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Post by String on Jul 18, 2017 13:30:57 GMT -5
The tie-ins to this event that I've read so far have been very good. What I enjoy most is that while these titles are showing the broader effects of the Hydra takeover, their ongoing storylines aren't being derailed.
For the main X-titles, Kitty and her team are helping out NYC residents under the blackout while contending with the new and improved X-Cutioner killer. While the young X-Men meet up once more with Emma Frost, hidden ruler of New Tian, as the consequences and fallout from Inhumans vs. X-Men come back to the forefront.
Meanwhile over in ASM, being a global magnate has helped develop Peter into a more confident leader as he helps the super-forces fight back against the Hydra attack on DC while he must also stave off a very dangerous assault from the Superior Octopus whose allied himself with Hydra and intends to reclaim all parts and parcels of Parker Industries, a company he views as his own rightful creation.
Some thrilling stories but Marvel needs to realize that not everyone is reading the main event. Some footnotes would be appreciated for those who may be more curious about the broader events and where else to read of them. Like, how & why is the Darkforce dimension bleeding into NYC? And, how is StEvil Rogers able to heft Mjolnir?
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 4, 2017 4:54:51 GMT -5
if it was 'drawn' versus 'wacom-onanized', i might have gave a rat's -droppings.
as things stand, compared to 'artist does more than 8 issues in a row, artist DRAWS versus whores themselves out digitally', no interest.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 4, 2017 6:02:41 GMT -5
It's the first Marvel event I have a remote interest in since Civil War I, and it is much more interesting than it. It tackles topics such as how volatile an absolute concept evil is, and therfore ow our moral culture completely based on a good vs evil dynamic are missing something.
And it's the first Marvel book that made me think of Cioran, the philosopher.
If it wasn't for it, I wouldn't be reading any Marvel anymore since the end of Bachalo's run on Dr Strange.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 4, 2017 6:39:14 GMT -5
well, to be fair, leaving the 'art' aside, the series raises significant topics re 'perceived identity'.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 4, 2017 6:59:03 GMT -5
well, to be fair, leaving the 'art' aside, the series raises significant topics re 'perceived identity'. That as well. But indeed, putting aside how you feel about Cap and his legacy history, as on its own, this series is probably the first ever event at Marvel or DC to raise the bar that high on its philosophical implications, however successfull it is is or not in the end. But just the fact that it challenges the notion of absolute/pure evil - that lazy old concept - is productive enough in my book to grant its relevancy. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 4, 2017 7:03:37 GMT -5
well, to be fair, leaving the 'art' aside, the series raises significant topics re 'perceived identity'. That as well. But indeed, putting aside how you feel about Cap and his legacy history, as on its own, this series is probably the first ever event at Marvel or DC to raise the bar that high on its philosophical implications, however successfull it is is or not in the end. But just the fact that it challenges the notion of absolute/pure evil - that lazy old concept - is productive enough in my book to grant its relevancy. lol, 'how you feel about Cap and his legacy history,' has naught to do with it. i'm ex-freelancer; comics are a physically drawn/painted medium; my complaints are only about the utter dirth of artistic-acumen taking 'easy-way-outs' ala photoshop, which, in film, would never be applauded in non USA films/tv. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 4, 2017 7:11:36 GMT -5
That as well. But indeed, putting aside how you feel about Cap and his legacy history, as on its own, this series is probably the first ever event at Marvel or DC to raise the bar that high on its philosophical implications, however successfull it is is or not in the end. But just the fact that it challenges the notion of absolute/pure evil - that lazy old concept - is productive enough in my book to grant its relevancy. lol, 'how you feel about Cap and his legacy history,' has naught to do with it. i'm ex-freelancer; comics are a physically drawn/painted medium; my complaints are only about the utter dirth of artistic-acumen taking 'easy-way-outs' ala photoshop, which, in film, would never be applauded in non USA films/tv. The "you" in "however you feel" wasn't directed at you but at the fanboys who vocaly express online ow their beloved character has been raped by a "liberal" writer and his american hatred. I'm not ancient, but I have enough memory to remmeber buying of the racks those Mark Waid Cap runs that established him as a healthy doubter, I remember loving Robert Morales run about Guantanamo, and his Series with Kyle Baker. I even love the Kirby archives I have about him. I just don't see the point in writing about Captain America if you're not gonna be political or at least philosophical.  |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 4, 2017 7:17:28 GMT -5
