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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 19:34:31 GMT -5
The way you sculpt a post of hatred into a work of art is a sight to behold, Dan. I salute you, sir! Back in the mid-'70s, a fan friend of mine (from HPL circles) who was a gifted poet wrote one that started out "If hate were water I could dig a well ..." Wish I could remember the rest of it. Andy was a very intelligent guy, but he made me look like Little Mary Sunshine. Living as he did in Paris, Texas, & working as a night watchman probably had something to do with that. He was the guy who introduced me to the fiction of Jim Thompson, I'm pretty sure, or at least made me curious about it; I don't recall reading The Killer Inside Me till about 8 years later, in grad school. (Looks from Google like he's probably still in the Texas Paris. I don't think that was the plan.)
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Post by gothos on Aug 24, 2014 12:50:54 GMT -5
For the record, I feel the flames of hatred start to ignite every time I hear a Burl Ives song. I'm not sure why. So I can relate to Dan's hatred of Miller. Can't remember who it was, exactly -- possibly Irwin Silber, who I think did Sing Out! magazine or something similar -- who remarked on how impressive it was that Ives was able to sing while crawling on his hands & knees to name names to the House Unamerican Activities Committee back in the '50s. (Of course, Jackie Robinson did the same in bowing & scraping in order to defame Paul Robeson to the committee. Those were terrible times, & quite a few people we think of as heroes apparently turned out to have moral cores made largely of reeking, rotting garbage. I really hate it when that happens.) Now those are IMO hate-worthy acts. Merely expousing ultra-conservative ideals, like Miller and Sim-- eh, not so much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 11:10:36 GMT -5
I don't normally pay attention to such things, since I never go to the movies anymore, but a thread on the Classic Horror Film Board indicates that the 2nd Sin City flick has bombed. With any luck, Miller will be going back to his cage; I'm sure Hannibal Lecter has been missing his buddy.
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Sept 2, 2014 19:51:08 GMT -5
I hate seeing Miller looking in poor health. He's my hero.
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Post by impulse on Sept 3, 2014 22:32:03 GMT -5
I don't normally pay attention to such things, since I never go to the movies anymore, but a thread on the Classic Horror Film Board indicates that the 2nd Sin City flick has bombed. With any luck, Miller will be going back to his cage; I'm sure Hannibal Lecter has been missing his buddy. I can't say I'm shocked. It's several years too late, and the advertising hasn't been nearly as pervasive as it probably needed to be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 22:34:28 GMT -5
Until people started saying they'd seen it I assumed Sin City 2 was still like a year away. Lack of pervasiveness indeed.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 4, 2014 15:32:32 GMT -5
When the original Sin City, and later 300, hit theaters, they were a BIG deal with my students. The other day, in reference to something I was teaching (I can't remember what), I asked how many of them had seen Sin City 2. Most had never even heard of it.
General rule of thumb: unless it's a horror film, most folks won't go see a sequel without having seen the original. And that was simply too long ago to be relevant to movie-going teens today.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 16:54:23 GMT -5
I think the sequel would have done better if we didn't wait a decade for it.
Also, a big part of what impressed me about the first movie is how true to the original content it was. A comic on the screen, panel for panel exact. That was awesome, but the trick's been done. Nobody cares when the trick is done again a decade later. Strictly on it's merits as a movie, removing my Sin City comic fandom from the equation, it was alright. I'd say about on par with Sucker Punch, which is visually appealing and worthy of showing off an HDTV (and sound system as well) but nobody is going to cry foul that it didn't win an Oscar. It's really like a very long music video, isn't it?
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Post by impulse on Sept 5, 2014 13:01:03 GMT -5
Yeah, they waited too long for it to be relevant, and not long enough for it to become retro/hipster appeal.
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