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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 19, 2017 3:28:34 GMT -5
To my mind it's the Buscema/Palmer stuff. The entirety of it. 255-285. those were lovely issues. sadly they were less than what could have been if they'd been created under the 'Marvel Method' as per the 1960's. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 19, 2017 6:11:33 GMT -5
I dislike everything I've heard about Shooter's 2nd run and the few issues I've read since have confirmed that distaste so I'll probably continue to avoid that period. You don't know what you're missing. Don't miss that period.Although , I will admit that he had subpar artists as opposed to many who had Buscema, Perez, Byrne to bolster their stories. |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 23, 2017 1:12:42 GMT -5
Wow. I don't think I've ever seen so many glaring missed deadlines in a row before, and Conway sure threw Englehart under the bus as they threw him off the title. Is there a story to this, or was Englehart just hopelessly tardy?
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 23, 2017 6:44:05 GMT -5
Wow. I don't think I've ever seen so many glaring missed deadlines in a row before, and Conway sure threw Englehart under the bus as they threw him off the title. Is there a story to this, or was Englehart just hopelessly tardy? It was a combination of factors, including Englehart's habitual lateness (supposedly due to his massive marijuana intake in those years) and Conway's decision as EIC to claim certain titles for himself (remember, he threw Gerber off Defenders as well). He held the position for all of two months, making more than a few enemies at Marvel along the way, before scurrying back to DC. I'm working from memory here, though, so you might want to check out Sean Howe's Secret History of Marvel Comics to corroborate the preceding. Cei-U! I summon the bullpen scuttlebutt! |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 23, 2017 8:30:00 GMT -5
Wow. I don't think I've ever seen so many glaring missed deadlines in a row before, and Conway sure threw Englehart under the bus as they threw him off the title. Is there a story to this, or was Englehart just hopelessly tardy? It was a combination of factors, including Englehart's habitual lateness (supposedly due to his massive marijuana intake in those years) and Conway's decision as EIC to claim certain titles for himself (remember, he threw Gerber off Defenders as well). He held the position for all of two months, making more than a few enemies at Marvel along the way, before scurrying back to DC. I'm working from memory here, though, so you might want to check out Sean Howe's Secret History of Marvel Comics to corroborate the preceding. Cei-U! I summon the bullpen scuttlebutt! There is a very good podcast call The Epic Marvel Podcast which showcases the new Epic collection releases by interviewing the creators who's work is featured in them. They go into this in these two podcasts, one interviewing Conway and one featuring Shooter. There are also two Englehart interviews about his FF and Silver Surfer runs. Shooter interviewConway interview |
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Post by shaxper on Jul 24, 2017 22:43:04 GMT -5
Finally got to the first Shooter script tonight, which was awesome enough in its own rite, but it also came with this little surprise on the bottom of the first page:  |
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