lol, 'how you feel about Cap and his legacy history,' has naught to do with it. i'm ex-freelancer; comics are a physically drawn/painted medium; my complaints are only about the utter dirth of artistic-acumen taking 'easy-way-outs' ala photoshop, which, in film, would never be applauded in non USA films/tv. The "you" in "however you feel" wasn't directed at you but at the fanboys who vocaly express online ow their beloved character has been raped by a "liberal" writer and his american hatred. I'm not ancient, but I have enough memory to remmeber buying of the racks those Mark Waid Cap runs that established him as a healthy doubter, I remember loving Robert Morales run about Guantanamo, and his Series with Kyle Baker. I even love the Kirby archives I have about him. I just don't see the point in writing about Captain America if you're not gonna be political or at least philosophical. yes, i agree, particularly in looking at thngs 'long term' for any character, and see Cap as a philosophical character expressed through politics, so i have no problems with the concept of what is being done with him now, but have a large complaint with the cr@!!y execution of the concept. and the art. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 4, 2017 7:30:36 GMT -5
but have a large complaint with the cr@!!y execution of the concept. and the art. I'm constantly interested in Sorentino AND Yu - however disapointing they can eventually be in their various experiments - as I find htem some of the very few current superhero artists who present a unique feature of skills. However, I indeed find McNiven one of the most overrated artists of the bast couple of decades, with a lackluster sense of perspective, motionless action sequences and boring facial expressions. Acuna is interesting, but I wish he would take more chances with his style. Rod Reis I haven't yet formed an elaborate opinion on. It isn't bad, far from it, but still a little too "green", or naive for my taste, his good years a probably still in his future. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 6, 2017 8:45:46 GMT -5
If the cosmic cube 'made it happen', it 'didn't really happen'.
or anything else along 'altered reality' lines which will just be 'fixed' later so no-one is accountable for the forced-buggery-upon-readers which is 'fake-retcon'.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 2, 2017 12:07:18 GMT -5
If the cosmic cube 'made it happen', it 'didn't really happen'. or anything else along 'altered reality' lines which will just be 'fixed' later so no-one is accountable for the forced-buggery-upon-readers which is 'fake-retcon'. So, the results are in.... anyone surprised? |
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Post by Jesse on Sept 3, 2017 11:13:57 GMT -5
Read Secret Empire #9 and #10 over the weekend and now there are two Steve Rogers in the main Universe. I wonder if they will turn Hydra Cap (who is now locked up apparently) into the new Red Skull since the Red Skull is once again dead. Or bring back Red Skull by transferring his brain into Hydra Cap's body. I guess there's one more issue Secret Empire Omega #1 left. I don't remember a Secret Empire Alpha though I guess that was the FCBD #0 issue. |
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Post by String on Sept 3, 2017 16:15:12 GMT -5
So three major deaths have apparently been reversed and one villain summarily executed, that about right?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 8, 2017 6:59:08 GMT -5
So three major deaths have apparently been reversed and one villain summarily executed, that about right? Yup. I was wondering, did they ever resolve the Red Skull having Professor X's brain (like, did he lose it, or did they just start ignoring it) |
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Post by Jesse on Sept 8, 2017 12:00:06 GMT -5
I was wondering, did they ever resolve the Red Skull having Professor X's brain (like, did he lose it, or did they just start ignoring it) Red Skull having Chuck Xaviers brain was resolved underwhelmingly in the pages of Uncanny Avengers. After Red Skull was defeated I think Rogue cremated the brain but can't remember exactly. |
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