cape through space, broke my heart. Never really liked Supergirl, or even Barry Allen, but I was pretty broken up by the loss of Earth Two and the deaths of Robin and Huntress. That was a very heartbreaking scene as well. Huntress injured and Robin desperately trying to help her only for them both to be destroyed by shadow demons. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 13:53:23 GMT -5
Never really liked Supergirl, or even Barry Allen, but I was pretty broken up by the loss of Earth Two and the deaths of Robin and Huntress. That was a very heartbreaking scene as well. Huntress injured and Robin desperately trying to help her only for them both to be destroyed by shadow demons. As much as I understand what DC was trying to accomplish with COIE I still hated that fact that Earth 2 was gone. For a big event driven story it was pretty good. At the time I know DC had to change some things to stay in business. In hindsight I wish they would have done a few things differently. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 14:18:40 GMT -5
That was a very heartbreaking scene as well. Huntress injured and Robin desperately trying to help her only for them both to be destroyed by shadow demons. As much as I understand what DC was trying to accomplish with COIE I still hated that fact that Earth 2 was gone. For a big event driven story it was pretty good. At the time I know DC had to change some things to stay in business. In hindsight I wish they would have done a few things differently. I agree. I believe DC probably wishes they had worked some of the Crisis out differently as well. I remember one of the taglines "Nothing will ever be the same" and it hasn't with the constant reboots and subsequent Crisis events. Crisis was heartbreaking for me in how I enjoyed comics and the way the story affected some of my favorite characters. But, as you said DC had to do something to remain in business. |
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Post by MDG on Mar 15, 2017 16:25:05 GMT -5
As much as I understand what DC was trying to accomplish with COIE I still hated that fact that Earth 2 was gone. For a big event driven story it was pretty good. At the time I know DC had to change some things to stay in business. In hindsight I wish they would have done a few things differently. I agree. I believe DC probably wishes they had worked some of the Crisis out differently as well. I remember one of the taglines "Nothing will ever be the same" and it hasn't with the constant reboots and subsequent Crisis events. Crisis was heartbreaking for me in how I enjoyed comics and the way the story affected some of my favorite characters. But, as you said DC had to do something to remain in business. I don't think that DC was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, and even if it was, I don't see Crisis as the solution. The argument that "people didn't understand multiple earths" never really held water, when talking about comic fans and the fact that it seemed they were talking about "pocket universes" not long after. Losing Earth-2 meant throwing away something that really made DC unique. Maybe something had to be done, but the more I think of it, the more I feel there was probably a more elegant solution. Like the one Schwartz and Fox came up with to explain how there was a new Flash but the old Flash was just as real. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 17:26:06 GMT -5
I don't think that DC was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, and even if it was, I don't see Crisis as the solution. The argument that "people didn't understand multiple earths" never really held water, when talking about comic fans and the fact that it seemed they were talking about "pocket universes" not long after. Losing Earth-2 meant throwing away something that really made DC unique. Maybe something had to be done, but the more I think of it, the more I feel there was probably a more elegant solution. Like the one Schwartz and Fox came up with to explain how there was a new Flash but the old Flash was just as real. 1. I know DC wasn't in danger of bankruptcy but they had had some rocky years with the infamous DC Implosion. Marvel had become the top publisher. 10 yrs prior DC was the top publisher. DC felt they had to do something to boost sales. 2. I never bought the "multiple earths being confusing" either. DC was approaching their 50th year & wanted something BIG. Evidently the Editorial Staff thought Crisis was the way to go. It did get readers talking & reading. 3. Some things were cool. Barry's "death" gave us some really good stories with Wally as the Flash. The bad was the loss of Superboy & messed up the Legion for decades. And the mess it caused with any Earth Two related titles. 4. I agree DC lost some of it's charm that made it different from Marvel. IMO 3 things set DC apart from Marvel: Their use of fictional cities. Teen sidekicks. And the Multiple Earths. |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 15, 2017 17:42:02 GMT -5
Yeegads! Have we mentioned the death of Pam Hawley yet??
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Post by rom on Mar 15, 2017 20:14:32 GMT -5
When Bullseye murdered Elektra in Daredevil #181 - this is my single most favorite comic book of all time. Superb, and the scene when she crawled, dying (after Bullsye stabbed her) up to Matt's apartment was quite heart-breaking.
Sure, she came back to life later, but I don't care - as far as I'm concerned the character died in that issue.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 15, 2017 20:21:39 GMT -5
Yeegads! Have we mentioned the death of Pam Hawley yet?? Who? :$ |
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Post by Confessor on Mar 15, 2017 20:27:30 GMT -5
I can safely say I have never teared up at a comic book. Films or music, yes, but never a comic book (or even a book book, for that matter). I found Laika and the Astro City story "The Nearness of You" very moving, but I really wouldn't say they broke my heart.
What Joe Quesada did to Spider-Man in "One More Day" induced fearsome, white-knuckled rage in me, does that count?
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 15, 2017 21:45:02 GMT -5
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 15, 2017 21:48:14 GMT -5
I still have the Original Death of Captain Marvel and the impression I remember having is " what? He really died from Cancer? "
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 16, 2017 1:17:34 GMT -5
Yeegads! Have we mentioned the death of Pam Hawley yet?? Sgt. Fury #18. Probably the most important Silver Age Marvel story that I've never read. |
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 16, 2017 2:12:40 GMT -5
Yeegads! Have we mentioned the death of Pam Hawley yet?? Who? :$ Sgt. Fury's girlfriend. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 16, 2017 2:13:30 GMT -5
And yet we have forgotten the death of the first Howler, the first death of a major character in the Marvel Silver Age, from Sgt Fury #4. Junior Juniper-we barely got to know you and you've been waiting so patiently to be revived and sent to re-boot camp  Percy was his replacement  Rest well, Junior .jpg)  |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 16, 2017 4:19:09 GMT -5
And yet we have forgotten the death of the first Howler, the first death of a major character in the Marvel Silver Age, from Sgt Fury #4. It was a historically important moment, but Kirby and Lee moved on from it so quickly. It didn't resonate in the way that Pam Hawley's death was allowed to. So it broke my mind more than my heart, I guess. |
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