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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 28, 2017 8:10:33 GMT -5
So much talk about the Space Phantom and he only appeared in 2 stories in the first volume of the Avengers. This is what helps make him so annoying. So he copies one body sending that person to limbo and if he copies another body that person jumps to limbo and the body in limbo suddenly reappears. How is this guy a threat? Now a whole planet of body snatchers is awesome but we only ever see or use the one Phantom ever. A one act pony with potential but never ever utilized properly.... Yeah, but that first story was awesome. He actually was responsible for the Hulk leaving. It was a great piece of Stan Lee writing to create a story that reveals how the Avengers really weren't comfortable having the Hulk on the team. |
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Post by brutalis on Jun 28, 2017 8:17:21 GMT -5
This is what helps make him so annoying. So he copies one body sending that person to limbo and if he copies another body that person jumps to limbo and the body in limbo suddenly reappears. How is this guy a threat? Now a whole planet of body snatchers is awesome but we only ever see or use the one Phantom ever. A one act pony with potential but never ever utilized properly.... Yeah, but that first story was awesome. He actually was responsible for the Hulk leaving. It was a great piece of Stan Lee writing to create a story that reveals how the Avengers really weren't comfortable having the Hulk on the team. So essentially Space Phantom is nothing but a plot device. Oh the indignity indeed! |
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Post by james on Jun 28, 2017 8:26:57 GMT -5
Ive never liked Kang.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jun 28, 2017 8:30:54 GMT -5
Yeah, but that first story was awesome. He actually was responsible for the Hulk leaving. It was a great piece of Stan Lee writing to create a story that reveals how the Avengers really weren't comfortable having the Hulk on the team. So essentially Space Phantom is nothing but a plot device. Oh the indignity indeed! utterly with ya here. Space Phantom was - for me - in costume/powers/backstory/et al the most useless and banal antagonist in the Avenger's pantheon. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 28, 2017 8:59:44 GMT -5
Yeah, but that first story was awesome. He actually was responsible for the Hulk leaving. It was a great piece of Stan Lee writing to create a story that reveals how the Avengers really weren't comfortable having the Hulk on the team. So essentially Space Phantom is nothing but a plot device. Oh the indignity indeed! Like when he was retroactively used to erase the secret of Captain America's identity from the mind of everyone on the planet, for... reasons. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jun 28, 2017 9:06:56 GMT -5
This is what helps make him so annoying. So he copies one body sending that person to limbo and if he copies another body that person jumps to limbo and the body in limbo suddenly reappears. How is this guy a threat? Now a whole planet of body snatchers is awesome but we only ever see or use the one Phantom ever. A one act pony with potential but never ever utilized properly.... Yeah, but that first story was awesome. He actually was responsible for the Hulk leaving. It was a great piece of Stan Lee writing to create a story that reveals how the Avengers really weren't comfortable having the Hulk on the team. although i agree with brutalis, i also agree with Icctrombone on this aspect of narrative-development. |
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Post by String on Jun 28, 2017 14:31:21 GMT -5
So much talk about the Space Phantom and he only appeared in 2 stories in the first volume of the Avengers. This is what helps make him so annoying. So he copies one body sending that person to limbo and if he copies another body that person jumps to limbo and the body in limbo suddenly reappears. How is this guy a threat? Now a whole planet of body snatchers is awesome but we only ever see or use the one Phantom ever. A one act pony with potential but never ever utilized properly.... In Avengers Forever, Busiek does expand on the Phantom's origins and their true roles as shadow agents of Immortus throughout time. Like any talented writer should, Busiek doesn't alter or retcon any previous Phantom encounters, he just adds new layers and details to those encounters that shed new light upon this character(s). In fact, going by the 'secret history' revealed in this mini, the Avengers have seemingly encountered multiple Space Phantoms in disguise over the years and just never knew it. Couple that with how they were able to guide/twist the Avengers' actions per Immortus' designs and you get a newfound respect and fear for the real potential of this 'one-trick pony'. |
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Post by brutalis on Jun 28, 2017 14:42:16 GMT -5
Appreciate the reminder String of Avengers Forever and the Space Phantom(s) part of the story. Totally forgotten about that since i bought and read off the rack at the time! Need to dig deeply into my mountain of long boxes so i can read this again! Busiek always made for good Avenger's reading  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 28, 2017 14:45:58 GMT -5
I believe the first connection made between the Space Phantom and Immortus was made way back In Thor #281.  |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 28, 2017 16:04:07 GMT -5
I've only recently begun reading classic Avengers (am up to #126). At this point, the only recurring villain I just don't get (I wouldn't even say he annoys me) is The Grim Reaper. He just doesn't seem worth the attention. But he's got a scythe for a hand!!! We're all dying to know how he goes to the toilet!!! At least he has an advantage over Razorfist from MOKF. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 28, 2017 16:52:48 GMT -5
It's definitely Kang for me.. especially since Mark Waid seems to have an obsession with him. Ultron I feel like is practically a different character every time he's around, so he's ok.
Not a big fan of Thanos, either.. he's just too powerful.. it seems like most of his stories have to have a silly ending.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 28, 2017 16:58:00 GMT -5
So much talk about the Space Phantom and he only appeared in 2 stories in the first volume of the Avengers. Yes, but he was used in Avengers Forever to fix the Crossing, so he will always have my respect  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 28, 2017 17:20:36 GMT -5
So much talk about the Space Phantom and he only appeared in 2 stories in the first volume of the Avengers. Yes, but he was used in Avengers Forever to fix the Crossing, so he will always have my respect He's turning out to be quite the continuity-fixing villain! Any chance he could show that the Cyclops who recently dued was a space phantom??? |
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Post by fred2 on Jun 28, 2017 19:53:54 GMT -5
The swordsman.
Also, never liked scarlet witch nor quicksilver. I know they are not Avenger villains, but still do not like them.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jun 28, 2017 20:50:38 GMT -5
I love Kang, he's my favorite supervillain.
Y'all are crazy.
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