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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 10, 2017 6:19:23 GMT -5
I was reading in the Nightforce thread that cancelation for nu52 books were 18-20K. The top selling books these days are in the 80-100K range. How many comic fans are left in the world? How do you go about finding an approximate number of who still buys comics a regular basis?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 10, 2017 6:22:53 GMT -5
I was reading in the Nightforce thread that cancelation for nu52 books were 18-20K. The top selling books these days are in the 80-100K range. How many comic fans are left in the world? How do you go about finding an approximate number of who still buys comics a regular basis? I think people who are comic fans and people who buy comics on a regular basis are two different sets of people. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Apr 10, 2017 6:23:42 GMT -5
In the world? I'd say the majority do not buy Marvel and DC floppy books
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 10, 2017 6:27:34 GMT -5
I guess i'm asking , how does one go about finding a number ? Is it the Diamond issues distributed? Does Digital comics keep stats on how many issues are downloaded ? Convention attendance ? This and other forums are always decrying that comics are fading away, how does one find out who's still left out there?
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 10, 2017 7:11:54 GMT -5
I was reading in the Nightforce thread that cancelation for nu52 books were 18-20K. The top selling books these days are in the 80-100K range. How many comic fans are left in the world? How do you go about finding an approximate number of who still buys comics a regular basis? You can't. And you certainly can't do so for the entire world based on sales of comics from just one country, since a lot of country's have their own comics industries, most of which aren't totally reliant on US imports. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 10, 2017 7:21:49 GMT -5
I see, so how do we know that Comic book fandom is dying as is always reported?
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 10, 2017 7:28:57 GMT -5
I see, so how do we know that Comic book fandom is dying as is always reported? We don't. I personally don't believe it is. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 8:05:23 GMT -5
Personally, I'm not buying any floppies and digital comics anymore and right now; I'm buy Marvel Masterworks and DC Archives and pretty soon in a year from now - I have enough of them period. In my mind, I don't think Comic Book Fandom isn't dying at all and I feel that the whole Comic Book Industry is ever changing and matter of fact it is growing to more and more specialized comic books that shaping the industry itself. With that in mind, I see different fans out there and the industry itself is evolving into something else that going to another direction and that's why I just can't see fandom isn't going away at all. As long that we have Comic Books whether it is in floppy or digital format ... there's always fans that are willing to buy it and that's alone will keep it humming for decades to come. The key word is evolving and the comic book world must change to fit in the world that we live in.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 8:35:39 GMT -5
I asked the wise owl from the Tootsie Roll Pop ad....He said 3.
I asked Lawrence Welk....He said ah one ah two ah three...
So the answer must be....three.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 10, 2017 9:10:19 GMT -5
Just a reminder that fans and readers are not synonymous. There are plenty of fans out there. The question is how many readers remain.
Cei-U!
I summon the difference!
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 10, 2017 9:11:32 GMT -5
Right. I mean money spending , comic buying fans.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Apr 10, 2017 9:24:46 GMT -5
American comic buyers=(Avg copies of Batman *.8)*3
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Post by brutalis on Apr 10, 2017 9:44:53 GMT -5
There must be a few around. The shops here in Phoenix always have double the staff to support the busier Wednesday of shipping day. And there are still the "investors" who are purchasing up multiple copies of whatever is considered to be the "hot commodity" of the moment. All the shops i know of here have many shop subscribers (holding box) who still order comics with multiple covers and/or multiples of big selling titles.
One of the shops i frequent even had to post a notice that limits buyers to only purchasing 2 copies from the current weeks new shipment as they had several people that would buy up all the copies on the shelf of something new/hot without being the shops regular box holders who would pre-order.
The shop figured these folks were either from other shops who under-ordered or were looking to get more copies for marking up or the e-bay investors who are always looking at Wednesday orders/sales and buying up all the copies hoping to make fast mark up resales
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Post by MDG on Apr 10, 2017 9:52:00 GMT -5
20 years ago, I would've (and did) say comics fans are dying out, but now i don't think so. It's just that the term "comic fan" isn't the same thing that it was from the beginnings of organized fandom (let's say mid-late 60s) to the mid 90s or so.
During that time "Comics fan" meant the guy (97% of the time) who went to the comic shop once a week to buy (mainly) superhero books (i.e., floppies). Since then, the formats, publishers, retail outlets,conventions/shows/marketplaces, etc. have changed, along with the readership.
But I don't know who has a handle on this and what it means.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 10, 2017 10:07:29 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that nobody has a handle on it because the terms are so amorphous. What does "comic book fan" mean? If you go by Diamond figures you're limiting yourself severely. You're excluding all European and Asian fans. You're excluding digital and Amazon and book-store sales.
You can go to dozens of Facebook groups and and websites where crusty old guys trumpet that they are comic book fans, but haven't bought a book in decades.
What about Manga? That's just funnybooks by a different name. But you aren't getting most of those sales from Diamond.
As has been pointed out...comic book fans =/= buyers of comics at the local comical book store.
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