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Post by paulie on Aug 21, 2014 14:31:05 GMT -5
It would have been awesome!
Though as an autocrat I don't know if he would have wanted to use that weapon. He seems more a Cardinal Richelieu type who would prefer to keep the church (Marvel Comics) in front of his machinations.
Yeah, he would have just had Jim Owlsley post it. Good one! |
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Post by paulie on Aug 21, 2014 14:44:08 GMT -5
And a few creators said that he wasn't lying in the comments. I thought his blog was excellent. I was being sincere when I said it was great. Regardless of the truth behind what he was saying, it was a good look into his thought process. Shooter's a fascinating figure, in my opinion-- he broke into the industry literally as a kid working for an absolute tyrant of an editor, and everything about him seems shaped by the industry. I'd love a tell-all biography from Jim, then watch the fireworks once it's released. (It might just be enough to pull Barry Windsor-Smith out of the woodwork.) I know we've gotten bits and pieces here and there from the blog, some more recent interviews, and those incredibly bitter introductions and commentaries to the Valiant "First Impressions" HCs, but I'd like to see something like Shooter: The Untold Story by Sean Howe. I think if Shooter was promoted after doing the job he needed to do say around 1982-1983 then we probably wouldn't be talking about Jim Shooter: Evil Tyrant. But since Marvel had a flat structure there was nowhere for him to go. He wasn't going to replace Galton or Hobson. And so he lingered accumulating more and more power until it popped like a balloon in the spring of '87. But it sounds like things were pretty ugly there from Secret Wars II on... |
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Post by DubipR on Aug 21, 2014 16:56:09 GMT -5
Frank Miller.....
or late chess champion, Bobby Fischer?
That's some serious hard living Frank's had...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 18:01:26 GMT -5
If I looked like that, I'd be a bitter, hateful useless piece of crap, too.
Or maybe being a bitter, hateful useless piece of crap made him look like that.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Aug 21, 2014 19:14:59 GMT -5
If I looked like that, I'd be a bitter, hateful useless piece of crap, too. Or maybe being a bitter, hateful useless piece of crap made him look like that. Me: "Well, I think you're a bitter, hateful, useless piece of crap and I get a hundred letters a day telling me the same."
Dan: "Don't mince words! Give it to me straight!"
 
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Post by Nowhere Man on Aug 21, 2014 22:40:15 GMT -5
I watched a John Romita Jr. interview on CBR today, and taking into account that Romita Jr. is one year older than Miller, the physical contrast between the two is startling.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 23:10:03 GMT -5
Just checked that CBR interview. Yeesh! JRJR looks at least a decade younger.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Aug 22, 2014 0:43:23 GMT -5
Tell me about it. Romita also looks a bit ripped, so he obviously works out. To be 58 and in that great a shape is impressive. No wonder he won "Hunk of the Month" back in the 80's.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 1:24:07 GMT -5
Thanks for pointing out that Romita piece, it was a fun watch, and I am sold on Shmuggy and Bimbo the creator-owned thing he and Chaykin are cooking up. NYC, the 70s, crime book with those two guys driving it sounds like it will either be an amazingly fun ride or a train wreck you just have to see, but most likely one hell of a ride.
But yeah the juxtaposition of Romita at 58 and Miller in his mid 50s is pretty astounding.
-M
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Post by Nowhere Man on Aug 22, 2014 3:18:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm going to check out Shmuggy and Bimbo myself. I'm a fan of Chaykin and Romita Jr. so I have little doubt that'll be quality. It's interesting how the majority of the stuff I'm reading and interested in nowadays is creator-owned material. (Though I couldn't bring myself to read Kick Ass because of my strong dislike of Mark Millar...)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 8:41:26 GMT -5
(Though I couldn't bring myself to read Kick Ass because of my strong dislike of Mark Millar...) If Frank Miller's revolting visage is somehow a mirror of the leprous pit where one would ordinary expect to find a soul, Mark Millar these days presumably looks like something out of H.P. Lovecraft's worst nightmares. |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Aug 22, 2014 9:09:05 GMT -5
(Though I couldn't bring myself to read Kick Ass because of my strong dislike of Mark Millar...) If Frank Miller's revolting visage is somehow a mirror of the leprous pit where one would ordinary expect to find a soul, Mark Millar these days presumably looks like something out of H.P. Lovecraft's worst nightmares. I don't doubt that one iota. When Grant "Militant-Positivity" Morrison wants to run you over with a car, you have serious problems. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 22, 2014 18:09:22 GMT -5
Tell me about it. Romita also looks a bit ripped, so he obviously works out. To be 58 and in that great a shape is impressive. No wonder he won "Hunk of the Month" back in the 80's. JR Jr is kinda known as a workout freak. He pretty much works out, draws, and hangs out with his family. He is also barely aware of the internet. This is an aprocryphal story, but supposedly people at Marvel made him get an email address... just a decade ago! He would always either call in or show up in person with assignments until they asked him to get on the computer. (Again, I'm not sure if this is actually fact, or just hyperbole. It is an amusing story, though)
Another older creator who is absolutely jacked these days is Ted McKeever. He had a lot of substance abuse problems in late '80s and early '90s, and completely went the other way around the turn of the millenium. He looks like he could take most overmuscled superheroes.
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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 22, 2014 18:15:27 GMT -5
If Frank Miller's revolting visage is somehow a mirror of the leprous pit where one would ordinary expect to find a soul, Mark Millar these days presumably looks like something out of H.P. Lovecraft's worst nightmares. I don't doubt that one iota. When Grant "Militant-Positivity" Morrison wants to run you over with a car, you have serious problems. The positivity is a fairly new development in Grant's persona, mostly because his wife Kristian, who comes from a marketing background and is one of the most media savvy people in the industry, coached out the rough spots in his personality. In the '80s and '90s, Grant would go after everyone, which is why a lot of people in British comics can't stand him. When he and Millar were a team, they were really unbearable as Mark is worse than Grant. When they fell out after a bunch of personal and professional disagreements, it was like war had been declared. |
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Post by Rob Allen on Aug 22, 2014 19:07:02 GMT -5
Yikes. I'm five and a half weeks older than Frank Miller, and I look a hell of a lot healthier than he does.
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